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GoDLy MD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom258 Posts
April 09 2012 00:47 GMT
#6021
btw, i'm a low elo scrub and I was wondering, what should you do in a teamfight like in last game?

from what I saw, vlad was happily tanking 2lift and jiji, pooling then he was back to full hp, by which time throwshotgg and sv had died, and they lose.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 00:49:36
April 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#6022
Whiffed cassio ults inc!
On April 09 2012 09:47 GoDLy MD wrote:
btw, i'm a low elo scrub and I was wondering, what should you do in a teamfight like in last game?

from what I saw, vlad was happily tanking 2lift and jiji, pooling then he was back to full hp, by which time throwshotgg and sv had died, and they lose.

Honestly, there wasn't much they could've done in 5v5 teamfights away from towers. At that point TSM was just too far ahead. The only reason why it dragged on so much is because Anivia wall is just super OP and can cause lopsided fights at tower.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
April 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#6023
Man I wanted to see Regi Leblanc :<
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#6024
On April 09 2012 09:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:35 Lancer723 wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
sloppiest game from both teams. and dan dinh's analysis is so full of shit, it's ridiculous.

"tsm has a much worse late game team comp"
later:
"I feel in the late game tsm has a much better pick off comp and this gives them the late game advantage"


Pretty sure he said that CLG had the better teamfighting comp but TSM had the better comp for picking people off.


He said a lot of stuff, most of which contradicted something else he said

Yeah, not a huge fan of the analysis style of casting, that's probably why I don't like Dan's commentary. Most of us know what's going on, we don't need you to tell us that being up 3 dragons is a good thing or that their ashe/ryze comp is going to try and pick someone off...

The only pro who ever taught me stuff while commentating was Jatt. Other than that anyone who has hit 1800+ doesn't need them cuz they just spout "obvious" stuff.


and 1800+ is a small part of the viewers even if more of them watch then 1800- relative to their size.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#6025
I really like CLG's teamcomp this game. Tanky comp OP.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#6026
Yes! they've finally worked out what m5 knew all along. A strong high burst mid lane denies counterjungling because shyv can't afford to be caught in the jungle.

So Reginald hard counters Ryze whilst covering Maokai's biggest weakness. As long as Dyrus can pair off top lane then things are looking good for TSM. :D
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#6027
On April 09 2012 09:47 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:35 Lancer723 wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
sloppiest game from both teams. and dan dinh's analysis is so full of shit, it's ridiculous.

"tsm has a much worse late game team comp"
later:
"I feel in the late game tsm has a much better pick off comp and this gives them the late game advantage"


Pretty sure he said that CLG had the better teamfighting comp but TSM had the better comp for picking people off.


He said a lot of stuff, most of which contradicted something else he said

Yeah, not a huge fan of the analysis style of casting, that's probably why I don't like Dan's commentary. Most of us know what's going on, we don't need you to tell us that being up 3 dragons is a good thing or that their ashe/ryze comp is going to try and pick someone off...

The only pro who ever taught me stuff while commentating was Jatt. Other than that anyone who has hit 1800+ doesn't need them cuz they just spout "obvious" stuff.


because everybody is 1800+ ...
.
what's with the entitlement lol

if everyone had in depth knowledge of the game being watched etc. they would not even need casters
but casters help to add analysis for those lacking it or open it up to new audiences
hence the popularity and appeal of korean commentators in BW

PLAAAAAAAAGUUUUUUUUUUU
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#6028
shoulda gonne cass imho QQ dont fail me regi
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#6029
I'm not really sure about the Maokai pick against Shyvana. Both SV and TOO have talked a lot about how Maokai is weak against Shyvana... and TOO himself ruined a Maokai's day with a Shyvana pick earlier this tournament in Day 1. Vlad can't really help against jungle invasions all that well in the early levels either.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
April 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#6030
On April 09 2012 09:48 TheLink wrote:
Yes! they've finally worked out what m5 knew all along. A strong high burst mid lane denies counterjungling because shyv can't afford to be caught in the jungle.

So Reginald hard counters Ryze whilst covering Maokai's biggest weakness. As long as Dyrus can pair off top lane then things are looking good for TSM. :D

interesting; I thought maokai was bad against a good counter jungler like shyv and wondered why TOO picked him.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#6031
On April 09 2012 09:47 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:35 Lancer723 wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
sloppiest game from both teams. and dan dinh's analysis is so full of shit, it's ridiculous.

"tsm has a much worse late game team comp"
later:
"I feel in the late game tsm has a much better pick off comp and this gives them the late game advantage"


Pretty sure he said that CLG had the better teamfighting comp but TSM had the better comp for picking people off.


He said a lot of stuff, most of which contradicted something else he said

Yeah, not a huge fan of the analysis style of casting, that's probably why I don't like Dan's commentary. Most of us know what's going on, we don't need you to tell us that being up 3 dragons is a good thing or that their ashe/ryze comp is going to try and pick someone off...

The only pro who ever taught me stuff while commentating was Jatt. Other than that anyone who has hit 1800+ doesn't need them cuz they just spout "obvious" stuff.


because everybody is 1800+ ...
.
what's with the entitlement lol

if everyone had in depth knowledge of the game being watched etc. they would not even need casters
but casters help to add analysis for those lacking it or open it up to new audiences
hence the popularity and appeal of korean commentators in BW

Twas merely commenting on shitcombo's post. I agree with you. TL is a bit different because of the concentration of good players. Hence why we whine a bit about getting bombarded by "obvious" (to us) information.

Although DD is seriously spouting some nonsense atm.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#6032
Maokai also not so stronk against Olaf true damage...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#6033
I think Maokai will be fine since he has a really strong early mid laner.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#6034
On April 09 2012 09:48 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:35 Lancer723 wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
sloppiest game from both teams. and dan dinh's analysis is so full of shit, it's ridiculous.

"tsm has a much worse late game team comp"
later:
"I feel in the late game tsm has a much better pick off comp and this gives them the late game advantage"


Pretty sure he said that CLG had the better teamfighting comp but TSM had the better comp for picking people off.


He said a lot of stuff, most of which contradicted something else he said

Yeah, not a huge fan of the analysis style of casting, that's probably why I don't like Dan's commentary. Most of us know what's going on, we don't need you to tell us that being up 3 dragons is a good thing or that their ashe/ryze comp is going to try and pick someone off...

The only pro who ever taught me stuff while commentating was Jatt. Other than that anyone who has hit 1800+ doesn't need them cuz they just spout "obvious" stuff.


and 1800+ is a small part of the viewers even if more of them watch then 1800- relative to their size.

Well I'm 1400 and I can safely say that anyone settling at ~1250-1300 elo knows the stuff they're talking about
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
April 09 2012 00:51 GMT
#6035
On April 09 2012 09:49 koreasilver wrote:
I'm not really sure about the Maokai pick against Shyvana. Both SV and TOO have talked a lot about how Maokai is weak against Shyvana... and TOO himself ruined a Maokai's day with a Shyvana pick earlier this tournament in Day 1. Vlad can't really help against jungle invasions all that well in the early levels either.


lol.....
invading vs cassiopeia is asking to just straight up lose.

#1 she pushes hella hard even at level 1. #2 unrivaled level 2. #3 AoE slow + speed up + retarded damage. #4 Ryze gets dumped on if he tries to fight cassio.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 09 2012 00:51 GMT
#6036
On April 09 2012 09:49 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:48 TheLink wrote:
Yes! they've finally worked out what m5 knew all along. A strong high burst mid lane denies counterjungling because shyv can't afford to be caught in the jungle.

So Reginald hard counters Ryze whilst covering Maokai's biggest weakness. As long as Dyrus can pair off top lane then things are looking good for TSM. :D

interesting; I thought maokai was bad against a good counter jungler like shyv and wondered why TOO picked him.


Maokai is really bad against counterjunglers like Shyvana. Cassio however is awesome against that.

Imagine if Shyvana meets Maokai in his jungle. Ryze/Karrthus looks over and says you're fucked. Cassio walks over and kills Shyvana. It's a HUGE difference, your mid lane can control the jungle.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 09 2012 00:51 GMT
#6037
On April 09 2012 09:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:47 Navi wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:35 Lancer723 wrote:
On April 09 2012 09:33 UniversalSnip wrote:
sloppiest game from both teams. and dan dinh's analysis is so full of shit, it's ridiculous.

"tsm has a much worse late game team comp"
later:
"I feel in the late game tsm has a much better pick off comp and this gives them the late game advantage"


Pretty sure he said that CLG had the better teamfighting comp but TSM had the better comp for picking people off.


He said a lot of stuff, most of which contradicted something else he said

Yeah, not a huge fan of the analysis style of casting, that's probably why I don't like Dan's commentary. Most of us know what's going on, we don't need you to tell us that being up 3 dragons is a good thing or that their ashe/ryze comp is going to try and pick someone off...

The only pro who ever taught me stuff while commentating was Jatt. Other than that anyone who has hit 1800+ doesn't need them cuz they just spout "obvious" stuff.


because everybody is 1800+ ...
.
what's with the entitlement lol

if everyone had in depth knowledge of the game being watched etc. they would not even need casters
but casters help to add analysis for those lacking it or open it up to new audiences
hence the popularity and appeal of korean commentators in BW

Twas merely commenting on shitcombo's post. I agree with you. TL is a bit different because of the concentration of good players. Hence why we whine a bit about getting bombarded by "obvious" (to us) information.

Although DD is seriously spouting some nonsense atm.

I wouldn't be saying it if he wasn't rambling about nothing, trust me. I LIKE Dan Dinh. He's a cool guy and a great player. "I feel like Chogath is going to get very tanky and become hard to kill late game" though?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 09 2012 00:52 GMT
#6038
oh hey he did pick cass

omfg im so happy
posting on liquid sites in current year
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 09 2012 00:52 GMT
#6039
I just noticed that Dyrus is not using the Legendary Vlad Skin. =/
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 09 2012 00:52 GMT
#6040
On April 09 2012 09:49 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 09:48 TheLink wrote:
Yes! they've finally worked out what m5 knew all along. A strong high burst mid lane denies counterjungling because shyv can't afford to be caught in the jungle.

So Reginald hard counters Ryze whilst covering Maokai's biggest weakness. As long as Dyrus can pair off top lane then things are looking good for TSM. :D

interesting; I thought maokai was bad against a good counter jungler like shyv and wondered why TOO picked him.

I don't think the picks had anything to do with counterjungling. TSM is on red side so CLG aren't gonna be aggressive on the blue buff anyway
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