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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 21 2011 16:09 GMT
#4061
I heard that TSM wasn't going to be at MLG. I think Regi said he couldn't go. Can anyone confirm?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2011 16:10 GMT
#4062
They have an American sub for MLG already.
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 21 2011 16:10 GMT
#4063
On August 22 2011 01:08 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:06 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
It sucks that with such a large fan base and player base, every single big LoL tournament has been tarnished with something Riot did.

The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?


Are you saying that Riot crashed the servers on purpose so TSM would lose?

What? How did you even get that out of what I said? Having their server crash isn't Riots fault somehow? I am pretty sure it is.


You said it was "tarnished with something Riot did."

What did Riot do?

Riot doesn't control their own servers? Riot's spectator mode didn't crash every time people swapped thus having to make blind pick every game? I don't understand how these problems weren't Riots fault

It's obviously Riots fault but the way you present it as "tarnished" generally implies crookedness, as if Riot did it on purpose. Obviously that isn't what you meant though but I think that is what Ferrose is trying to say.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 21 2011 16:10 GMT
#4064
Anyhow it seems that EG should have advantage over CLG now that Salce knows what CLG does and can snipe.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 16:11:11
August 21 2011 16:10 GMT
#4065
On August 22 2011 01:08 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:06 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
It sucks that with such a large fan base and player base, every single big LoL tournament has been tarnished with something Riot did.

The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?


Are you saying that Riot crashed the servers on purpose so TSM would lose?

What? How did you even get that out of what I said? Having their server crash isn't Riots fault somehow? I am pretty sure it is.


You said it was "tarnished with something Riot did."

What did Riot do?

Riot doesn't control their own servers? Riot's spectator mode didn't crash every time people swapped thus having to make blind pick every game? I don't understand how these problems weren't Riots fault

??? The crash during swap bug isn't related to spectator mode at all, unless we are using spectator mode since the beginning of season one lol

You seem to have no clue what are you talking about o.O
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 16:12:11
August 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#4066
On August 22 2011 01:08 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?

Please don't make commentary on how programming works when you clearly have no grasp of it.

Bugs are 100% guaranteed when you add or change features of anything, especially something still unreleased.

That is my point. Riot puts out new champions every other week, they add stuff that makes them money. But when it comes down to adding/fixing/improving something that doesn't make them money, there seems to be a lack of attention.

The switch bug happened every single game, I am not a programmer, or even know how to programming, but I am preeeeeeeeeeeeeetty sure, you're supposed to test common things after you "add or change" features.

On August 22 2011 01:10 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:08 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:06 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
It sucks that with such a large fan base and player base, every single big LoL tournament has been tarnished with something Riot did.

The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?


Are you saying that Riot crashed the servers on purpose so TSM would lose?

What? How did you even get that out of what I said? Having their server crash isn't Riots fault somehow? I am pretty sure it is.


You said it was "tarnished with something Riot did."

What did Riot do?

Riot doesn't control their own servers? Riot's spectator mode didn't crash every time people swapped thus having to make blind pick every game? I don't understand how these problems weren't Riots fault

It's obviously Riots fault but the way you present it as "tarnished" generally implies crookedness, as if Riot did it on purpose. Obviously that isn't what you meant though but I think that is what Ferrose is trying to say.

Ahh maybe tarnished was the wrong word, it just simply meant that they've done something to hurt their reputation or make themselves look bad.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#4067
On August 22 2011 01:10 cascades wrote:
Anyhow it seems that EG should have advantage over CLG now that Salce knows what CLG does and can snipe.


Salce has to be able to beat jiji in lane first though. Which is a pretty tall order because, imo, jiji is better than Salce.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#4068
HotshotMVPGG
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
August 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#4069
HOTSHOT MVP
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#4070
On August 22 2011 01:08 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?

Please don't make commentary on how programming works when you clearly have no grasp of it.

Bugs are 100% guaranteed when you add or change features of anything, especially something still unreleased.


Yea, Riot is always taking a gamble with spectator mode, even observer summoner spell has been known to crash games. At least they seem to be only a bug or two away from stable and with the exposure this got it should be a very high priority fix.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 21 2011 16:12 GMT
#4071
On August 22 2011 01:10 cascades wrote:
Anyhow it seems that EG should have advantage over CLG now that Salce knows what CLG does and can snipe.

Not likely CLG's strategies aren't really super secret, they just have insane decision making especially during big team fights. Maybe he knows more of their Ban/Pick thought process and can deduce their next ban/pick though?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2011 16:12 GMT
#4072
george giving george goodies
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#4073
What !? the game really launched again ? I didn't see nor heard anything. :O
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#4074
On August 22 2011 01:10 cascades wrote:
Anyhow it seems that EG should have advantage over CLG now that Salce knows what CLG does and can snipe.


um, no.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Hibzy
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom445 Posts
August 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#4075
Kinda disappointed how TSM played, and the crash just adds fuel to the fire.

Ah well, WP CLG
"Uhh, I just have an insanely good sense of fashion." -TLO
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
August 21 2011 16:14 GMT
#4076
On August 22 2011 01:11 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:08 Craton wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?

Please don't make commentary on how programming works when you clearly have no grasp of it.

Bugs are 100% guaranteed when you add or change features of anything, especially something still unreleased.

That is my point. Riot puts out new champions every other week, they add stuff that makes them money. But when it comes down to adding/fixing/improving something that doesn't make them money, there seems to be a lack of attention.

The switch bug happened every single game, I am not a programmer, or even know how to programming, but I am preeeeeeeeeeeeeetty sure, you're supposed to test common things after you "add or change" features.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:10 taLbuk wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:08 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:06 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 ImHuko wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:05 Ferrose wrote:
On August 22 2011 01:02 ImHuko wrote:
It sucks that with such a large fan base and player base, every single big LoL tournament has been tarnished with something Riot did.

The spectator mode went from manageable to buggy since the last tournament, how the heck does development go backwards on something the presents your game to the world?


Are you saying that Riot crashed the servers on purpose so TSM would lose?

What? How did you even get that out of what I said? Having their server crash isn't Riots fault somehow? I am pretty sure it is.


You said it was "tarnished with something Riot did."

What did Riot do?

Riot doesn't control their own servers? Riot's spectator mode didn't crash every time people swapped thus having to make blind pick every game? I don't understand how these problems weren't Riots fault

It's obviously Riots fault but the way you present it as "tarnished" generally implies crookedness, as if Riot did it on purpose. Obviously that isn't what you meant though but I think that is what Ferrose is trying to say.

Ahh maybe tarnished was the wrong word, it just simply meant that they've done something to hurt their reputation or make themselves look bad.


You do test them, but the first lesson you learn in programming is that deployment is always different than your test and beta servers. Issues will always come up in the live environment that were not evident in the test environment. And when they do come up at a tourney like this, you can't just "fix it". It takes new code that then needs to be tested and redeployed. It's more complicated than you'd think. If it was so easy to release bug-free software, then everyone would do it. However, that never happens.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 21 2011 16:14 GMT
#4077
Like hotshot needs a bigger ego? ...

i feel sorry for anyone who gets put on his team in solo q after this lol
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
August 21 2011 16:14 GMT
#4078
lol dat hoodie is awesome
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 16:15:15
August 21 2011 16:14 GMT
#4079
On August 22 2011 01:11 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 01:10 cascades wrote:
Anyhow it seems that EG should have advantage over CLG now that Salce knows what CLG does and can snipe.


Salce has to be able to beat jiji in lane first though. Which is a pretty tall order because, imo, jiji is better than Salce.


Except that Salce doesn't need to beat jiji. He needs to beat their substitute. I not familiar with the high elo scene, but I don't think this NA sub exists.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 21 2011 16:15 GMT
#4080
On August 22 2011 01:14 Senx wrote:
Like hotshot needs a bigger ego? ...

i feel sorry for anyone who gets put on his team in solo q after this lol



Hotshot totally deserved it.

Played his ass off this tournament, and carried quite a few games.

He's the biggest star on the best team this tournament.
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