EPT[DH] DreamHack Winter 2012 Discussion - Page 20
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Dan HH
Romania9144 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Ah no she's 15. 360p ftw. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:36 Alaric wrote: Her plants deal around 160 damage per attack now. A void staff means she's gonna hurt, even as a support, whoever gets caught by them. Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
That zhonya on zyra did some real work though. | ||
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napo
Romania622 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote: Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please. wickd died for free (talking about the last one) | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote: Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please. Their team didnt have a ton of teamfight presence - everyone on fnatic except for ezreal was packing some huge aoe CC, compared to TF Irelia blitz mostly being single target, and cho's AOE CC's are nothing compared to Amumu and Zyra ultis. In several fights Amumu and Zyra ultis were CCing 4 or 5 people. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:37 Serelitz wrote: Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question. Magic Damage [Plants]: 26 + (6 × level) + (+ 20% AP) With such high base damage and support gold, penetration is a lot more effective than AP. That's why some go Haunting Guise on Zyra too: penetration to increase her damage, and HP for tankiness. | ||
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nxk
United Kingdom2291 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:36 shinarit wrote: Someone explain what clg screwed in the teamfights, please. Their teamcomp was inferior in straight up 5sv5 teamfights - TF and Blitz versus Amumu/Jax/Zyra/Diana. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:40 sylverfyre wrote: Their team didnt have a ton of teamfight presence - everyone on fnatic except for ezreal was packing some huge aoe CC, compared to TF Irelia blitz mostly being single target, and cho's AOE CC's are nothing compared to Amumu and Zyra ultis. In several fights Amumu and Zyra ultis were CCing 4 or 5 people. I do think squishies in the front line + AoE cc is pretty under-rated in this game (at least at a low level). Once you get past the mentality of "tanks and squishies" and start thinking "front line and back line" you can pull off some pretty cool stuff. Diana got to blow up Froggen every fight purely because everyone was moving around to dodge Zyra/Amumu ults. It's like the insane Morgana + Vayne combo. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:40 Alaric wrote: Magic Damage [Plants]: 26 + (6 × level) + (+ 20% AP) With such high base damage and support gold, penetration is a lot more effective than AP. That's why some go Haunting Guise on Zyra too: penetration to increase her damage, and HP for tankiness. Okay ty! I'll definitely think about it some more. Zyra support is still a bit underexplored for me and I really want to learn her. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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valonqar
12 Posts
On November 24 2012 08:37 Serelitz wrote: Plants scale with magic penetration but not AP then? Honest question. All magic damage scales with mpen. Lately top level ap mids have been moving away from classical dc build to more of utility build of zhonias, abyssal and other magic pen items. | ||
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