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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 05 2012 21:03 GMT
#1101
So Blaze has been pretty much in the driver's seat all tournament long. Every game they just seem to be controlling the game's tempo while their opponents just react to what Blaze is doing. Assuming that TSM is the #1 NA team (and I think they probably are) it's hard to say that the Korean scene isn't ahead of NA. That or maybe TSM's style is just shit against the Korean teams.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 05 2012 21:03 GMT
#1102
Azubu team fights way too good compared to sloppy TSM's team fighting
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 05 2012 21:04 GMT
#1103
Azubu is showing a very similar playstyle to the group stages, even though the influence is much more subtle. This is a very, very interesting clash of ideologies here.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
August 05 2012 21:04 GMT
#1104
I thought azubus damage sucked by team comp, but sivir so so so so so farmed.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 05 2012 21:05 GMT
#1105
On August 06 2012 06:03 overt wrote:
So Blaze has been pretty much in the driver's seat all tournament long. Every game they just seem to be controlling the game's tempo while their opponents just react to what Blaze is doing. Assuming that TSM is the #1 NA team (and I think they probably are) it's hard to say that the Korean scene isn't ahead of NA. That or maybe TSM's style is just shit against the Korean teams.


It's purely a stylistic thing. CLG and any other team in Korea who has had experience against this style understands it. TSM chose to sit in America and ignore Korea and this is the result.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 05 2012 21:07 GMT
#1106
On August 06 2012 06:05 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 06:03 overt wrote:
So Blaze has been pretty much in the driver's seat all tournament long. Every game they just seem to be controlling the game's tempo while their opponents just react to what Blaze is doing. Assuming that TSM is the #1 NA team (and I think they probably are) it's hard to say that the Korean scene isn't ahead of NA. That or maybe TSM's style is just shit against the Korean teams.


It's purely a stylistic thing. CLG and any other team in Korea who has had experience against this style understands it. TSM chose to sit in America and ignore Korea and this is the result.


Yeah, which was stupid of them. There is zero chance that TSM will win season 2 finals unless they can get more experience against this style of play.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 05 2012 21:08 GMT
#1107
On August 06 2012 06:05 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 06:03 overt wrote:
So Blaze has been pretty much in the driver's seat all tournament long. Every game they just seem to be controlling the game's tempo while their opponents just react to what Blaze is doing. Assuming that TSM is the #1 NA team (and I think they probably are) it's hard to say that the Korean scene isn't ahead of NA. That or maybe TSM's style is just shit against the Korean teams.


It's purely a stylistic thing. CLG and any other team in Korea who has had experience against this style understands it. TSM chose to sit in America and ignore Korea and this is the result.

I find it hilarious that xpecial was arrogant enough to dismiss azubu, and st.v completely called him out on it on twitter.
liftlift > tsm
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 05 2012 21:09 GMT
#1108
I'd say considering that they only had two days to adapt to the Korean style - and having other games to play too - TSM has shown a great first game. You could clearly see an early game plan designed to counter the Korean plan, and it worked. They made two mistakes in teamfights, which led ultimately to the loss. If they would have played the teamfights as flawless as Azubu, TSM would have had the better chance at winning.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 05 2012 21:10 GMT
#1109
it's possible that it's just a stylistic clash, when aAa used to be around it was well documented that despite being able to take games off of M5 and CLG.EU, they literally got 2-0'd in every series they played vs an NA team, but having watched every game of OGN spring and OGN summer I'm inclined to say Korea is ahead of at least NA for the moment.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 05 2012 21:11 GMT
#1110
On August 06 2012 06:09 Celial wrote:
I'd say considering that they only had two days to adapt to the Korean style - and having other games to play too - TSM has shown a great first game. You could clearly see an early game plan designed to counter the Korean plan, and it worked. They made two mistakes in teamfights, which led ultimately to the loss. If they would have played the teamfights as flawless as Azubu, TSM would have had the better chance at winning.

No, they've had WEEKS to deal with it. They have a fucking B team, and OGN always puts vods up afterwards. They could've chosen to practice against Korean meta. BUT NO. they didn't, and this is the result. The only reason Curse got 1 game off of Azubu, because St.V has played against korean meta, probably had good understanding on how to deal with it.
liftlift > tsm
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 05 2012 21:13 GMT
#1111
On August 06 2012 06:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 06:09 Celial wrote:
I'd say considering that they only had two days to adapt to the Korean style - and having other games to play too - TSM has shown a great first game. You could clearly see an early game plan designed to counter the Korean plan, and it worked. They made two mistakes in teamfights, which led ultimately to the loss. If they would have played the teamfights as flawless as Azubu, TSM would have had the better chance at winning.

No, they've had WEEKS to deal with it. They have a fucking B team, and OGN always puts vods up afterwards. They could've chosen to practice against Korean meta. BUT NO. they didn't, and this is the result. The only reason Curse got 1 game off of Azubu, because St.V has played against korean meta, probably had good understanding on how to deal with it.

As a follow up from this. When Curse played Azubu Game 2 they played Korean style, especially after getting Alistar. Full pressure all over the map. There was even a point when Irelia thought she was finally able to get free farm when suddenly 4 members of Curse appear and kill her under tower after a million years of CC locking her down despite her passive lol.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 05 2012 21:14 GMT
#1112
lol ever since someone mentioned it on day 1 I feel so weird every time quiksh0t is talking and deman is just looking at the camera, literally looking into my soul so weird.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 05 2012 21:16 GMT
#1113
On August 06 2012 06:09 Celial wrote:
I'd say considering that they only had two days to adapt to the Korean style - and having other games to play too - TSM has shown a great first game. You could clearly see an early game plan designed to counter the Korean plan, and it worked. They made two mistakes in teamfights, which led ultimately to the loss. If they would have played the teamfights as flawless as Azubu, TSM would have had the better chance at winning.

Idisagree, I saw a lack of sound tactical planning and adaption. Example: tsm got bot tower first, very well done, however they swapped top without taking dragon or securing their blue, and they didn't even manage to save top. Azubu read the situation perfectly, and exploited tsm's tunnel vision on protecting top.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 21:19:44
August 05 2012 21:17 GMT
#1114
[image loading]


This cockiness is why TSM is going to lose to Azubu. Don't get me wrong TSM is good, but they're arrogant to thinking they're the best is what's going to cost them.
liftlift > tsm
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 05 2012 21:17 GMT
#1115
Blaze big again
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 05 2012 21:18 GMT
#1116
I already have a bad feeling after seeing only half of the picks... Regi with Twisted fate and chaox with ashe while blaze has urgot ryze and alistar already.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 21:20:49
August 05 2012 21:18 GMT
#1117
On August 06 2012 06:17 wei2coolman wrote:
[image loading]


This cockiness is why TSM is going to lose to Azubu. Don't get me wrong TSM is good, but they're arrogance to thinking they're the best is going to cost them.


They are the best. NA at least and argueably between EU too. Haven't seen enough from Asian scene to say anything yet. Either way TSM is going to lose this, they obviously arn't used to the Korean meta atm and I foresee it being the new meta after this.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 05 2012 21:19 GMT
#1118
TSM Bans: Shen, Nyaahri, Vladimir
Azubu Bans: Yorick, Rumble, Karthus

TSM Picks: Nocturne // Ashe TF // Janna Singed
Azubu Picks: Urgot Ryze // Alistar Meowkai // Irelia

TRIPLE GLOBALS VS ALISTAR+URGOT
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 05 2012 21:20 GMT
#1119
TSM: Semi global ganking comp
Azubu: TANK AND TONS OF DMG
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 05 2012 21:20 GMT
#1120
I personally do not believe that TSM is better than CLGeu or M5. They're certainly the best in NA though but that basically just means they're better than CLGna lol.
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