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JohannesClimacus
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
October 16 2011 13:59 GMT
#2621
I started playing around dreamhack and found the commentators really informative and helpful, but even now after only 6 months you can really tell the difference when a player does it. Ocelote at Cologne was good, Chaox doing the CLG RS king of the hill match (mainly the third game( was absolutely incredible.

If anyone is a football fan, it is like listening to a post match summery from Jonathan Wilson or Michael Cox compared to alan shearer. The later says what you can see, the former say what is behind what you can see. http://www.solomid.net/videoplayer.php?v=768

People who play are usually more than competent at following the action, map awareness and suchlike. Hence people like the more in depth stuff. The balance would probably be one play by play commentator, joe and deman for clarity, phreak and zenon for their enthusiasm (I dislike rivingtons commentary so I will leave him out). Then a competitive level player for analysis.
Niklai
Profile Joined March 2011
289 Posts
October 16 2011 15:09 GMT
#2622
iem, why are you still reruning? :C
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
October 16 2011 15:16 GMT
#2623
pro american rules football uses 1 player and 1 color commentator or 1 coach and 1 color commentator for most of the games, except MNF which uses 1 coach, 1 player and 1 color commentator.

the pregame and halftime shows have mostly players and coaches with a few other guys who are good broadcasters who tend to moderate the discussion.

NFL football has more money to blow in a week than all of progaming has spent over the last decade. They literally can have anyone they want and that is what they chose to do.

of course there are some stinkers there too. I guess the football equivalent of phreak is John Gruden.

watching IEM reminds me very effectively why I want dota 2 to come out soon though. these matches are stale and for the most part uneventful and the only time you see lots of people dying is like sk vs clg game 2 last night where CLG just gave up.

I hope that having a game that can actually compete with LoL for player base and prize money will push Riot to focus more on the competitive side and quit removing every mechanic that makes baddies cry. It should also push them to get the basic **** we've needed for so long like replays, spectator mode, more bans in solo queue and stop making a new champion every 3 week so they can sell 2 skin bundles.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
Emnel
Profile Joined October 2011
Greece384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 15:46:57
October 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#2624
On October 17 2011 00:16 red_b wrote:
watching IEM reminds me very effectively why I want dota 2 to come out soon though. these matches are stale and for the most part uneventful and the only time you see lots of people dying is like sk vs clg game 2 last night where CLG just gave up.
Check out fnatic games - bodies were pileing up since like 3 minute mark.


And about new champion picks in tournaments - i think it's good sign that they are not overused. Only way brand new champion can be very popular in tournaments is by being overpowered as fuck.

Situation when some of them are started to be picked is optimal.
Would you really prefer new champs to be just better than old ones so everyone who wants to be competetive has to buy every new champ? That d be worst case scenario imo.
Nasus feeds as he pleases.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
October 16 2011 15:44 GMT
#2625
On October 17 2011 00:37 Emnel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 00:16 red_b wrote:
watching IEM reminds me very effectively why I want dota 2 to come out soon though. these matches are stale and for the most part uneventful and the only time you see lots of people dying is like sk vs clg game 2 last night where CLG just gave up.
Check out fnatic games - bodies were pileing up since like 3 minute mark.


Fnatic vs v8 was crazy
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2011 15:46 GMT
#2626
About to go live with sypher vs clg.

Honestly? I think CLG have this. I want Sypher to win but I don't know if they got what it takes.

As for the caster discussion (and thanks for the kind words ), we are moving toward Replays. A LOT of the work we've done for spec mode got us very close to replays. Let's get spec live and then focus on replays.

Personally, my skill level is going to drop SO MUCH once replays go live. I'll just be watching stuff all day long ;P
My modesty is awesome.
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
October 16 2011 15:47 GMT
#2627
Stream started, interview with someone from Sypher now, didn't catch his name.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
October 16 2011 15:48 GMT
#2628
On October 17 2011 00:47 Lenwe wrote:
Stream started, interview with someone from Sypher now, didn't catch his name.


Pyrii. Also the chat on twitch is atrocious just insulting the guy for speaking something over than his native language. Rather disgusting.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2011 15:52 GMT
#2629
God, if I was interviewing a player, I'd always want it to be Elementz. There's no better interview partner than him, really.
My modesty is awesome.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 16 2011 15:53 GMT
#2630
Lol @ both Elementz and the caster not remembering Rocksolid/Dignitas
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 16:00:37
October 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#2631
Sypher Bans: Udyr, Galio, Nocturne
CLG Bans: Urgot, Janna, Kassadin

Sypher Picks: Koggles, Leona, CassiOPeia, GP, Amumu
CLG Picks: Sona, Trundle, Ashe, Kennen, Nidalee
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 15:57:19
October 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#2632
Did we shift back an hour last night? This is on much earlier than I expected...

Nope the OP just has the times wrong apparently ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#2633
Aaaaand another NA team leaving Kog'Maw to an EU team. Hey, give them Morgana too and we can go straight to game 2!
My modesty is awesome.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#2634
Sypher has Kogmaw
gg - Kog doesn't loose
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#2635
Ooooh Leona!
My modesty is awesome.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#2636
Kog'Maw Leona might lose though ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 16 2011 15:59 GMT
#2637
On October 17 2011 00:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Kog'Maw Leona might lose though ^_^


The're ashamed of Kogmaw's OPness so they picked Leona because they feel guilty
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 16:01 GMT
#2638
CLG-Poke-Heal v Sypher Protect-Koggles-At-All-Costs

Let's see what happens...
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2011 16:02 GMT
#2639
Jiji was on Ashe and Chauster was on Kennen before Sypher.Skyart dropped out. Eh?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 16 2011 16:02 GMT
#2640
I can see this going either way. Sypher has a ton of stuns to protect Kog'Maw, but CLG has Ashe, Kennen, and Nidalee to go destroy him.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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