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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.
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On October 07 2012 07:56 Azarkon wrote:
Isn't it the case that in RTS games - including these 'MOBA' games - the player / team that knows how to play the late game better is considered the better player / team overall?
I wouldn't buy that for LoL. Based on your team comps, you can either try to snowball early-game, have a strong midgame team, or just try to stall to get a farmed late game comp. I don't think that playing the last way necessarily makes you the best team overall (though CLG.eu's teamfight is obviously very strong in lategame). No way to decide who the best team is other than who wins.
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First yellowpete e'ing into enemy team in game 1, now xiao in game 2. The curse of the pub ezreal too strong tonight.
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On October 07 2012 07:58 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:57 Vaporized wrote:On October 07 2012 07:56 wei2coolman wrote:On October 07 2012 07:54 nosliw wrote:
The EZ e into jayce is definitely a mistake. That game made me pretty pissed. Nocturne has double Skarner farm, with way more fucking kills, more useless than no-farmed skarner. EZ beyond fucking farmed, gets 2 shot by Jayce that got shat on by Shen all game. lol those rose-colored glasses. if you actually paid attention jayce was within 10 cs of shen for nearly the entire game. Shen had at least 2 kills on Jayce and was bodying him 1v1 almost all game long. You can't just look at cs.
yeah and if you watched jayce vs shen in that game there came a point where jayce could 1v1 shen and that was when the game started falling apart for WE.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this start at 3EST? 4 hours for two matches?
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:54 allen_ami wrote:
i rly dont understand riot's decision about restarting 2nd game without any advantage for WE considering they were leading by a large margin in that game, and they already were able to reconnect to the original game 2
@LoLeSports(1/4) Recap on the game restart: internet went out at the entire LA Live venue. (2/4) As a result of the issues, a player was killed while unable to respond. Per tournament rules, the game was required to be restarted.
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On October 07 2012 07:56 TheKefka wrote:
Lol so many people arguing in here,I love it.
It's like poking at roflster fans when team gets wiped after flash blows his load.
I miss that.
well, comparing both power outage situations/threads, it's like old ladies tea time we have here.
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On October 07 2012 07:59 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:57 daSilvaz wrote:
And ppl qqing bout exreal's E, ROFL 5v4 with baron and 2 inibs down...what a diference it would have made what ? we probably didn't see the same game. clg didnt have baron at that time and if ezreal lived in this team fight clg wouldve clearly been aced
The way ppl were talking seemed they were refering to the last tf after noct got caught.
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On October 07 2012 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:54 CatharsisUT wrote:On October 07 2012 07:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 07:48 CatharsisUT wrote:
That was about the best way for clg to win given the Regame. Even bigger lead than the first try. How can we complain when they got even further ahead this game? please dont be retarded Don't be a dick. No need to get so angry. I didn't dc the internet. to think the lead was bigger this game just by looking at the number 9 and 1 and 5k is dumb you dont take into account team fight composition momentum presence etc their lead was much bigger in the dc'ed game
That's true but it was still a respectful comeback and it shows that that original 2nd game was not yet lost. I know people bring this up all the time but think of the CLG.eu vs M5 game. Yes lategame comps and whatnot but you have to realize that it would be an even worse call if they gave WE the 2nd game.
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Why does it always take so long to start the next game o.O And it gives the casters way too much time to talk.
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On October 07 2012 07:59 Schwopzi wrote:
First yellowpete e'ing into enemy team in game 1, now xiao in game 2. The curse of the pub ezreal too strong tonight.
Lol good observation. Ezrael loosing all games this tourney.
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United States37500 Posts
On October 07 2012 07:57 Frolossus wrote:
watching clg.eu play reminds me heavily of the clg.na 12 months ago
Methodical in different ways. CLGna poke comp at their best was amazing (for me) to watch. Frustrating wouldn't even begin to describe how you'd play it.
CLGeu is much more fluid. I like how they and M5 are so cohesive as a unit. Froggen may get all the praise but CLG.eu at its best has three carries running around and everyone making plays.
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United States47024 Posts
People are overstating CLG.EU's "ability to play lategame" because it can't be ignored that their teamcomp allowed for it.
Games 1 and original game 2 they didn't have teamcomps that would have allowed them to turtle like this toward a superior lategame teamfight.
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On October 07 2012 07:59 Vaporized wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:58 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 07 2012 07:57 Vaporized wrote:On October 07 2012 07:56 wei2coolman wrote:On October 07 2012 07:54 nosliw wrote:
The EZ e into jayce is definitely a mistake. That game made me pretty pissed. Nocturne has double Skarner farm, with way more fucking kills, more useless than no-farmed skarner. EZ beyond fucking farmed, gets 2 shot by Jayce that got shat on by Shen all game. lol those rose-colored glasses. if you actually paid attention jayce was within 10 cs of shen for nearly the entire game. Shen had at least 2 kills on Jayce and was bodying him 1v1 almost all game long. You can't just look at cs. yeah and if you watched jayce vs shen in that game there came a point where jayce could 1v1 shen and that was when the game started falling apart for WE.
That was when Jayce's powercurve passed shen. that's obvious, that's what sorta bugg'd me. Jayce's laning phase is the best in solo lane, then he gets that kind of lategame power as well.. It really disgusted me.
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holy fuck my stream is just shitty now
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On October 07 2012 07:53 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:52 henrikyo wrote:On October 07 2012 07:51 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 07 2012 07:49 henrikyo wrote:On October 07 2012 07:48 Goshawk. wrote:On October 07 2012 07:47 Ota Solgryn wrote:
How can you not love this team, never give up, and look at that reaction i nthat fight. Lol, really makes me smile. because there playstyle is so boring to watch qq more. Its the same stuff american teams do, but clg dont give up, and dont qq each other. Not really. CLG.eu stall is on it's own tier of turtling play. Nothing on NA comes even close Again. qq. how the fuck is that qq?
Just ignore him - it honestly seems like he's on a quest to make people in this LR thread mad.
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On October 07 2012 07:59 Vaporized wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:58 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 07 2012 07:57 Vaporized wrote:On October 07 2012 07:56 wei2coolman wrote:On October 07 2012 07:54 nosliw wrote:
The EZ e into jayce is definitely a mistake. That game made me pretty pissed. Nocturne has double Skarner farm, with way more fucking kills, more useless than no-farmed skarner. EZ beyond fucking farmed, gets 2 shot by Jayce that got shat on by Shen all game. lol those rose-colored glasses. if you actually paid attention jayce was within 10 cs of shen for nearly the entire game. Shen had at least 2 kills on Jayce and was bodying him 1v1 almost all game long. You can't just look at cs. yeah and if you watched jayce vs shen in that game there came a point where jayce could 1v1 shen and that was when the game started falling apart for WE.
Game started falling apart cause WE couldn't push and started to lose focus.
Jayce could 1v1 Shen by virtue of how offensive items/abilities scale relative to defensive items/abilities. It's no secret that offensive items far outscale defensive items. CLG was able to stall to the point where it basically didn't matter how strong Shen Noc were because of how items and abilities scale in this game.
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If power goes out again aram plox
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It doesn't matter who wins/won the lane at 10-15 minutes into the game if the game goes 50 minutes and everyone has full build. That's why this strategy is so good. If you believe in your ability to team fight and position the best in the late game, and are good enough at getting to that point consistently without getting too far behind in towers/barons/etc., you can win games after having lost your lane(s) because all of those early game advantages don't matter at all at that point.
EDIT: And of course, this all depends on which champions you pick in conjunction with each other to allow for this superiority lategame. Picking champs like Karthus and Jayce that scale amazingly well with their damage/utility into lategame are obvious picks in this type of strategy.
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5 hours to finish one bo3. This is pretty impressive, imo.
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On October 07 2012 08:00 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 07:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 07:54 CatharsisUT wrote:On October 07 2012 07:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 07 2012 07:48 CatharsisUT wrote:
That was about the best way for clg to win given the Regame. Even bigger lead than the first try. How can we complain when they got even further ahead this game? please dont be retarded Don't be a dick. No need to get so angry. I didn't dc the internet. to think the lead was bigger this game just by looking at the number 9 and 1 and 5k is dumb you dont take into account team fight composition momentum presence etc their lead was much bigger in the dc'ed game That's true but it was still a respectful comeback and it shows that that original 2nd game was not yet lost. I know people bring this up all the time but think of the CLG.eu vs M5 game. Yes lategame comps and whatnot but you have to realize that it would be an even worse call if they gave WE the 2nd game.
it was definitely a comeback, and i agree with not giving WE the win.
i still get to be mad about it cause i fanboy we D:
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