• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:23
CEST 19:23
KST 02:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group A [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group B RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 18502 users

[IEM] Gamescom Discussion - Page 22

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 210 Next
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 18 2011 17:38 GMT
#421
this IEM is lacking in tech talk with Jonathan Vendel
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 18 2011 17:40 GMT
#422
Orianna kills Anivia in the fountain heal...lol
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:52:51
August 18 2011 17:40 GMT
#423
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 18 2011 17:42 GMT
#424
Loving that this is on. i've got a boing r3 day uni orientation going on right now... great that i can just sit in the back and scope this
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:42:20
August 18 2011 17:42 GMT
#425
Holy hell I missed an entire game already. Someone must have gotten smashed...
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 17:43 GMT
#426
On August 19 2011 02:42 BloodNinja wrote:
Holy hell I missed an entire game already. Someone must have gotten smashed...


It was the "3rd/4th" place match for Group A. Real derp game, you didn't miss much.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 17:44 GMT
#427
Don't miss the first game tomorrow, fnatic vs SK at 10 cest! Should be great.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 18 2011 17:44 GMT
#428
On August 19 2011 02:42 BloodNinja wrote:
Holy hell I missed an entire game already. Someone must have gotten smashed...


The last two games were also scheduled to start 5 minutes apart, so it wasn't too surprising that they ended around the same time.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:48:20
August 18 2011 17:45 GMT
#429
So it looks like thats all for today. Hopefully I caught some more live games tomorrow.

OT - Its been fun for me to watch the DotA2 games. Ive been playing a side game called "Hey I remember that" since the game has changed dramatically since I last played (DotA 3.7 on WC3 vanilla).
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 17:47 GMT
#430
Only recommended game today would probably be TSM v M. All the other matches were yawnrapes.

JBright, you'll be able to make the Day 2 thread as well? ^^
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:58:15
August 18 2011 17:55 GMT
#431
I didn't think this thread would get long enough to warrant a new thread (part of the reason why I didn't put down 'day 1' in the title), but I could definitely do that.

I was thinking maybe I could put a link in the OP beside the day 2 stuff to the page we start talking about those matches, but it's up to you.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 18 2011 17:56 GMT
#432
godamn, it's over for the day. Cant wait for rerun or vods...
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:10:07
August 18 2011 17:58 GMT
#433
On August 19 2011 02:32 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:30 0123456789 wrote:
The builds that that were run in this game doesn't make sense. My brain doesn't compute.


Made sense to me. o_o

Wriggle's on AD is still situational though.


Faster IE vs wriggles bf sword. Only thing he's really using it for is faster dragon. If they didn't have stronger jungling, it's useless. Well, wards. That's good I guess.

The lifeleech helps the "they have soraka we have janna" problem too, and none of the stats are really worthless. armor, AD, and the ability to choose to push the lane crazy fast aren't exactly useless stats/traits in the bot lane battle either.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 18:01 GMT
#434
A nice thing about Wriggle's is that it gives as much lifesteal as a BT with 12 kills on it without requiring the kills. So you can go Wriggle's -> IE and still heal up off of creeps pretty dern fast.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:03:07
August 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#435
On August 19 2011 02:28 HazMat wrote:
How does Chaox hit so hard with wriggles.

Janna + GP.

On August 19 2011 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Cait outplayed Ashe really hard

What? It was Cait Soraka vs Ashe Janna. Cait barely maintained a 10 cs lead for the majority of the game.
Cait Soraka should have CRUSHED that lane (that's why they toyed with Ashe mid, but Udyr Janna seems to have had even bigger problems, unsurprisingly), but did not.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 18 2011 18:04 GMT
#436
I was surprised at how closely Chaox managed to hold cs wise to that Cait to be honest. That theoretical lane advantage and the mess with lane swapping and all considered, the bot lane for Millenium definitely didn't accomplish what they needed to do.

Wonder why they kept Jax up top against Regi.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:07:37
August 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#437
On August 19 2011 03:02 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:28 HazMat wrote:
How does Chaox hit so hard with wriggles.

Janna + GP.

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Cait outplayed Ashe really hard

What? It was Cait Soraka vs Ashe Janna. Cait barely maintained a 10 cs lead for the majority of the game.
Cait Soraka should have CRUSHED that lane (that's why they toyed with Ashe mid, but Udyr Janna seems to have had even bigger problems, unsurprisingly), but did not.


They expected soraka/jax bot since a couple NA teams have been doing that.

Jax got man handled top even though he would actually have had be okay vs udyr with early nunu support.

You guys read a tiny too bit too much into the wriggles. It's just a sustainer. The constantly ward is worth 5 gold/10 so its a way of getting some extra income early on an AD carry while not having too much stat wasteage.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
August 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#438
Originally Posted by ryedan
wriggles is very cheap for the stats it offers, and the ward slot is really good. I'm not sure if design wants to do anything about it specifically, but it's been on the radar for a while.


gg

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1113212
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
August 18 2011 18:23 GMT
#439
One of the hidden benefits of wriggles is it reduces the burden on support for gold. When you have 3 wriggles, that's 3 free wards. This makes it so that the support can either afford to ward better, or can afford to get a little more gear.

Supports are already gold starved, and is why people get 5g/10 items on them. With triple wriggles its a way to give your support a little more gold to work with without giving them any CS.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 18 2011 18:26 GMT
#440
On August 19 2011 03:23 Insanious wrote:
One of the hidden benefits of wriggles is it reduces the burden on support for gold. When you have 3 wriggles, that's 3 free wards. This makes it so that the support can either afford to ward better, or can afford to get a little more gear.

Supports are already gold starved, and is why people get 5g/10 items on them. With triple wriggles its a way to give your support a little more gold to work with without giving them any CS.


I noticed that Xpecial's Janna was able to buy a negatron cloak and a blasting want in the last game. You wouldn't normally see that much gold from a support that has to provide all the wards for his team.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 210 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 728
ProTech69
JuggernautJason57
MindelVK 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6347
Sea 2946
Hyuk 1132
Rain 1113
Soulkey 150
Zeus 139
HiyA 48
TY 33
hero 31
Nal_rA 18
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 15
zelot 8
IntoTheRainbow 8
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6661
qojqva3162
League of Legends
Dendi1462
Counter-Strike
fl0m6404
olofmeister2843
Foxcn314
rGuardiaN78
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor151
Other Games
FrodaN838
C9.Mang0774
Mlord634
crisheroes392
Fuzer 144
ArmadaUGS131
elazer123
Mew2King116
Trikslyr85
XaKoH 82
KnowMe79
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream1602
Other Games
BasetradeTV42
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 12
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 32
• Rasowy 3
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3109
• masondota2461
• lizZardDota264
League of Legends
• Nemesis5502
• Jankos3357
• TFBlade1154
Other Games
• Shiphtur214
• imaqtpie146
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 38m
ArT vs ReBellioN
HonMonO vs Ziomek
Shameless vs LunaSea
MilkiCow vs GgMaChine
Moja vs HiGhDrA
Jumy vs TBD
Demi vs NightPhoenix
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
6h 38m
OSC
6h 38m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 38m
HiGhDrA vs Nicoract
MaNa vs HiGhDrA
HiGhDrA vs Reynor
Nicoract vs Reynor
MaNa vs Nicoract
MaNa vs Reynor
MaxPax vs Spirit
Krystianer vs Spirit
OSC
19h 38m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 9h
SOOP
1d 15h
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
Cheesadelphia
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
CSO Cup
1d 23h
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.