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ASHE picked,,,lets how this pan out.
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On November 05 2012 03:41 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:35 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
I often wonder how much more impact a support could have with a little bit of AP instead of just an aura...let's hope the new S3 items answer that question.
Also they fed CaptainJack, gg lol. And they don't have anyway to burst him down since they went double bruisers. Not a fan of that choice, seems Froggen let his ego get a bit in the way of this one. I realize the game is already over but you do realize that right after you typed this Froggen did burst down Ezreal. Maybe I underestimated Lee Sin burst, but I have to imagine it's easier with an AP champ. Don't get me wrong, I like the Lee Sin pick in the right circumstance, I just don't think this was it. There are a lot of AD mids you can run that can have the burst to kill ADs, even late game. They just don't do it as safe and they typically don't have the clearing power that APs do. Froggen AD mid would work a lot better if wickd could play some AP tops but he can't. It'd also work a lot better if yellowpete could win bot lane. Zz1tai has been running AD mid for a long ass time and made it work against strong AP mids. Seeing Froggen's first LAN where he attempts to do it and dismissing it as him having an ego and it being bad is silly. But at least you recognize that there are situations where it works. I'd agree that against that team comp it was probably a bad call.
Yeah, that wording was really loaded on my part. I just wonder if it was like yesterday when the team wanted to play something else and he was like "no, I'm comfortable with Lee." In that situation it was when he crushed Regi, but it can swing both ways. On the Sheen Proc Podcast Froggen actually said he's wanted to run Lee Sin mid for a long time, but his team just wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah, if Wick'd would just learn Vlad or Rumble it would be much more reasonable for him to run Lee mid more often.
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Azubu better be using Amethyst Ashe skin.
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This caster on the left is very attractive
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Ashe doesn't suit captjack's strengths. Ashe doesn't have a skill that lets him move fast across terrain or block CC.
Unless captjack can hit arrows like a god.
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On November 05 2012 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:41 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:35 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
I often wonder how much more impact a support could have with a little bit of AP instead of just an aura...let's hope the new S3 items answer that question.
Also they fed CaptainJack, gg lol. And they don't have anyway to burst him down since they went double bruisers. Not a fan of that choice, seems Froggen let his ego get a bit in the way of this one. I realize the game is already over but you do realize that right after you typed this Froggen did burst down Ezreal. Maybe I underestimated Lee Sin burst, but I have to imagine it's easier with an AP champ. Don't get me wrong, I like the Lee Sin pick in the right circumstance, I just don't think this was it. There are a lot of AD mids you can run that can have the burst to kill ADs, even late game. They just don't do it as safe and they typically don't have the clearing power that APs do. Froggen AD mid would work a lot better if wickd could play some AP tops but he can't. It'd also work a lot better if yellowpete could win bot lane. Zz1tai has been running AD mid for a long ass time and made it work against strong AP mids. Seeing Froggen's first LAN where he attempts to do it and dismissing it as him having an ego and it being bad is silly. But at least you recognize that there are situations where it works. I'd agree that against that team comp it was probably a bad call. Yeah, that wording was really loaded on my part. I just wonder if it was like yesterday when the team wanted to play something else and he was like "no, I'm comfortable with Lee." In that situation it was when he crushed Regi, but it can swing both ways. On the Sheen Proc Podcast Froggen actually said he's wanted to run Lee Sin mid for a long time, but his team just wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah, if Wick'd would just learn Vlad or Rumble it would be much more reasonable for him to run Lee mid more often.
Wickd being unable to play any AP severely restricts CLG.eu's ability to run certain strats. Because Wickd needs to be a farmed bruiser, they can't do Double AP stuff for instance and you can generally pick around Wickd since it's farily predictable what he's going to play.
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I was cheering for CLG.EU, but Blaze won me over with their Ashe pick. Go go go Ashe penta kill OP!!!
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On November 05 2012 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:41 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:35 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
I often wonder how much more impact a support could have with a little bit of AP instead of just an aura...let's hope the new S3 items answer that question.
Also they fed CaptainJack, gg lol. And they don't have anyway to burst him down since they went double bruisers. Not a fan of that choice, seems Froggen let his ego get a bit in the way of this one. I realize the game is already over but you do realize that right after you typed this Froggen did burst down Ezreal. Maybe I underestimated Lee Sin burst, but I have to imagine it's easier with an AP champ. Don't get me wrong, I like the Lee Sin pick in the right circumstance, I just don't think this was it. There are a lot of AD mids you can run that can have the burst to kill ADs, even late game. They just don't do it as safe and they typically don't have the clearing power that APs do. Froggen AD mid would work a lot better if wickd could play some AP tops but he can't. It'd also work a lot better if yellowpete could win bot lane. Zz1tai has been running AD mid for a long ass time and made it work against strong AP mids. Seeing Froggen's first LAN where he attempts to do it and dismissing it as him having an ego and it being bad is silly. But at least you recognize that there are situations where it works. I'd agree that against that team comp it was probably a bad call. Yeah, that wording was really loaded on my part. I just wonder if it was like yesterday when the team wanted to play something else and he was like "no, I'm comfortable with Lee." In that situation it was when he crushed Regi, but it can swing both ways. On the Sheen Proc Podcast Froggen actually said he's wanted to run Lee Sin mid for a long time, but his team just wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah, if Wick'd would just learn Vlad or Rumble it would be much more reasonable for him to run Lee mid more often.
It's a team wide problem to be honest. Also as others pointed out Froggen sat mid a lot with Lee Sin. If you pick Lee Sin mid or Jarvan mid or Wukong mid you need to exert map pressure too. Froggen's pretty bad at that.
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On November 05 2012 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:41 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:35 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
I often wonder how much more impact a support could have with a little bit of AP instead of just an aura...let's hope the new S3 items answer that question.
Also they fed CaptainJack, gg lol. And they don't have anyway to burst him down since they went double bruisers. Not a fan of that choice, seems Froggen let his ego get a bit in the way of this one. I realize the game is already over but you do realize that right after you typed this Froggen did burst down Ezreal. Maybe I underestimated Lee Sin burst, but I have to imagine it's easier with an AP champ. Don't get me wrong, I like the Lee Sin pick in the right circumstance, I just don't think this was it. There are a lot of AD mids you can run that can have the burst to kill ADs, even late game. They just don't do it as safe and they typically don't have the clearing power that APs do. Froggen AD mid would work a lot better if wickd could play some AP tops but he can't. It'd also work a lot better if yellowpete could win bot lane. Zz1tai has been running AD mid for a long ass time and made it work against strong AP mids. Seeing Froggen's first LAN where he attempts to do it and dismissing it as him having an ego and it being bad is silly. But at least you recognize that there are situations where it works. I'd agree that against that team comp it was probably a bad call. Yeah, that wording was really loaded on my part. I just wonder if it was like yesterday when the team wanted to play something else and he was like "no, I'm comfortable with Lee." In that situation it was when he crushed Regi, but it can swing both ways. On the Sheen Proc Podcast Froggen actually said he's wanted to run Lee Sin mid for a long time, but his team just wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah, if Wick'd would just learn Vlad or Rumble it would be much more reasonable for him to run Lee mid more often.
Lee would still have much worse late game than other bruisers like Irelia, Jax or whatever Wickd would run top.
But as Wickd does not play Vlad, it makes even less sense. Its not like froggen cant play Ap mid lol.
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Cpt Jack wants to surprise everyone with his innovative new Frozen Mallet Ashe build
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On November 05 2012 03:48 scarper65 wrote:
This caster on the left is very attractive
it's just an illusion he casts on us with his grand mother's sorcerer's ring
I agree though that Montecristo has very good skin lol
Froggen on Ahri yay
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On November 05 2012 03:43 Ziken wrote:
Wow, first time ive seen vayne banned in a pro game in a longggggggg time, shows how much respect they have for cpt jack and how good he is.
I think it's a pretty big tell that CLG wanted to take Kog
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On November 05 2012 03:10 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:03 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I don't buy the idea that you can't become good without any solid scrim partners, I think it's bullshit because that's just not what practice in other established sports looks like - at all. If you look at Messi for example, the guy runs, then passes, then runs, then he forms a triangle with his friends and runs around while passing and then he finishes the day with a mock 5v5 scrim where they use minigoals. Messi does not scrim real madrid 10 hours a day, infact, nobody on his team scrims real madrid 10 hours a day and yet, he's arguably the best player in the world on one of the best teams in the world in a sport that's so much more established and figured out than an infantile LoL where supposedly top-notch pros can't even flash and last hit properly.
There's also no reason why NA people can't play teams in Europe and Asian. In fact I think NA is the best region when it comes to cross continent play as they get I think rough 150-200 ping going both ways. Depending which side of NA you are on.
I was trying to imply that instead of scrimming, they should come up with repeatable excercises that aim to improve a specific set of skills. A LoL equivalent of this. I think the purpose of a scrim should be to solidify what you've learned in these excercises.
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What is Kog gonna do against DFG Diana and Olaf... I can't see this working too well for CLG.eu.
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On November 05 2012 03:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:10 Numy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:03 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I don't buy the idea that you can't become good without any solid scrim partners, I think it's bullshit because that's just not what practice in other established sports looks like - at all. If you look at Messi for example, the guy runs, then passes, then runs, then he forms a triangle with his friends and runs around while passing and then he finishes the day with a mock 5v5 scrim where they use minigoals. Messi does not scrim real madrid 10 hours a day, infact, nobody on his team scrims real madrid 10 hours a day and yet, he's arguably the best player in the world on one of the best teams in the world in a sport that's so much more established and figured out than an infantile LoL where supposedly top-notch pros can't even flash and last hit properly.
There's also no reason why NA people can't play teams in Europe and Asian. In fact I think NA is the best region when it comes to cross continent play as they get I think rough 150-200 ping going both ways. Depending which side of NA you are on. I was trying to imply that instead of scrimming, they should come up with repeatable excercises that aim to improve a specific set of skills. A LoL equivalent of this. I think the purpose of a scrim should be to solidify what you've learned in these excercises.
I think what you're suggesting is 1v1 lane practise. And it's a fair suggestion given some of the poor 1v1 laning demonstrated here.
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On November 05 2012 03:49 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:41 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:37 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 05 2012 03:35 overt wrote:On November 05 2012 03:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
I often wonder how much more impact a support could have with a little bit of AP instead of just an aura...let's hope the new S3 items answer that question.
Also they fed CaptainJack, gg lol. And they don't have anyway to burst him down since they went double bruisers. Not a fan of that choice, seems Froggen let his ego get a bit in the way of this one. I realize the game is already over but you do realize that right after you typed this Froggen did burst down Ezreal. Maybe I underestimated Lee Sin burst, but I have to imagine it's easier with an AP champ. Don't get me wrong, I like the Lee Sin pick in the right circumstance, I just don't think this was it. There are a lot of AD mids you can run that can have the burst to kill ADs, even late game. They just don't do it as safe and they typically don't have the clearing power that APs do. Froggen AD mid would work a lot better if wickd could play some AP tops but he can't. It'd also work a lot better if yellowpete could win bot lane. Zz1tai has been running AD mid for a long ass time and made it work against strong AP mids. Seeing Froggen's first LAN where he attempts to do it and dismissing it as him having an ego and it being bad is silly. But at least you recognize that there are situations where it works. I'd agree that against that team comp it was probably a bad call. Yeah, that wording was really loaded on my part. I just wonder if it was like yesterday when the team wanted to play something else and he was like "no, I'm comfortable with Lee." In that situation it was when he crushed Regi, but it can swing both ways. On the Sheen Proc Podcast Froggen actually said he's wanted to run Lee Sin mid for a long time, but his team just wasn't comfortable with it. Yeah, if Wick'd would just learn Vlad or Rumble it would be much more reasonable for him to run Lee mid more often. It's a team wide problem to be honest. Also as others pointed out Froggen sat mid a lot with Lee Sin. If you pick Lee Sin mid or Jarvan mid or Wukong mid you need to exert map pressure too. Froggen's pretty bad at that.
froggen left lane a number of times, but blaze had much stronger ward coverage in river for most of the game.
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Nunu + Ashe. Hm. Anyone better than me want to suggest how this lane plays out? I am not familiar with it. First impression is that it's not bad since Ashe has highest base AS for AD champions which makes all forms of AS boosts even better (since it scales off base AS).
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