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On July 15 2013 10:56 beetlelisk wrote:

My question is really if TROLLS has any experience with Soraka. I'm asking because my veteran friend calls her useless. I just need another point of view because the banana girl is my favourite support hero, both for her abilities and appearance. Appearance because she resembles Na'vi people from Avatar and I'm sort of the Avatar maniac. I have soft spot for cheesy stories wrapped in eye candies. Naturally her abilities are the most important of what makes me want to gain experience playing and learn when to play her.

On July 15 2013 11:49 Tooplark wrote:


I can tell you that Soraka Xerath is a pretty dang good bot lane combo, and there are a few other mages that would probably work well. (Anyone with long range poke and good late game potential, basically.)

On July 15 2013 12:07 beetlelisk wrote:
Thanks Seuss! Have you tried games with her?

Maybe I'm just another dipshit, delusional theorycrafter but her basic heal has 20 sec cooldown, ulti like ~150-120 right?
It's Infuse that has shortest cooldown and additionally no cost. The way I see it, her lore is wrong because her basic heal is a joke because of that ridiculous cooldown and ulti while potent and also useful, still because of the cooldown is rather secondary spell in my eyes and like you wrote, rather defensive in nature.

It's infuse that is the most spammable ability against champions and to aid allies and only ally can decide how he uses additional mana. It doesn't have to be defensive in nature and someone would have to calculate, how depending on a hero, much more mana can a hero use if thanks to Infuse he has no mana limit.
Like imagine Kog'Maw spamming endlessly Barrage and Void Ooze and then also Artillery and he is a carry after all isn't he?
Add Teleport and maybe boots of speed and perhaps she has a potential with a right hero combo to aid allies by supplying them with mana for offensive spells?
And the more mana burning the hero the more he can be rewarded and the less has to spend on mana regen items, blue pots and rely less on the blue buff?

On July 20 2013 00:36 Seuss wrote:
Unfortunately I won't be around the whole evening. I might be around at go time to help get things underway, but there are more future relatives I'm supposed to meet this evening.

Summoner's Rift
Summary: All camps outside of buff camps will now spawn later in the game. Some experience has been moved back from the Ancient Golem and Lizard Elder to their Young Lizard spawns so now junglers will need to clear the full camp in order to hit level 2, as opposed to simply killing the buff monster.

Wolves

• Spawn time increased to 2:05 from 1:55

Wraiths

• Spawn time increased to 2:05 from 1:55

Golems

• Spawn time increased to 2:05 from 1:55

Ancient Golem

• Base experience granted reduced to 260 from 340

Lizard Elder

• Base experience granted reduced to 260 from 340

Young Lizard

• Base experience granted increased to 50 from 10
  
• Base Health increased to 400 from 300

Our first jungle modifications in 3.8 were not quite enough to enact the changes we wanted, so we’re pushing spawn timers even further to finish the job while fixing some other unintended side effects.
Junglers could completely cripple an opposing jungler – especially early on – without fully committing to confrontation by smiting the buff and escaping, or killing their opponent with the immediate level advantage. We like the importance of aggressive early game invades, but we want to make sure there is an appropriate amount of risk involved.

On July 23 2013 04:25 Seuss wrote:
From this thread:


This is a significant change for the buff transfer strategy. Dropping 80 experience means that the laner receiving the buff will need to either kill one small Lizard, or wait for a minion to die in lane before they are level 2. Either has the potential to work, but the margin for error in executing this strategy has shrunk.

On July 23 2013 04:25 Seuss wrote:
From this thread:


This is a significant change for the buff transfer strategy. Dropping 80 experience means that the laner receiving the buff will need to either kill one small Lizard, or wait for a minion to die in lane before they are level 2. Either has the potential to work, but the margin for error in executing this strategy has shrunk.

On July 24 2013 02:10 red_ wrote:


On the other hand, it's even less xp taken from the jungler now.

Really the whole strategy comes down to who uses the buff more effectively anyway(jungle vs lane), so the xp change is pretty minimal, but ya.

Have you guys tried this with all the new rage d-blade start jungles? Seems like losing red means even less to them, especially since in some cases they literally grab the buff and go gank(like purple side Udyr) season 2 style.