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On February 28 2013 05:29 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:27 Alaric wrote:On February 28 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not even lux's damage that is bs, its that stupid shield. It shields for insane amounts at just level one. Lux is Anivia levels of boring/safe though. I honestly think if they just changed her shield to only shield allies it would make her a lot better. all of a sudden she is a lot less tanky in lane and a lot easier to shut down with gap closing junglers.
isnt that what lux's shield does? shield allies? I wasn't aware that it shields anything else...
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On February 28 2013 05:29 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:26 Numy wrote:On February 28 2013 05:24 Lysanias wrote:
What is the reason to destroy a tower in 4min if you go passive farm again right after ? Some asians went and got early towers. Must be good right? I guess ... low econ strat = passive farming
Haha I was going for more sarcastic reply than anything. It's a classic case of seeing a team wreck the scene with a certain style and not fully understanding what they did. I remember the famous Loco vs CLG argument was around what to do after pushing tower fast and how Dlift didn't want to push down fast because they didn't have a plan of what to do next. Guess more teams don't have those same arguments
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On February 28 2013 05:31 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 28 2013 05:27 Alaric wrote:On February 28 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not even lux's damage that is bs, its that stupid shield. It shields for insane amounts at just level one. Lux is Anivia levels of boring/safe though. I honestly think if they just changed her shield to only shield allies it would make her a lot better. all of a sudden she is a lot less tanky in lane and a lot easier to shut down with gap closing junglers. isnt that what lux's shield does? shield allies? I wasn't aware that it shields anything else...
it shields herself too, he's talking about removing the self shield.
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Really not impressed by MRN's play now <.<
Oh by the way, AP Taric is pretty good solo top against AP Tryndamere even though you'll be called a troll.
dead stream
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this game is like watching paint dry.
I was excitied seeing the double early towers, but man the pace of the game got slower rather then getting faster.
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On February 28 2013 05:31 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:29 Lysanias wrote:On February 28 2013 05:26 Numy wrote:On February 28 2013 05:24 Lysanias wrote:
What is the reason to destroy a tower in 4min if you go passive farm again right after ? Some asians went and got early towers. Must be good right? I guess ... low econ strat = passive farming Haha I was going for more sarcastic reply than anything. It's a classic case of seeing a team wreck the scene with a certain style and not fully understanding what they did. I remember the famous Loco vs CLG argument was around what to do after pushing tower fast and how Dlift didn't want to push down fast because they didn't have a plan of what to do next. Guess more teams don't have those same arguments
Ye no worries i was being sarcastic in return  But thanks that makes more sense now, i don't follow NA scene to much so it's a bit strange to see this early tower and yet have nothing to follow this up.
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ooooo nyjacky so close. At least forced blue onto j4 instead of nid.
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On February 28 2013 05:30 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:26 Aando wrote:On February 28 2013 05:23 Shikyo wrote:On February 28 2013 05:19 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 28 2013 05:18 Shikyo wrote:On February 28 2013 05:15 Numy wrote:On February 28 2013 05:14 Shikyo wrote:
Btw AP Tryndamere also loses 1v1 vs anything so as long as the opponent can keep the lane in check it shouldn't really work.
No idea why it's suddenly working now, maybe I missed some patch notes but AP trynd has always dealt 0 dmg and been deadweight. You do realise it's fotm currently and got/getting nerfed in patch. Of course not, so why does it work now and not back when it was far better? it's probably more the case that it always worked but no one really caught on/people didnt realize its strength. Back when it was magic dmg and guinsoos rageblade destroyed turrets you indeed go ap and could spin through team -> run -> heal 1.5k -> spin through team -> run -> repeat and troll alot. I played a ton of AP tryndamere back then. It still had the downtime after every spin though and dealt no damage outside of it, critting for cooldown reduction also quite a pain. After it got changed to physical the spin has dealt 0 dmg. I guess you can still push really fast and stomp worse opponents as seems to be the case here, but I would be surprised to see Voyboy try this against a good team. You usually go Nashor + cd reduction boots now. That's about 5 sec cd on that spin without the crit reduction. Then I don't really get it, you deal no damage at all with that build. I actually tried that multiple times back when AP trynd was far better and came to that conclusion. I'd be really surprised if someone like Malphite couldn't just yawn against him in lane and then be 100 times more useful for the rest of the game. By the way I don't think I ever lost a lane with AP tryndamere so there's that of course and that still probably holds true.
That's true. I've only tried it a few times but it felt like it needed nashor, cd reduction boots and rabadon before you could do much.
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Twitch stream taking a picnic/offline/crash?
Edit: Lasted 10 seconds or so.
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On February 28 2013 05:30 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:26 Aando wrote:On February 28 2013 05:23 Shikyo wrote:On February 28 2013 05:19 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 28 2013 05:18 Shikyo wrote:On February 28 2013 05:15 Numy wrote:On February 28 2013 05:14 Shikyo wrote:
Btw AP Tryndamere also loses 1v1 vs anything so as long as the opponent can keep the lane in check it shouldn't really work.
No idea why it's suddenly working now, maybe I missed some patch notes but AP trynd has always dealt 0 dmg and been deadweight. You do realise it's fotm currently and got/getting nerfed in patch. Of course not, so why does it work now and not back when it was far better? it's probably more the case that it always worked but no one really caught on/people didnt realize its strength. Back when it was magic dmg and guinsoos rageblade destroyed turrets you indeed go ap and could spin through team -> run -> heal 1.5k -> spin through team -> run -> repeat and troll alot. I played a ton of AP tryndamere back then. It still had the downtime after every spin though and dealt no damage outside of it, critting for cooldown reduction also quite a pain. After it got changed to physical the spin has dealt 0 dmg. I guess you can still push really fast and stomp worse opponents as seems to be the case here, but I would be surprised to see Voyboy try this against a good team. You usually go Nashor + cd reduction boots now. That's about 5 sec cd on that spin without the crit reduction. Then I don't really get it, you deal no damage at all with that build. I actually tried that multiple times back when AP trynd was far better and came to that conclusion. I'd be really surprised if someone like Malphite couldn't just yawn against him in lane and then be 100 times more useful for the rest of the game. By the way I don't think I ever lost a lane with AP tryndamere so there's that of course and that still probably holds true.
I don't understand this train of comments. You willingly admit that you haven't played s3 Tryndamere, and now are confused why it works? When told some valid reasons(cdr being a huge one), you refuse it, and say it didn't work before, so it won't work now? There's a big jump from s2 -> s3. There are a lot more items for AP+CDR, and people are finally getting around to abusing it(also why there is a pretty big jump with Lux mid(athene's item started it). The champions don't make as much a difference as items do in LoL. This is why balancing through items is seen more often in LoL.
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AP TRYND GET DOUBLE. OM. AP TRYND. AP TRYND! YEEEEEEEEE AP TRYND. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Can't stop VOY BOY!
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So the stream died before the first teamfight of the game... ee han.
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Voyboy doesn't split push with AP trynd, he hard carries.
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Cool stream comes back with 7:2 and voy wirh 3 kills, dis gunna be gud ahah
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Well curse is too good to let this slip away.
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SO HAPPY TO SEE VOY USING AP TRYN IN TOURNEY AND OWNING
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Kobe makes a good point seems like heartbeat tunnelvisioned on botrk, nobody on curse actually building hp.
Voyboy casually 100 cs ahead of megazero
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EPT
