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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:17 OscarN wrote: its funny how i pay for 11 dollars for the good stream, abd yet i dont get to watch the fucking matches they had.. thanks riot. u fucking derps its free? solomid.net for vods | ||
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guMmiwormz
United States312 Posts
all vods also here. http://iemgamescom.leagueoflegends.com/ | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:17 OscarN wrote: its funny how i pay for 11 dollars for the good stream, abd yet i dont get to watch the fucking matches they had.. thanks riot. u fucking derps Even worse, I think the HD subscriber stream is basically the same thing as the Own3d.tv stream that's embedded in the leagueoflegends.com page above.  | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 19 2011 04:59 Southlight wrote: Nah that's just the nature of jungle/support when you don't get rolling. Amumu in particular is risky because he's always in demand in teamfights so he rarely has the ability to just peel off and farm. It's why I eventually get frustrated playing him and either take a more aggressive jungler who can set his own pace, or pass it off to someone who can. I don't really know what this means. A fight without amumu because he's off farming is the same as a fight without shaco, or olaf, or ww. Everyone has the same value when they're not there... so if some other hero could wander off and farm, so could you. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:37 UniversalSnip wrote: I don't really know what this means. A fight without amumu because he's off farming is the same as a fight without shaco, or olaf, or ww. Everyone has the same value when they're not there... so if some other hero could wander off and farm, so could you. No, definitely not. Amumu's ulti in teamfights has the potential to win or lose you the entire thing, so when there's a teamfight, you'd better be there as Amumu.... Someone like olaf can't win or lose a teamfight with one skill, so he can go farm up without hurting his team as much. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:40 HyperionDreamer wrote: No, definitely not. Amumu's ulti in teamfights has the potential to win or lose you the entire thing, so when there's a teamfight, you'd better be there as Amumu.... Someone like olaf can't win or lose a teamfight with one skill, so he can go farm up without hurting his team as much. A champ that's as underfarmed at that Amumu was, where he gets instagibbed inside the first round of CC and doesn't even get to ulti is just as worthless regardless of who he is. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:35 TieN.nS) wrote: Even worse, I think the HD subscriber stream is basically the same thing as the Own3d.tv stream that's embedded in the leagueoflegends.com page above. Yea that was the funny part after buying the HD pass. At least it covers the other events too and can watch some sexy sc2. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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OscarN
Cape Verde292 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
Nunu couldn't really ult because of the CCs. Getting two quicksilvers was a good plan and would've saved M except the Annie who was really good otherwise decided to engage for no reason while the whole team was running away. M did an extremely good job stopping TSM from baroning the first time but they were just overall less coordinated. TSM's early game is superb and has gotten them the advantage every time. | ||
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:20 zulu_nation8 wrote: Nunu couldn't really ult because of the CCs. Getting two quicksilvers was a good plan and would've saved M except the Annie who was really good otherwise decided to engage for no reason while the whole team was running away. M did an extremely good job stopping TSM from baroning the first time but they were just overall less coordinated. TSM's early game is superb and has gotten them the advantage every time. I totally agree with you zulu_nation8. M is suffering for some recent lineup changes. Moma was more or less fired (he was their mid carry ap) and their carry AD YellowStar isn't there (due to Hollidays) so they made a lot of changes in their lineup and roles and they lack coordination from that. I don't know if they have the potential to reach the finals right now. TSM was looking great today with some innovation to the meta-gameplay (wriggles) and a good coordination and execution overall. As I said, I can't wait to see how the other big names like CLG, Fnatic or SK will perform tomorrow. A really exciting tournament so far  | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
Now udyr mid vs annie? tsm es #1 troll team | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:20 zulu_nation8 wrote: Just finished watching all three games. Millennium's carries outfarmed TSM's by a good amount except for the Jax that got screwed early. The Annie was even down in CS early from dying but caught up in no time. There really shouldn't be that much difference in lasthitting mechanics between top players. It was the same at Dreamhack where all the Euro teams out lasthit American teams for no apparent reason. I'm really curious how that happens. Nunu couldn't really ult because of the CCs. Getting two quicksilvers was a good plan and would've saved M except the Annie who was really good otherwise decided to engage for no reason while the whole team was running away. M did an extremely good job stopping TSM from baroning the first time but they were just overall less coordinated. TSM's early game is superb and has gotten them the advantage every time. Tsm saw them pick nunu and knew if they could shut down jax they would rape them and they did. Cait was only up 10-20 cs and jax was the same level as tsm's jungle and annie is fine with farm since she couldn't get lane kills against udyr. The big cs difference at the end was cait and jax farming alone and letting their team die. While just looking at cs and the early towers for m, tsm dominated laning by shutting down jax completely(28 min gunblade rush yo). Annie had more farm than regi but regi also had 4 kills early and focused on zoning jax. And triple wriggles made the 4k gold advantage when the game started to snowball more like 5-6k with all the free wards. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:54 HyperionDreamer wrote: WTFFFFF is TSM running right now. Brand top ashe mid udyr bot? Now udyr mid vs annie? tsm es #1 troll team Udyr against annie is pretty good since she normally relies on getting kills in lane, and brand raped jax so hard. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:58 bigjenk wrote: Tsm saw them pick nunu and knew if they could shut down jax they would rape them and they did. Cait was only up 10-20 cs and jax was the same level as tsm's jungle and annie is fine with farm since she couldn't get lane kills against udyr. The big cs difference at the end was cait and jax farming alone and letting their team die. While just looking at cs and the early towers for m, tsm dominated laning by shutting down jax completely(28 min gunblade rush yo). Annie had more farm than regi but regi also had 4 kills early and focused on zoning jax. And triple wriggles made the 4k gold advantage when the game started to snowball more like 5-6k with all the free wards. cait being up 10-20 cs free farming with support vs a free farming ashe with support is and wouldve been a bigger deal if TSM wasn't winning in every other area. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:43 oHInsane wrote: TSM was looking great today with some innovation to the meta-gameplay (wriggles) Just an FYI, since the casters didn't seem to know this either. The wriggles on your bottom lane carry has become essentially standard in high level games on the American servers. With an AD carry/support lane, it provides the carry with some sustain, a free ward, massive dragon control, a madred proc chance for pushing lanes faster and/or making up for a few last hit mistakes, and it provides armor against the opposing AD carry. I would say that the lack of caster knowledge surrounding the American meta has been the only disappointment so far. Solo top Udyr w/ wriggles + SV is a first or second ban in every ranked or arranged game in America, and TRM made the Europeans pay for it and the casters look kind of dumb. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On August 19 2011 09:59 bigjenk wrote: Udyr against annie is pretty good since she normally relies on getting kills in lane, and brand raped jax so hard. Oh yeah, I knew that brand would destroy jax pretty hard because of burst trades - but i thought that annie would destroy udyr hard enough to make up for that and then some. | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:17 OscarN wrote: its funny how i pay for 11 dollars for the good stream, abd yet i dont get to watch the fucking matches they had.. thanks riot. u fucking derps Hmm, looks like I should edit that line then. I just copied the post from the SC2 OP and the paid HD definitely applied to them. However, since Riot has the HD for free on their own website there isn't really a need for that in this thread. | ||
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