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Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
October 05 2011 09:30 GMT
#3361
What a badass tournament. props to IEM for giving us quality games and it was worth staying up till 5 am everyday. Hopefully Riot gets their crap together soon so things like the first day incident won't ever happen again
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 05 2011 09:30 GMT
#3362
On October 05 2011 18:17 JBright wrote:
Since the ESL vote closed before the start of the finals, I just want to see if anyone would change their vote.

Wx for finals, but Misaya 100% for the games leading up to the finals. Extremely solid AP play all around with absolutely terrifying play on Twisted Fate and Karthus.
Moderator
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 05 2011 09:33 GMT
#3363
I like how the LoL music is still playing for the other games' awards.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Lunko
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovenia72 Posts
October 05 2011 09:34 GMT
#3364
What I hate from this I carried IEM awards is, you never see any support players there. Like Nyph would be getting my vote for this game, almost flawless play with best ingame timinging and warding and cleaning in the tournament, BUT "he didnt do cool frags"
Trololo
Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
October 05 2011 09:34 GMT
#3365
On October 05 2011 18:30 ChoBz wrote:
lol hotshot not seeing that handshake


Too busy farming the camera.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
October 05 2011 09:38 GMT
#3366
Lol. Need a gif of that hotshot denying carmac a handshake.
Lunko
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovenia72 Posts
October 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#3367
I wish that the comentators would start recording LoL Replays, so we can watch the game as soon as its done.
Trololo
JoeM
Profile Joined October 2011
7 Posts
October 05 2011 10:30 GMT
#3368
Really enjoyed every minute of this tournament. Hope you guys enjoyed what we did!

See you in New York?
www.twitter.com/joe_miller
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 05 2011 10:31 GMT
#3369
Pay for the planeticket Joe and I will personally buy you food all weekend

If you can make zenon stop saying Frozen Mullet, there will be breakfast included
KCCO!
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 05 2011 10:49 GMT
#3370
I do like mullets. Maybe that's the haircut I should get.
My modesty is awesome.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 11:27:23
October 05 2011 11:27 GMT
#3371
So based on the recap on the OP, it seems like HotshotGG pulled a HSGG and lost his team the game?
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#3372
On October 05 2011 20:27 Abenson wrote:
So based on the recap on the OP, it seems like HotshotGG pulled a HSGG and lost his team the game?


They looked like they didnt know what to do when all 5 chased hotshot thru the base. Hotshot had the right idea there pulling them to botlane thru their own base. But CLG just pushed mid and blue and didnt baron it up.
KCCO!
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#3373
On October 05 2011 20:27 Abenson wrote:
So based on the recap on the OP, it seems like HotshotGG pulled a HSGG and lost his team the game?

Tbh, CLG was just outplayed imo. Only saintvicious was dominant over his WE counterpart. HSGG won a couple lanes due to good counter-picking, but CLG lost the finals because their teamfighting was worse than WE's.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 05 2011 11:46 GMT
#3374
On October 05 2011 14:37 aliasds wrote:
CS just finished, we might get Joe back! He's doing interview right now as well
Also someone take over LR, that was exhausting :<

Kudos to all that LR! Was following CLG v WE in my lecture on martingale and brownian motion zzz

It sounds like some awesome games. Really looking forward to the re-runs later today and checking out that Vayne play!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
October 05 2011 13:01 GMT
#3375
On October 05 2011 19:49 DanielZKlein wrote:
I do like mullets. Maybe that's the haircut I should get.



Don't do it!

great work casting IEM...you and Joe were great
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 13:05:53
October 05 2011 13:02 GMT
#3376
WE - GP, Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Alistar, Karthus
CLG - Zilean, Kog'Maw, Janna, Udyr, Jax

Clg won cause they had far better superior comp. fidle ezreal become weak as the game progress and can be countered easy. Alistar needs 45+ mins to be somewhat strong and can be dodged easily not to mention his ulti is useless for the team
Karthus cant save them alone.

WE - GP, Taric, Vayne, Annie, Singed
CLG - Orianna, Caitlyn, Warwick, Sona, Kennen

on the other hand clg got outpicked here.

Vayne>>>caytlyn as the game progress , WW is a joke , kennen becomes rly weak at the end since he has awfull ap ratios and sona in general is useless past 20mins mark since her buffs are a joke at the end.

Pre nerf taric ( i consider hes new ulti a huge nerf to his tnakiness ) was the best supp by a long margin , ge is uber and everything else apart orianna was a better pic

WE - GP, Orianna, Taric, Vayne, Singed
CLG - Galio, Janna, Ezreal, Cassiopeia, Lee Sin

Ezreal doesnt allow mistakes ( which u can made as ezreal) and is the worst late game carry.

Overall they got outplayed in this game since the pics were more or less equall


Overall excellent tournament from gameplay perspective.

My opinion is that lol terms of pro gaming quality and professionalism is years behind sc2 , cs or even wow ( at his prime) if more and more asian teams get interested it will become much better imo
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2011 13:29 GMT
#3377
On October 05 2011 14:40 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm predicting that whichever team loses the first game will take the series.


Just saying ^_^
Hi.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 13:54:31
October 05 2011 13:53 GMT
#3378
On October 05 2011 22:02 topoulo wrote:
My opinion is that lol terms of pro gaming quality and professionalism is years behind sc2 , cs or even wow ( at his prime) if more and more asian teams get interested it will become much better imo


No explanation or argument at all about why you feel that way? Sorta random throwaway opinion there at the end with very little context. The only major "limitation" on the competitive scene I see in LoL is that there there aren't enough reasons to make a team for ranked 5v5 when people could just solo-queue. That leads to a stagnation and lack of teams at the top. Definitely don't see how it's behind WoW, though. CS and SC have been out forever, so no surprise more established games have more established competitive scenes. Even if SC2 is only a year old, SC infrastructure is 13 years old, which SC2 piggy-backed on top of.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
October 05 2011 13:56 GMT
#3379
On October 05 2011 22:29 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:40 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm predicting that whichever team loses the first game will take the series.


Just saying ^_^


Assuming both teams are equally matched, you had about a 25% chance of being right. Not exactly a crazy probability. Haha.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1015 Posts
October 05 2011 14:20 GMT
#3380
I typed this post just after the final game. Then my computer ate it and I wanted to kill myself. After some swearing I cooked a curry and felt better. Take 2.

I was able to watch pretty much all of the games, and despite the shaky start (due to technical difficulties they really should be on top of), it was a great tournament. The Asian style is just really fun to watch. It's not necessarily better, as many of this forums posters have pointed out, a team playing safe should be fine. However, it can really snowball, and there's something psychologically intimidating about dying all the time instead of being slowly squeezed out.

I watched the final game with my girlfriend, and while she doesn't play, she was able to get behind her country in a way similar to regular sports: “Go China!” “Hit the Americans” “Quickly run!”. She also dubbed hotshotgg ‘xiaojiji’, as saying gg out loud (as the commentators do) sounds like a Chinese word for penis. Xiao is small. Her random picking on him turned out to be strangely apt with his weird play at the end, which ended any hope of a CLG comeback in sad style. That said, I loved watching his Jax play.

One thing I didn’t understand in the last game, was how Vayne never got killed in team fights. Was it just perfect positioning/timing? A couple of times she was right at the front as it kicked off, but survived the whole time.

Also, throughout the semi-finals and finals games, there were these great 2-4 man jungle invades, in the early/mid game. They seem very strong, as you not only get the buff, but get can catch unlucky junglers. I guess it does cost quite a bit of experience and gold though. Is this kind of play common in high level games? (low level question). I never see them in my games.

I liked TL’s presence in the commentators lives

Overall I thought the commentary was good, and I liked how it was new-player friendly – I think that’s important to help the game grow. Having Elementz on board was also wonderful – so many little nuggets of insight.

Probably the best thing about the commentary from both Daniel and Joe was their huge enthusiasm for the game. You could tell they loved it, and were just as excited as we were. Throughout the tourney, listening to them made the games even more exciting and enjoyable.
If I was to make a criticism, I would say the camera work occasionally sucked. I’d see a fight break out on the minimap, desperately want to look, then see a kill had happened while we were watching farming or stats.

Overall though, great tournament. Oh, and if you guys have that translation of Chinese runes, it would be great.

PS: On my Chinese account all but the most recent 5 champs are free-to-play right now. Celebration or coincidence?
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
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