• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:58
CET 17:58
KST 01:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 285HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Quickbooks Payroll Service Official Guide Quickbooks Customer Service Official Guide
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1367 users

[IEM] Gamescom Discussion - Page 63

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 61 62 63 64 65 210 Next
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 19 2011 13:36 GMT
#1241
On August 19 2011 22:34 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 22:32 cascades wrote:
Hotshot Nidalee GG indeed.

Question to high elo:
Why do ppl not flash initiate when hotshot throwing spears behind the wall?

cuz they didnt have vision and its hard to initiate when people are pushing ur tower
wtf is sk gonna do? ww flash in to 5 ppl and ult? oh wait wickd actually did that see how it turned out


Well for that fight they didn't have tower to retreat too, but yeah I see what u mean. But it got to be better than standing there and hoping Nidaree misses, no?
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 19 2011 13:36 GMT
#1242
imo somewhat fair calls on wickd, if you've ever watched his stream...

but im still flabbergasted that they gave hotshot that nidalee :D I mean really!
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 19 2011 13:36 GMT
#1243
Meh, ashe is still the best AD carry in competitive 5v5, even if jijji hits 1/10 arrows, that one arrow can be game changing, and that alone is enough of a reason to play her.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 13:41:39
August 19 2011 13:36 GMT
#1244
Oops.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
August 19 2011 13:37 GMT
#1245
On August 19 2011 22:34 BlueBird. wrote:
Well semi - finals are decided, kind of curious how this third game plays out..

Is it possible a team tries to throw the game cause they would rather play vs Mill, instead of TSM, Do you still play the hardest possible and show your strat when it's possible you meet in the finals?

-_-


Mill is 2nd in the group, so you have to win to play Mill
nweb
Profile Joined June 2011
198 Posts
August 19 2011 13:37 GMT
#1246
On August 19 2011 22:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
jiji having a really poor showing so far. Possibly his worst in a tournament. He'll have to really depend on his positioning skills to balance things out. Otherwise Candypandah is going to face roll.


Pfft. He hasn't died once in the tourney and his team has won games convincingly. Whatever
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 13:38:58
August 19 2011 13:38 GMT
#1247
On August 19 2011 22:36 Senx wrote:
Meh, ashe is still the best AD carry in competitive 5v5, even if jijji hits 1/10 arrows, that one arrow can be game changing, and that alone is enough of a reason to play her.


I disagree if there's champions like tristana and vayne that can just rape a whole team if they aren't kept in check, but why people play caitlyn is beyond me. I can see MF because of the lane power and ulti for AoE comps, but ashe is just too good.

Vayne never got a chance to really shine there too many people were watching him (bigfatjiji at that last fight was not fighting him but zoning/threating to kill him if vayne got hit by a single CC).
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
August 19 2011 13:38 GMT
#1248
the only reason SK lost this game was not spotting them at level 1 jungle and the fact that they didnt ban nidalee, they were actually doing really good at bot lane, dragons and doing quite well in mid with ganks from nocturne but they couldn't handle the push from hotshotgg and wetdream was so far behind from that first blood that he couldnt gank mid or top early
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 19 2011 13:39 GMT
#1249
Ashe just isn't vayne that goes up to your face. Also people underestimate volley and the slow from it.

Not dying at all while keeping the volley poke and the dps running is by far not bad. I'd like him to hit more ult arrows tho :D

still that nidalee play..those spears, goddamn hurt!
Smokincoyote
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia57 Posts
August 19 2011 13:39 GMT
#1250
I still don't understand why SK went for Rumble instead of a more standard AP caster - particularly coming out of the previous EU meta of two AP... seemed unnecessary and gave them really poor burst dmg
<(^.^(< ^(^.^)^ >)^.^)>
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 19 2011 13:39 GMT
#1251
On August 19 2011 22:38 kenwoo wrote:
the only reason SK lost this game was not spotting them at level 1 jungle and the fact that they didnt ban nidalee, they were actually doing really good at bot lane, dragons and doing quite well in mid with ganks from nocturne but they couldn't handle the push from hotshotgg and wetdream was so far behind from that first blood that he couldnt gank mid or top early


Yep, gank nidalee before 6 or its a waste of time after that.
Nidalee rapes lanes really hard.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 19 2011 13:39 GMT
#1252
On August 19 2011 22:37 nweb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 22:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
jiji having a really poor showing so far. Possibly his worst in a tournament. He'll have to really depend on his positioning skills to balance things out. Otherwise Candypandah is going to face roll.


Pfft. He hasn't died once in the tourney and his team has won games convincingly. Whatever


I commented on jiji not dying. I credit him to his incredible positioning skills during team fights.

But that doesn't detract from the fact that he's missing a lot of arrows and would you not rather trade that in for a more secure ulti like Headshot or Bullet Time.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 13:41:22
August 19 2011 13:40 GMT
#1253
from what i saw of the game, jiji's arrows did cause the enemy team to blow a couple of flashes / reposition unfavorably, and ofc jiji never died himself with good position and peel from ele and co in the later fights. still worth the pick considering how well he positioned himself and fought in teamfights (ashe's damage output not terribad or anything esp if you permaslow most of the other team every volley)

bullet time maybe, but the cc in the volleys was invaluable in keeping hotshot unkillable
Hey! Listen!
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 19 2011 13:40 GMT
#1254
On August 19 2011 22:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 22:34 BlueBird. wrote:
Well semi - finals are decided, kind of curious how this third game plays out..

Is it possible a team tries to throw the game cause they would rather play vs Mill, instead of TSM, Do you still play the hardest possible and show your strat when it's possible you meet in the finals?

-_-


If I was CLG, I would try to take 2nd place in Group B. They're secured into semis, so try to take the easier bracket.

But not sure if they want to "play" the bracket like that.


Has CLG ever played Millennium before? Did they lose? Because they lost on more than one occasion to TSM and that was with Chauster and not Salce and not Jiji on AD.

Unless Millennium stomped CLG in the past at some point. I would think CLG would want to avoid TSM.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#1255
On August 19 2011 22:38 kenwoo wrote:
the only reason SK lost this game was not spotting them at level 1 jungle and the fact that they didnt ban nidalee, they were actually doing really good at bot lane, dragons and doing quite well in mid with ganks from nocturne but they couldn't handle the push from hotshotgg and wetdream was so far behind from that first blood that he couldnt gank mid or top early


FB on Noc is definitely not the reason why SK lost. SK was behind in every lane except bot.
Candypandah never converted his godly farm into anything tangible in team fights.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 13:41:19
August 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#1256
On August 19 2011 22:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 22:36 Senx wrote:
Meh, ashe is still the best AD carry in competitive 5v5, even if jijji hits 1/10 arrows, that one arrow can be game changing, and that alone is enough of a reason to play her.


I disagree if there's champions like tristana and vayne that can just rape a whole team if they aren't kept in check, but why people play caitlyn is beyond me. I can see MF because of the lane power and ulti for AoE comps, but ashe is just too good.

Vayne never got a chance to really shine there too many people were watching him (bigfatjiji at that last fight was not fighting him but zoning/threating to kill him if vayne got hit by a single CC).


I know it's just personal opinion, but MF's range makes her meh late game.

Caitlyn has strong lane presence and super long range, same with Tristana, I think that's why I like them as ranged carries.

And yes I think everyone is under the impression ashe is best in 5v5s, can't believe she's not banned every game after what happened in DH.

Jiji is pretty meh this event, but whatever, hopefully he gets it together before the semi finals.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#1257
On August 19 2011 22:39 Smokincoyote wrote:
I still don't understand why SK went for Rumble instead of a more standard AP caster - particularly coming out of the previous EU meta of two AP... seemed unnecessary and gave them really poor burst dmg


I think it's because Oce plays quite a bit of rumble and feels very comfortable with it.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#1258
So many viewers, LoL is doing awesome. Game developers are SO smart.
Moderator
jtrex
Profile Joined January 2011
Japan94 Posts
August 19 2011 13:42 GMT
#1259
More than 80k viewers!!! Wonder how many people watching SC2?
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
August 19 2011 13:42 GMT
#1260
I gotta agree with Neo here, if Jiji stays on ashe and his arrows don't tighten up there will be trouble heading forward. No other team is just going to let Hotshot do his thing for free anymore if they are smart.
Veni, vidi, vici!
Prev 1 61 62 63 64 65 210 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 670
Harstem 273
TKL 184
BRAT_OK 71
MindelVK 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3917
Rain 2297
Jaedong 911
Shuttle 412
Larva 395
Stork 367
Hyuk 162
Soulkey 140
Mong 84
Hyun 71
[ Show more ]
Snow 46
Backho 44
Sea.KH 42
ToSsGirL 34
JYJ 29
yabsab 24
Rock 20
Free 19
Yoon 19
scan(afreeca) 14
IntoTheRainbow 13
GoRush 12
ivOry 8
SilentControl 6
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
qojqva1987
syndereN298
Counter-Strike
fl0m2711
kRYSTAL_35
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King115
Other Games
Grubby1536
singsing1477
FrodaN1395
hiko921
crisheroes173
KnowMe128
ArmadaUGS78
Trikslyr51
Liquid`Hasu31
rubinoeu5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV144
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 41
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 10
• Pr0nogo 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV532
League of Legends
• TFBlade1573
• Stunt499
• Shiphtur263
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2m
goblin vs Kelazhur
TriGGeR vs Krystianer
RotterdaM670
Replay Cast
7h 2m
RongYI Cup
18h 2m
herO vs Maru
Replay Cast
1d 7h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-05
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.