• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:07
CET 06:07
KST 14:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)20Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1220 users

[IPL] IPL4 Main Event Discussion - Page 258

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 329 Next
IPL4 Feedback Thread
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5141
Doesn't Vlad counter Cho?
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5142
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 21:48:50
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5143
why xpecial never get flash @_@ scary

nvm he got it :D
GANDHISAUCE
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5144
Hmm. I think I like TSM's comp better. Not sure Anivia is gonna fit well beyond just being good: the only one she really is gonna "counter" is mundo. And Cho is good, but not a whole lot of damage. TSM has more damage and only slightly less tank.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5145
CLG has better team comp imho
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 08 2012 21:45 GMT
#5146
On April 09 2012 06:42 Prospero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:36 shrinkmaster wrote:

WOW
how is giving some team a second chance equal to giving another team a big advantage? if every team gets a second chance nobody has the right to complain.


WOW
Most people I talk to dislike "extended series" or giving the winning team a game up. It feels a bit anti-climatic when the team with the advantage wins. I'm not saying they didn't deserve it or anything, but it's jsut less fun (for me anyway, and seem like a lot of people feel the same with that I talk to). Personally? I like single elimination. Much more "on-the-line", tense atomosphere.

But my complaint isn't so much "the losers bracket champ is at such a big disadvantage, it's unfair"...it's much more "this isn't fun to watch if the winners bracket champ has such a huge advantage."

You really don't understand, do you? How about this. If it was single elimination, CLG would be in the bronze match. Now they are in the finals. Is being in the finals instead of the bronze match an advantage for them, or a disadvantage? Please answer me.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
April 08 2012 21:46 GMT
#5147
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 21:47:37
April 08 2012 21:46 GMT
#5148
On April 09 2012 06:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
Has CLG scrimmed TSM recently?

I think someone said that everyone scrimmed together day before or on the first day of the tournament.
I think it was moma maybe,the question was how are people playing and he seamed a little shaky during a scrim just now.
Cackle™
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 08 2012 21:46 GMT
#5149
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog

Except TSM has like no way to protect the kog lol. Unless you're talking about Dig's earlier games.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 08 2012 21:46 GMT
#5150
On April 09 2012 06:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hmm. I think I like TSM's comp better. Not sure Anivia is gonna fit well beyond just being good: the only one she really is gonna "counter" is mundo. And Cho is good, but not a whole lot of damage. TSM has more damage and only slightly less tank.

TSM is squishy as fuck....
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#5151
On April 09 2012 06:46 ClonedBefore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.

Well, CLG used to play Doublelift-gets-caught-and-dies-but-HSGG-and-SaintV-kill-everyone-anyway. So yeh.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#5152
On April 09 2012 06:46 ClonedBefore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.

^truth.

Its just people have gotten better about building and playing. The most basic comp in the game, and the one that has existed the longest, is protect the ad carry.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#5153
On April 09 2012 06:46 ClonedBefore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.


/facepalm

As opposed to the many AD carries that are beefy/have escapes.
Freeeeeeedom
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#5154
On April 09 2012 06:45 ClonedBefore wrote:
Doesn't Vlad counter Cho?


No way, l0l
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
April 08 2012 21:47 GMT
#5155
CLG has the teamcomp advantage imo
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 21:48:23
April 08 2012 21:48 GMT
#5156
On April 09 2012 06:47 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:46 ClonedBefore wrote:
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.


/facepalm

As opposed to the many AD carries that are beefy/have escapes.

Protect the trist was the original comp. And she has an escape. And she is STILL the hardest carry in the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 21:49:14
April 08 2012 21:48 GMT
#5157
On April 09 2012 06:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:46 ClonedBefore wrote:
On April 09 2012 06:45 fuzzbox wrote:
woohoo, new meta is protect the hyper carry.

Protect the Vayne vs Protect the Kog


Opposed to the meta where you sacrificed your AD? I'm pretty sure in every meta you tried to protect your damage.

^truth.

Its just people have gotten better about building and playing. The most basic comp in the game, and the one that has existed the longest, is protect the ad carry.


Also, people latch onto phrases more often now.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 08 2012 21:49 GMT
#5158
CLG burst vs TSM sustained dmg/heal
go go CLG!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 08 2012 21:49 GMT
#5159
TSM winning this first game will give them a huge momentum and will probably take the set if they are allowed to
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 08 2012 21:49 GMT
#5160
On April 09 2012 06:46 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 06:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hmm. I think I like TSM's comp better. Not sure Anivia is gonna fit well beyond just being good: the only one she really is gonna "counter" is mundo. And Cho is good, but not a whole lot of damage. TSM has more damage and only slightly less tank.

TSM is squishy as fuck....

Vlad isn't squishy, Mundo isnt squishy, and soraka buffed karth isn't exactly squishy either, not to mention zombie form can be categorized as a sort of tankiness in itself.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 329 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group A
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 349
RuFF_SC2 135
FoxeR 43
PiLiPiLi 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 6635
Sea 5957
Shuttle 66
Bale 44
Noble 27
Icarus 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever614
febbydoto57
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 801
C9.Mang0480
Counter-Strike
minikerr19
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox403
Other Games
summit1g6443
WinterStarcraft359
ViBE172
Hui .132
ToD89
ZombieGrub56
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1661
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 82
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity2
• sM.Zik 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1468
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
5h 53m
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
7h 53m
BSL 21
9h 53m
QiaoGege vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Mihu vs TBD
RongYI Cup
1d 5h
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
BSL 21
1d 9h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W5
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
Tektek Cup #1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.