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On February 16 2013 11:30 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. There is no promotion of the matches - there is no stories being told outside of the game - there is no effective narrative flow that is created between weeks. There is no deeper analysis of games which means that there are no discussion surrounding the games - even Teamliquid can't give in depth analysis of each game, and without it the discussion goes nowhere. Like a big deal should be made about Patoy's KDA being #1 right now, and there should be a feature showing some of his great plays. That would be so simple to do, I'm amazed it isn't happening - in short RIOT is letting the casters have to do PbP and try to create sweeping narratives that sustain viewer interest
Even before doing anything like that, Riot needs to restructure how they promote the LCS from within the client page, main game page, main youtube channel, and various community sites.
Think about all the hype that happens before a IPL/IEM, I don't get why we aren't getting the same hype on Monday-Wednesday.
Riot is making some extremely fundamental mistakes with the LCS, that they need to remedy before viewership starts slipping even more.
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Holy hells Vi and Diana's gank on Lux one of those "blink and you'd of missed it kind of situations. Shame it didn't get out clean.
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Kiwi now actually stacking that tear with his q. He learns fast.
Edit: nvm, hes still lazy
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On February 16 2013 11:29 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. 200k easy for lower ranked teams maybe 300-350k for CLG/TSM/CRS matches.
Lol wat. I would fully understand if its soon down to 50k. The number of games is way too big for this number of concurrent viewers. The amount of viewer hours will still be huge.
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On February 16 2013 11:36 Volband wrote:Kiwi now actually stacking that tear with his q. He learns fast.
Wait wut? Singed poison toggles Q?
looks like it does.
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On February 16 2013 11:37 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:29 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. 200k easy for lower ranked teams maybe 300-350k for CLG/TSM/CRS matches. Lol wat. I would fully understand if its soon down to 50k. The number of games is way too big for this number of concurrent viewers. The amount of viewer hours will still be huge.
CLG vs TSM brought in those numbers last week, right?
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On February 16 2013 11:34 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:30 Amethyst21 wrote:On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. There is no promotion of the matches - there is no stories being told outside of the game - there is no effective narrative flow that is created between weeks. There is no deeper analysis of games which means that there are no discussion surrounding the games - even Teamliquid can't give in depth analysis of each game, and without it the discussion goes nowhere. Like a big deal should be made about Patoy's KDA being #1 right now, and there should be a feature showing some of his great plays. That would be so simple to do, I'm amazed it isn't happening - in short RIOT is letting the casters have to do PbP and try to create sweeping narratives that sustain viewer interest Even before doing anything like that, Riot needs to restructure how they promote the LCS from within the client page, main game page, main youtube channel, and various community sites. Think about all the hype that happens before a IPL/IEM, I don't get why we aren't getting the same hype on Monday-Wednesday. Riot is making some extremely fundamental mistakes with the LCS, that they need to remedy before viewership starts slipping even more.
Its completely appropriate to not overhype this, because the games just dont deserve this hype. The relevance of single games is rather low. Better save the hype for the important games that deserve it imo, so that you not water things down.
On February 16 2013 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:37 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:29 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. 200k easy for lower ranked teams maybe 300-350k for CLG/TSM/CRS matches. Lol wat. I would fully understand if its soon down to 50k. The number of games is way too big for this number of concurrent viewers. The amount of viewer hours will still be huge. CLG vs TSM brought in those numbers last week, right?
Yeah that was the first game. Which means its not a huge number of games, but just one. Afterwards people starte to realize how many games there actually are and how low the importance of a single game is.
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On February 16 2013 11:37 Chrispy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:36 Volband wrote:Kiwi now actually stacking that tear with his q. He learns fast. Wait wut? Singed poison toggles Q? looks like it does.
Yea it does
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How the fuck did Crumbz not die? O.o
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Holy, how did Crumbz survive? That was awesome, though. Shame Dignitas didn't get the turret.
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On February 16 2013 11:34 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 11:30 Amethyst21 wrote:On February 16 2013 11:25 ExoFun wrote:On February 16 2013 11:19 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 16 2013 11:15 Redox wrote:On February 16 2013 11:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
is it just me or is the viewership kinda low? Will probably still get lower over the season, as people realize there are A LOT of these games. Every team plays every team 4 times, a lot of repetition in there. I think Riot is failing pretty hard with promotion of the NA LCS. I think they can do a better job. What kind of viewership would you think they could have. There is no promotion of the matches - there is no stories being told outside of the game - there is no effective narrative flow that is created between weeks. There is no deeper analysis of games which means that there are no discussion surrounding the games - even Teamliquid can't give in depth analysis of each game, and without it the discussion goes nowhere. Like a big deal should be made about Patoy's KDA being #1 right now, and there should be a feature showing some of his great plays. That would be so simple to do, I'm amazed it isn't happening - in short RIOT is letting the casters have to do PbP and try to create sweeping narratives that sustain viewer interest Even before doing anything like that, Riot needs to restructure how they promote the LCS from within the client page, main game page, main youtube channel, and various community sites. Think about all the hype that happens before a IPL/IEM, I don't get why we aren't getting the same hype on Monday-Wednesday. Riot is making some extremely fundamental mistakes with the LCS, that they need to remedy before viewership starts slipping even more.
It's really effing hard to do that without burning our you're fanbase. It's easy to hype up something that is happening once a month - because people are starved for content. For someone to tune in week after week, you have to give them a reason. For most traditional sports leagues you watch because you have an allegiance to a team; this is harder to do in LoL because rarely people watch a TSM game but then not watch any of the other games (I'll admit this is a small fraction of people, certainly)
Creating narratives beyond the games makes it so someone says "I want to watch CoL vs. GGU because I see how CoL is growing as a team," etc. The discussion around sports is half the fun around following sports; and RIOT is not creating narratives worth following.or paying attention to.
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Dman, Patoy on alistar looking ban worthy.
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Let's talk about Rumble's creep score.
Edit: NEVERMIND, Elise...
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How is Nintendude so far behind? I understand Fat is kinda out of his depth here and fell behind, but 50 cs at 20 min on Elise is unacceptable
About the marketing - first thing Riot should have done was create a fantasy league function. People get so much more interested in matches if they always have a team to root for, even if it's just because one of "your" players is up.
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On February 16 2013 11:43 Volband wrote:
Let's talk about Rumble's creep score.
Edit: NEVERMIND, Elise...
Or lets talk about dontmashme positioning..
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On February 16 2013 11:45 DragoonTT wrote:
How is Nintendude so far behind? I understand Fat is kinda out of his depth here and fell behind, but 50 cs at 20 min on Elise is unacceptable
They are all derping around wandering. He has no time to farm up
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You know what I really like about GGU's team though? How much they could fuck people up in a line. That Lux laser plus Rumble ult hit 4 people from Dignitas in the dragon fight and actually did some good dmg. Too bad Rumble is so behind. I love seeing people in a line get destroyed for some reason haha.
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remember, this is dig, they can throw at any second; and this is GGU, they can counter throw at any second. this game could get messy.
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On February 16 2013 11:47 Slow Motion wrote:
You know what I really like about GGU's team though? How much they could fuck people up in a line. That Lux laser plus Rumble ult hit 4 people from Dignitas in the dragon fight and actually did some good dmg. Too bad Rumble is so behind. I love seeing people in a line get destroyed for some reason haha.
When it works, it just looks amazing. 
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