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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
in practice its a trade off for more defensive stats vs more % armourpen because its 1663 for BC upgraade and 1350 for hexdrinker and 1200 for phage, and 1600 gives you giants +2 cloths. i get like elder lizard or spirit of the ancient golem and then shit like hexdrinker/brutalizer/ninja tabi/randuins maybe a spirit visage vs heavy ap teams. or a warmogs if i went lizard instead of randuins maybe | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I haven't played her enough yet to compare Golem and Lizard, I still think I'd prefer Lizard, at least in soloQ, because you're burst-oriented so having some early damage plays into that (especially considering how strong you are during skirmishes), and you want to be able to smash people yourself without being overly reliant on your laners to do the damage. Atm I'm rushing Lizard -> boots1, then either Cowl or Warden's Mail depending on who's threatening on the enemy team, with boots2 somewhere between "right after Lizard" and "right between Cowl/Warden's and the other" depending on needs. I usually end up building Tabi and Cowl first, as it gives some HP compared to Warden's which, being full armour, would leave me pretty squishy against magic burst. Most of the time I finish SV before Randuin's because at this stage both are basically HP anyway, the build-up for SV is much smoother and getting 20% more CDR for my Q in teamfights (and ult, 48-63s cd ult is such a boon when the comps lead to long fights, you can easily pick somebody off before everyone has respawned or simply before their ults are back up and noone's looking to teamfight) is a nice side bonus. Most games are decided (or at least one team has a big enough advantage to be considered favourite) before Lizard/Boots2/Randuin's/SV, which in itself is a pretty nice (and expensive) core coming out of the jungle, so I haven't given much thought to follow-up items. GA's nice for suicide initiations esp. if their late game damage potential is high, Locket is another armour/MR item and if you're short on slots (I always keep one for wards) it's completed faster than a GA. BC/LW are pretty good at increasing your damage, BC being tankier and helping your team too. Or you can just build something like BotRK or Hydra if you want sustain (BotRK better for chasing and dps, Hydra's active doesn't apply a W stack anyway). | ||
Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
brutalizer/hex drinker is more than enough damage for early/midgame and you can covert to maw/BC late game after getting randuins or whatever golem/tabi already gives you a good hp/armour base (and hexdrinker gives mr//*hp) | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 26 2013 10:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: new triforce on vi wrecks everything (well, it wrecks on everyone who builds it but vi burst combo hits so hard) I did it on an ARAM once. Not even malphite could step up to me. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Iblis
904 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On September 28 2013 03:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Vi is a strong midlane vs champions like Zed actually. I've seen her tool quite a few. um...isn't it probably better for the team to choose a standard midlaner and get ganks from jungle Vi than to play mid Vi? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
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Apoptotic
United States137 Posts
On September 28 2013 07:08 nath wrote: um...isn't it probably better for the team to choose a standard midlaner and get ganks from jungle Vi than to play mid Vi? That's probably why Vi is typically played as a jungler. | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
But now that the meta is more mixed and have less hard CC every game, a farmed Vi can destroy a champ one by one. Q and E have 8seconds cooldown each without CDR so she can get her 10% health shield every 2 seconds lategame if she is not CCed. Edit: As stated by the poster below me, I'm wrong! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 02 2013 01:40 Iblis wrote: I wasn't wrong when I said she wasn't that good before because Lux mid, Zyra support, Kayle anywhere were in every game... But now that the meta is more mixed and have less hard CC every game, a farmed Vi can destroy a champ one by one. Q and E have 8seconds cooldown each without CDR so she can get her 10% health shield every 2 seconds lategame if she is not CCed. At level 12+, Vi's passive is on an 8 second cd. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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