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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 05 2011 09:13 GMT
#3321
On October 05 2011 18:12 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I really do think Dignitas would have done better, they are way more experienced in the weird lineups and crazy combos. SK CLG and TSM are more oldskoolish kinda play. That doesnt work anymore aparently.

gg WE, well deserved!


wat. They lost one bo3 because of stupid decisions. Doesn't mean their style doesn't work. Infact, I think WE's style get's weaker the more you play them.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 05 2011 09:14 GMT
#3322
gg... Hotshot threw that game away, just feeding vayne so hard. They should have realized after his second death that he just could not handle bot lane against vayne taric alone. And the moment of greed that made him stop recalling near top, god what was he thinking?! Plus wasting his ult every time he was about to die.
Writer:o
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 05 2011 09:14 GMT
#3323
AEON is a really great team though, for those saying how they owned WE up. They're probably one of the first Dota organizations to switch over to LoL, and I think they may even have some ex-Dota players in their line-up. Lots of experience in that team, so not surprised they won WE.

But yeah, gg wp WE. Showing that, no, CLG didn't throw their losses on purpose to "hype up the tournament." Or at least, if they did, they're kicking themselves now.
Wrock Atticus
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada112 Posts
October 05 2011 09:14 GMT
#3324
I want to see a WE vs Dignatas best of 5!!!

Imagine some of the champion line ups we could see then!?
If you can't be good, be lucky!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22084 Posts
October 05 2011 09:14 GMT
#3325
Great tournament once it started but plz plz plz riot test your shit next time and make sure your client actualy works day 1....
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 05 2011 09:15 GMT
#3326
On October 05 2011 18:12 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I really do think Dignitas would have done better, they are way more experienced in the weird lineups and crazy combos. SK CLG and TSM are more oldskoolish kinda play. That doesnt work anymore aparently.

gg WE, well deserved!


The flaw in their strat is that Vayne+Taric will 2v1 any champion in the game when Vayne has flash up, and Ez doesn't snowball nearly as much as Vayne. Denying Singed farm has no bearing when you have to feed Vayne in the process. (Even letting Vayne free farm is a loss.)

It's Chauster's fault for apparently forgetting that you shouldn't stand next to walls against Vayne in game 2; I wonder if CLG thought he can't handle Vayne/Taric. I'm 100% sure WE would have ran Vayne/Alistar if CLG took Taric so they will have the support stun + Vayne flash/condemn.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 05 2011 09:15 GMT
#3327
On October 05 2011 18:13 l3ird wrote:
Dominated.. uh oh are we seeing the domination of china/asia?

GG wp World Elite


Fuck. Dude.

I'm going to bed before I have to read more posts like this. LoL community is the most ADD community of any esport.
ddod
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria144 Posts
October 05 2011 09:15 GMT
#3328
Great decision canceling that recall. Won them the game..

/sarcasm off
Black snake is evil, black snake is all I see.
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
October 05 2011 09:15 GMT
#3329
why are the casters making such a big deal out of this?

WE is not a bunch of guys playing for lolz but a professional esports organisation. Looking at how most western teams spend most of their time (streaming solo-q), it was just a question of time until a team with a more professional approach is going to rise to the top.

it's not like we haven't seen this in every non-fps esport game ever...
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 05 2011 09:16 GMT
#3330
On October 05 2011 18:13 BlueFlames wrote:
GG to World Elite really well played in almost all their games. Hope to see an other finals between them and CLG in the future. I had more fun watching LoL this week than SC2.

Me too! The Chinese style of aggressive ganking and teamfighting is pretty exciting to watch IMO. That's not to say that SK and CLG are boring to watch, but I really think that this tournament is going to drive the LoL meta forward (into less passive play) and also extend LoL's credibility as an esport as well as it gets more widespread recognition.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 05 2011 09:16 GMT
#3331
Their Vayne was really decisive always using flash for condemn stun. Most ppl are too scared to burn the flash for the stun.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 09:18:01
October 05 2011 09:17 GMT
#3332
Poll: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

Wx (AD) (25)
 
54%

Saintvicious (9)
 
20%

Misaya (AP) (8)
 
17%

Elementz (3)
 
7%

HotshotGG (1)
 
2%

Chauster (0)
 
0%

bigfatlp (0)
 
0%

Yms (top) (0)
 
0%

jtm (jungle) (0)
 
0%

lf (support (0)
 
0%

46 total votes

Your vote: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Saintvicious
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): bigfatlp
(Vote): Misaya (AP)
(Vote): Wx (AD)
(Vote): Yms (top)
(Vote): jtm (jungle)
(Vote): lf (support



Since the ESL vote closed before the start of the finals, I just want to see if anyone would change their vote.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 05 2011 09:17 GMT
#3333
Finals MVP definitely goes to Wx. Flawless play on Vayne those last couple of games.
God Bless
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
October 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#3334
On October 05 2011 18:15 h0munkulus wrote:
why are the casters making such a big deal out of this?

WE is not a bunch of guys playing for lolz but a professional esports organisation. Looking at how most western teams spend most of their time (streaming solo-q), it was just a question of time until a team with a more professional approach is going to rise to the top.

it's not like we haven't seen this in every non-fps esport game ever...


because this will help LoL grow inside China alot more.
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
October 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#3335
On October 05 2011 18:14 Azarkon wrote:
AEON is a really great team though, for those saying how they owned WE up. They're probably one of the first Dota organizations to switch over to LoL, and I think they may even have some ex-Dota players in their line-up. Lots of experience in that team, so not surprised they won WE.

But yeah, gg wp WE. Showing that, no, CLG didn't throw their losses on purpose to "hype up the tournament." Or at least, if they did, they're kicking themselves now.

or rolling in Chinese bribe money

Jokes aside, I think it's simply more difficult to declare that one team is better at taking advantage of enemy mistakes, than saying the other team suxxors, which is why all the focus on CLG (that and they are more e-famous, ofc)
boblb2
Profile Joined October 2011
Lebanon15 Posts
October 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#3336
On October 05 2011 18:17 JBright wrote:
Poll: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

Wx (AD) (25)
 
54%

Saintvicious (9)
 
20%

Misaya (AP) (8)
 
17%

Elementz (3)
 
7%

HotshotGG (1)
 
2%

Chauster (0)
 
0%

bigfatlp (0)
 
0%

Yms (top) (0)
 
0%

jtm (jungle) (0)
 
0%

lf (support (0)
 
0%

46 total votes

Your vote: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Saintvicious
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): bigfatlp
(Vote): Misaya (AP)
(Vote): Wx (AD)
(Vote): Yms (top)
(Vote): jtm (jungle)
(Vote): lf (support



Since the ESL vote closed before the start of the finals, I just want to see if anyone would change their vote.

Take Chauster off that list...He doesnt even deserve being on the list.
What is this?I dont even...
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#3337
On October 05 2011 18:17 JBright wrote:
Poll: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

Wx (AD) (25)
 
54%

Saintvicious (9)
 
20%

Misaya (AP) (8)
 
17%

Elementz (3)
 
7%

HotshotGG (1)
 
2%

Chauster (0)
 
0%

bigfatlp (0)
 
0%

Yms (top) (0)
 
0%

jtm (jungle) (0)
 
0%

lf (support (0)
 
0%

46 total votes

Your vote: Who was IEM Guangzhou finals MVP?

(Vote): Elementz
(Vote): Chauster
(Vote): Saintvicious
(Vote): HotshotGG
(Vote): bigfatlp
(Vote): Misaya (AP)
(Vote): Wx (AD)
(Vote): Yms (top)
(Vote): jtm (jungle)
(Vote): lf (support


I picked Wx, but Misaya was really strong too. Saintvicious was fantastic too, and almost carried CLG through the entire tournament but his team couldn't capitalise on his great Lee Sin and Warwick initiation in the finals.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Gantzie
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia245 Posts
October 05 2011 09:19 GMT
#3338
Misaya for sure, that Orianna control, pretty much indicates his a sick nerd baller.
Dunked
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 05 2011 09:19 GMT
#3339
On October 05 2011 18:16 cascades wrote:
Their Vayne was really decisive always using flash for condemn stun. Most ppl are too scared to burn the flash for the stun.


Most times lanes aren't 2v1. In most cases using it defensively is the best decision, but he's not exactly worried about a Galio while he has taric alongside, even if Saint comes to help. He can play as aggressively as he wants, knowing his death is unlikely unless he really stops paying attention or they lose ward coverage.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 05 2011 09:19 GMT
#3340
I think overall as a whole CLG was a disappointment this series. Kinda feels like when NA went to Dreamhack and got wrecked.

The players say there isn't a mechanical skill difference but I feel like there clearly is one. Look at how Chauster and Jiji getting outfarmed by their enemy counterparts basically every single game.
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