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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected") At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament. Thanks. Neo, 20.1.2012 | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:11 nafta wrote: Yeah would be really annoying if it's 19:10.Can someone enlighten me why do they need so much time between games?I really don't get it. It's ~19:00 right now in Kiev so the event must have planned a break for the casters and crew to eat dinner. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3051 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 21 2012 01:52 NeoIllusions wrote: Melt down by Dignitas will be very sad to me. They were outclassed by M5 (who looks the strongest at Kiev by far) but Dig played solidly vs aAa. Playing solidly = catching Shaco doing very bad counter jungling and taking fights after aAa mispositionned like hell ? It was way more aAa fault than Dig win on that one >.> | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
Besides taking first blood and losing a couple blues shaco wasn't that great early game. Sure he forced a few flashes, but you should "overextend" when you can escape with flash else it just goes to waste. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:28 Slayer91 wrote: It was bad counter jungling when they get caught but when they didn't and stole blue it was game winning play? o.O That fight botlane where aAa ate a full Rumble Ult AND Nunu Ult, got aced and then lost Dragon was also pretty game-changing. On January 21 2012 02:29 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The baron was perfectly executed and unless Dominate just talked out his ass during the interview they were planning that ^_^ Exploiting the enemies mistakes is part of winning. Mentioned it in LR. They fakes the "burst Baron at the end to kill it" and when Shaco popped over the wall to try and steal it, it wasn't low enough. They then all stopped Baron to CC and kill Shaco and then took Baron without fear. Shaco's bad play during that time he got caught stealing Blue was not boxing up first and going first in without a tank line to protect him. The last time he died for it was the exact same reason. But he also deceived towards the oracles... | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
That is why constantly stealing the buffs with your team was game winning and mindlessly invading loses you the game. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:30 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: That fight botlane where aAa ate a full Rumble Ult AND Nunu Ult, got aced and then lost Dragon was also pretty game-changing. Mentioned it in LR. They fakes the "burst Baron at the end to kill it" and when Shaco popped over the wall to try and steal it, it wasn't low enough. They then all stopped Baron to CC and kill Shaco and then took Baron without fear. I was referencing Dominate saying they were gonna have a horrible early game regardless versus Shaco and they just wanted to wait around for their carries (Karthus) to kick in, but that is also a good point. Can your team really look good if you're doing an AoE comp though? You attribute them landing the ults to the other team being out of position and there's really no other way it can happen. Either the ults land and the enemy team dies or they don't... | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:30 necrosed wrote: You can't just go counter-jungling blind. You have to know the position of the jungler or be certain that you will win/escape a possible skirmish. That is why constantly stealing the buffs with your team was game winning and mindlessly invading loses you the game. Most of the counter jungling m5 and aaa did was blind. Its just normally they took the initiative to go right when it spawned however linak came without support from swain and lee sin so he just got caught instead of having a 3v3 fight. For example diamondprox wasn't scared of finding lee sin in the jungle because he could kill him 1v1 and mid or top would be followed and shyvanan can just ult out if it gets too dicey. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 21 2012 02:48 Slayer91 wrote: Most of the counter jungling m5 and aaa did was blind. Its just normally they took the initiative to go right when it spawned however linak came without support from swain and lee sin so he just got caught instead of having a 3v3 fight. For example diamondprox wasn't scared of finding lee sin in the jungle because he could kill him 1v1 and mid or top would be followed and shyvanan can just ult out if it gets too dicey. Thats basically the key to counterjungling. You either have to play someone who can kill anyone 1v1, or play someone who can peace if things get dicy. Of course, ideally you want someone who can do both. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
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Deman
United Kingdom42 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 21 2012 03:00 Two_DoWn wrote: Thats basically the key to counterjungling. You either have to play someone who can kill anyone 1v1, or play someone who can peace if things get dicy. Of course, ideally you want someone who can do both. Shaco doesn't fit into that? He got caught wasting his Q cooldown jumping into 3 of Dignitas. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On January 21 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Shaco doesn't fit into that? He got caught wasting his Q cooldown jumping into 3 of Dignitas. That just makes aAa's shaco an idiot. | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 21 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Shaco doesn't fit into that? He got caught wasting his Q cooldown jumping into 3 of Dignitas. M5 counter jungling was way cleaner than aAa's. Their second and third attempt at stealing blue were just horrid. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On January 21 2012 03:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Shaco doesn't fit into that? He got caught wasting his Q cooldown jumping into 3 of Dignitas. thats like first shaco rule, save Q for peacing out. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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