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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
October 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#12561
On October 11 2012 09:15 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 09:12 StUfF wrote:
On October 11 2012 08:59 Artok wrote:
On October 11 2012 08:57 TheKefka wrote:
TSM needs to shut up about this because a lvl 1 fight does not decide the game outright.
I cheered for TSM to win but they lost because they played like shit,nothing more nothing less.

It doesn't decide neither the game, which regame would suggest, nor the outcome of the whole series, which dq would suggest, I don't even know why is tsm so popular with such silly whiny players ;O


I've watched plenty of games where level 1 fights steamroll the rest of the game. In the end there's no way ANYONE knows how the game would have went if they didn't look. Could TSM have won that game? YES. That's the point of a regame, no-one knows how the game would have went so you start a whole new game, that is the only fair way to do it.

For the DQ. DQ is for cheating. If cheating is only a monetary fine, this communicates with everyone that cheating is OK. All you need to do is pay some money for it. This should never be the case. When $1 million dollars is on the line, and cheating can give you an advantage, why wouldn't you cheat for 20% of that? That 20% would only get deducted if you get caught. This is a clear message to competitors they should try to cheat. Massive advantages if they don't get caught, monetary deduction if they get caught. There's no downside.


They could have killed support, not the game winner at all. If they would want to dq cheaters, would have to dq tsm, azf, we etc., not many team would be there to play, because dq'ing only the teams that won would be beyond retarded. There are way too many examples in real sports where someone cheated (faked penalty etc), where the player gets fined or forbidden to play, team doesn't get dq'd ever, it's just sheer stupid dreams of tsm fanboys.


Like I said. There's no way no one can tell what that support kill could have evolved to. How it would have affected the mentality of the players, how it would have caused each team to play differently, because we don't know the only fair way to determine it is to play again.

You are helping me prove my point. When there are incidents with minor penalties they keep happening, dangerous play/flopping etc. when players get minor fines/no penalty these incidents keep happening. You conveniently ignore major infractions, which have much worse penalties. Teams have had championships revoked, players have been banned from sports permanently, a team had all their ladder points set to 0 because they cheating that season. Guess what, these events are rare because the punishments are not worth the risk.

Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
October 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#12562
CLG looking alive, let's take this to late game and win it guys!
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
October 11 2012 00:34 GMT
#12563
hot damn that leona play
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 11 2012 00:34 GMT
#12564
dat leona
RIP KT.Violet
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 11 2012 00:34 GMT
#12565
On October 11 2012 09:32 freakeh wrote:
Deman says "On the back of this/that" all the time, I watched a video highlighting it and now I notice it all the time T_T

Right after I read this he said it 3 times in a row
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 11 2012 00:35 GMT
#12566
well trading kog for leona is a good trade for WE
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
October 11 2012 00:36 GMT
#12567
man, fzzf just doesn't miss zenith ever
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
October 11 2012 00:36 GMT
#12568
God how many times is CLG going to let WE dive them? All day erry day.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 11 2012 00:36 GMT
#12569
Man WE really loves setting up tower ganks they'll wait for ages to do it but it works.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
.Riot
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines242 Posts
October 11 2012 00:36 GMT
#12570
asdfghjkl these dives mang
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
October 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#12571
On October 11 2012 09:32 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 09:15 Artok wrote:
On October 11 2012 09:12 StUfF wrote:
On October 11 2012 08:59 Artok wrote:
On October 11 2012 08:57 TheKefka wrote:
TSM needs to shut up about this because a lvl 1 fight does not decide the game outright.
I cheered for TSM to win but they lost because they played like shit,nothing more nothing less.

It doesn't decide neither the game, which regame would suggest, nor the outcome of the whole series, which dq would suggest, I don't even know why is tsm so popular with such silly whiny players ;O


I've watched plenty of games where level 1 fights steamroll the rest of the game. In the end there's no way ANYONE knows how the game would have went if they didn't look. Could TSM have won that game? YES. That's the point of a regame, no-one knows how the game would have went so you start a whole new game, that is the only fair way to do it.

For the DQ. DQ is for cheating. If cheating is only a monetary fine, this communicates with everyone that cheating is OK. All you need to do is pay some money for it. This should never be the case. When $1 million dollars is on the line, and cheating can give you an advantage, why wouldn't you cheat for 20% of that? That 20% would only get deducted if you get caught. This is a clear message to competitors they should try to cheat. Massive advantages if they don't get caught, monetary deduction if they get caught. There's no downside.


They could have killed support, not the game winner at all. If they would want to dq cheaters, would have to dq tsm, azf, we etc., not many team would be there to play, because dq'ing only the teams that won would be beyond retarded. There are way too many examples in real sports where someone cheated (faked penalty etc), where the player gets fined or forbidden to play, team doesn't get dq'd ever, it's just sheer stupid dreams of tsm fanboys.


Like I said. There's no way no one can tell what that support kill could have evolved to. How it would have affected the mentality of the players, how it would have caused each team to play differently, because we don't know the only fair way to determine it is to play again.

You are helping me prove my point. When there are incidents with minor penalties they keep happening, dangerous play/flopping etc. when players get minor fines/no penalty these incidents keep happening. You conveniently ignore major infractions, which have much worse penalties. Teams have had championships revoked, players have been banned from sports permanently, a team had all their ladder points set to 0 because they cheating that season. Guess what, these events are rare because the punishments are not worth the risk.


So what is your solution? Dq every team that cheated and turn world finals into an even bigger fiasco?
Chun-li since ST
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#12572
karthus ult always disgusting
RIP KT.Violet
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#12573
sick turn around on that gank bot
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
October 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#12574
sound gone?
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#12575
Odee in the background shot on the ogn stream?
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 11 2012 00:38 GMT
#12576
Karthus, noob R
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 11 2012 00:38 GMT
#12577
Imo looking better for CLG now. They went quite nicely through the most dangerous phase.
Off-season = best season
zen22
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States152 Posts
October 11 2012 00:38 GMT
#12578
someone needs to tell that truck driver in the backround to learn to fucking back up. my god he has had that going like the whole game lol
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#12579
sigh the commentary is biased to clg eu -_-

the lane phase was a 2k difference... beeeeeg comeback
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#12580
CLG 5 kills, 6 assists, 1 tower
WE 7 kills, 14 assists, 2 towers

How is CLG so close in money? That one dragon isn't that much and the farm is not that huge either...
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