EPT[Ultimate Guide] Fizz, the Tidal Trickster - Page 5
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Wetty
Australia419 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Shits scary mang. 10/10 | ||
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Thx atrioc! | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
Who is fizz good with ? Say I jungle with my friend playing fizz what should I play? | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
also, you've got the same paragraph twice describing Urchin Strike as his passive ability | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 04 2013 00:09 CTStalker wrote: awesome guide, and really nice presentation! my only critique is that I'm not a fan of text embedded in images also, you've got the same paragraph twice describing Urchin Strike as his passive ability wtf, when did you start playing League? :O | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On September 04 2013 02:03 NeoIllusions wrote: wtf, when did you start playing League? :O just started like a month ago or so. you've been doing a nice job too, Mr LoL admin! | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
just a thought I wanted to throw out there, both of your opens work just fine. really nice guide once again btw, you have put the other guide writers on notice that much is for sure. Also my vote for next is Annie. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I dunno, I've been telling my junglers to care for the fizz bleed and make sure they last hit, but I just played a game where My Jungler ignore that advice and lost blue to my bleed despite me being in mid lane already (cuz apparently last hitting is hard?). Dude raged then just AFK'd rest of game after purposely feeding mid and top 3 kills each. My first loss on Fizz so lame. 6-1 too stronk. I FB'd the Annie right after, and I got really fed in game, just gah.. -.- Is it silly for me to just not level up W till I get in lane? Should I do that? | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
On September 04 2013 12:32 iCanada wrote: Okay, so what you protocol on leashing as Fizz? I dunno, I've been telling my junglers to care for the fizz bleed and make sure they last hit, but I just played a game where My Jungler ignore that advice and lost blue to my bleed despite me being in mid lane already (cuz apparently last hitting is hard?). Dude raged then just AFK'd rest of game after purposely feeding mid and top 3 kills each. My first loss on Fizz so lame. 6-1 too stronk. I FB'd the Annie right after, and I got really fed in game, just gah.. -.- Is it silly for me to just not level up W till I get in lane? Should I do that? If I'm mid lane and my jungler is starting blue I dont leash at all - there's no way to do it without missing creeps and bot lane should be able to cover it. If I'm top lane and leashing then I'll still take my chances with leveling W early because it speeds up the leash a lot. Just back off a little earlier and give the jungler full warning to watch out for it. On September 03 2013 19:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Hey Atrioc so I played a lot of Fizz in solo queue and I find myself having trouble with Lux. It seems like when she takes barrier and doesn't derp in lane she's really safe vs you, especially with jungle pressure. Am I doing something wrong? Should I be trying to land those early E flashes on her for kills? Her w plus barrier makes it really hard to put damage down on her for (my) W to do work and basically I just sit there farming double dorans -> sheen + boots as best I can. Is there a trick to the matchup? There are two ways I like to approach the matchup which in general I've had a lot of success with, but I 100% agree with the basic idea that Lux with 3 shields is very annoying. 1: Get 30/0/0, barrier or flash with ignite, start red pot or dring (prefer the first but it will clue them in to what your plan is), get a really agressive runpage (the perfect one would be flat AP blues, flat AP quints, armor yellows, hybrid pen reds, but I dont even have that page and generally just use scaling AP) and start pushing the wave in such a way that you hit 2 first but its not frozen in front of her tower ( which means try to clear range minions if you can so the line stays the same when the 2nd wave comes in) start playing super agressive at either 2 or 3 depending on where shes standing and if possible coordinate with your jungler - you have amazing all-in potential around this time even with her crapton of shields, ESPECIALLY if you use E correctly and dont get hit by a binding. 2, Go 21/9, teleport with ignite, start flask + 3 pots, and get a normal defensive runepage (armor or hp/lvl yellows, mres blues, hybrid reds, AP quints) and just farm and chug pots if any harass sticks on you. Lux has a VERY hard time hitting you and an impossible time of hitting you without pushing the wave - no Lux will ever ever ever start with a ward and pretty soon she will be in a dangerous position. Fizz farms amazing under tower and you can eaisly set up some ganks from your jungler OR simply get the levels and cs you want - if she ever harasses you enough for it to be a problem, you can simply leave and TP back in (or gank bot!). Essentially this style abuses the fact that Lux without ignite has 0 realisitc kill potential on a Fizz that isn't diving her. Come teamfight time/ mid game when core items start coming into play she will be more and more scared of you and generally less useful anyway. 2nd style is objectively better imo, but I will almost always pick the first because I like to play aggressive and am always trying to kill the enemy mid laner 1v1. *edit* Always redpot sooner rather than later!! I see way to many people hold onto it until they are already halfway into commiting to an all-in or until someone is trying to dive and kill them and they end up just using it for the HP. I generally pop that sucker before I do my very first W-Q poke on the enemy mid laner and rarely regret it - the lane control it gives you is huge and worth the cost. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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 .I think I want to try out the 21/9/0 mastery strategy with Flash Ignite. Usually I just 30/0/0 yolo blaze it but as you get higher in rating the matchups get harder to 420 noscope because they're prepared for the burst. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
 It still help to understand more how to play against him with this. Thx | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
. This is great! If I ever need a new jungler or top and I pick Fizz for some reason I'll refer back to this. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 04 2013 18:45 Alaric wrote: What do Lux start in your experience? I only ever see them starting charm+pots (in general, I don't play Fizz), so they often have one or two wards. Do they start dring+2 pots against your Fizz? I think dring+2 pots is in general a terrible start on Lux. It doesn't give her enough mana regen to harass the way she wants and her AP ratios are low enough that 15 starting AP isn't really improving her damage. Most of her early lane damage is from her passive which has no AP ratio. If she starts dring+2 pots she's going to inevitably put herself in a position where she's pushed the wave up and doesn't have enough mana to use all 3 of her spells if the jungler shows up. That doesn't mean people aren't doing it though, maybe most Lux players are so scared of Fizz they think they need the extra all in potential from the HP? I typically take a ward vs. Fizz. He's hard enough to deal with solo I don't want his jungler there too. | ||
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stealthpt
Portugal2 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
Used to main Fizz a while ago, gonna pick him up again now that i finished buying Hybrid Pen Marks. Talking about Hybrid Pen, what's the reasoning behind having 7Hybrid pen + 2 Mpen marks? | ||
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