EPTOn October 02 2012 07:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Beautiful OP, JBright
Beautiful OP, JBright
^ JBright ur awesome, thank you for taking the time to do this.
[S2] World Championships Discussion - Page 4
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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance. Fair warning to all. | ||
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JDizz6688
United States177 Posts
^ JBright ur awesome, thank you for taking the time to do this. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:46 Abenson wrote: TPA THEY'RE SEEDED IN TOP 4, THAT MUST MEAN SOMETHING I BELIEVE Yeah, that the tournament format is very bad. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
If they seeded 4 teams Into the top 4 Can you tell me Why the hell they'd even bother with those other teams? Food for thought. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 02 2012 04:01 GeorgeForeman wrote: Any word on how the teams from groups will be matched up with the seeded teams? 'Cause if it's already something like, "Top seed from Pool A faces M5, second seed faces SK", you could definitely see a scenario where the final game in a pool is between two teams that are both 2-0, and both want to lose. (Just using SK and M5 as examples; I don't mean to imply that one is better than the other necessarily.) Has Riot done anything to address this possibility? Was thinking that too, the difference in facing M5 and SK is night and day, not saying SK couldn't pull off the upset but they are definitely a massive underdog to 8 of the 12 teams while M5 is the obvious front runners. Wouldn't be surprised to see a bad time baron called making one team get "caught" and lose. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22577 Posts
On October 04 2012 00:17 NotSorry wrote: Was thinking that too, the difference in facing M5 and SK is night and day, not saying SK couldn't pull off the upset but they are definitely a massive underdog to 8 of the 12 teams while M5 is the obvious front runners. Wouldn't be surprised to see a bad time baron called making one team get "caught" and lose. Read up. Top 2 gets randomly put into the bracket so there is nothing to game. Just useless matches once 2 teams are through. (which tbh is the lesser of 2 evils) | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14208 Posts
On October 04 2012 01:20 cLutZ wrote: Why did Riot have 5 regionals in the first place? Can someone explain that decision? they divided the world into 5 pieces. NA (3 spots) EU(3 spots) SEA(2 spots)China(2 spots) and Korea(2 spots). then they decided to have 4 Byes past the group stage. Korea got the odd man out. On October 04 2012 00:29 Gorsameth wrote: Read up. Top 2 gets randomly put into the bracket so there is nothing to game. Just useless matches once 2 teams are through. (which tbh is the lesser of 2 evils) Riot is going to pay the people who place in the last 2 spots different money so its going to matter for them. One of the better things they did then other events even if its a simple thing. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
By doing so, we get to see "stability and creativity" inside 1 patch tournament. Things will be figured out, but it will also leave room to people who will want to break the meta. I believe every MAJOR sports do not change rules during a season. Maybe a game like LOL would gain something from this. TL;DR : by keeping 1 patch for a long time, things can be figured out and we will get to see better, refined plays. At the same time, because its the same patch, we can expect a sub-Meta to take form, and we can expect some teams to try counter the meta. And after one major tournament, BAM, all the newest patches apply, including all the new champions that came out. And team have to work hard to learn the new things. Of course, realistically, it would be hard... Players usually practice on the regular client. A solution to this would be limiting the RANKED games on the desired patch note, and leaving normals + customs on the newest patch. OR, by allowing custom games to decide which patch it will be played on (kind of like how in Warcraft 3, when you create a DOTA game, you can choose what patch you want to play). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 04 2012 02:17 XenOmega wrote: I think in order to stabilize LOL, they should make it so that the big FLAG events (like regionals or something?) are all played on 1 patch. So basically, you have "different" stable period before every major tournaments. Teams get to practice on the same patch, without having to figure out things after every patch and after every champion release, and without the risk of a suddenly NEW op champion. By doing so, we get to see "stability and creativity" inside 1 patch tournament. Things will be figured out, but it will also leave room to people who will want to break the meta. I believe every MAJOR sports do not change rules during a season. Maybe a game like LOL would gain something from this. TL;DR : by keeping 1 patch for a long time, things can be figured out and we will get to see better, refined plays. At the same time, because its the same patch, we can expect a sub-Meta to take form, and we can expect some teams to try counter the meta. And after one major tournament, BAM, all the newest patches apply, including all the new champions that came out. And team have to work hard to learn the new things. Of course, realistically, it would be hard... Players usually practice on the regular client. A solution to this would be limiting the RANKED games on the desired patch note, and leaving normals + customs on the newest patch. OR, by allowing custom games to decide which patch it will be played on (kind of like how in Warcraft 3, when you create a DOTA game, you can choose what patch you want to play). Riot has been leaning towards something like this but not completely just yet. They've made the patches around major competitions fairly minor so the live patch feels very similar to the tournament patch. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 04 2012 02:51 3 Lions wrote: lolz apparently hotshotgg lost 3 coin tosses in a row and so CLG.na is purple side all three games tomorrow OP | ||
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SlayerS_Jigglypuff
7 Posts
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On October 04 2012 03:43 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote: What is the time for Europe? :O Times from the schedule + 9h = CEST. | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 04 2012 03:43 SlayerS_Jigglypuff wrote: What is the time for Europe? :O If you set the timezone in your TL profile, the schedule in the OP will show up for your local time.  | ||
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
On October 04 2012 04:03 JBright wrote: If you set the timezone in your TL profile, the schedule in the OP will show up for your local time. magic :D | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32281 Posts
On October 04 2012 02:51 3 Lions wrote: lolz apparently hotshotgg lost 3 coin tosses in a row and so CLG.na is purple side all three games tomorrow Riot nerf plz | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 04 2012 02:51 3 Lions wrote: lolz apparently hotshotgg lost 3 coin tosses in a row and so CLG.na is purple side all three games tomorrow That seems really weird. Why would you do a coin toss for each game rather than one coin toss and then alternate sides? The probability of losing three coin tosses in a row is 12.5%, or 1 in 8. That's fairly frequent, so if the goal is to have as even a distribution of sides as possible this isn't exactly the best way to go about it. | ||
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:00 Seuss wrote: That seems really weird. Why would you do a coin toss for each game rather than one coin toss and then alternate sides? The probability of losing three coin tosses in a row is 12.5%, or 1 in 8. That's fairly frequent, so if the goal is to have as even a distribution of sides as possible this isn't exactly the best way to go about it. It´s not a B03 it´s 3 BO1s. Probablly lost vs all 3 opponents. | ||
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ChaosShadow
United States79 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:00 Seuss wrote: That seems really weird. Why would you do a coin toss for each game rather than one coin toss and then alternate sides? The probability of losing three coin tosses in a row is 12.5%, or 1 in 8. That's fairly frequent, so if the goal is to have as even a distribution of sides as possible this isn't exactly the best way to go about it. Its for the group stages, so its versus 3 different teams, alternating would work for a BoX series, but this is for 3 different teams. | ||
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