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dae
Canada1600 Posts
Seems pretty strong its hard to tell since I'm doing it w/o runes on a level 12. Farming is easy, you do alot of sustained damage, attack speed/movespeed slows seem to be very annoying. Q->autos does ALOT of aoe damage, and your ult/heal are just amazing. Idk, hard to tell. Edit: Also, 10 min que times at level 12 is annoying. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:27 dae wrote: Been playing AP kayle mid with nashors/liandrys/sorcs/lichbane build. Seems pretty strong its hard to tell since I'm doing it w/o runes on a level 12. Farming is easy, you do alot of sustained damage, attack speed/movespeed slows seem to be very annoying. Q->autos does ALOT of aoe damage, and your ult/heal are just amazing. Idk, hard to tell. Edit: Also, 10 min que times at level 12 is annoying. Well I think spirit of eldar lizard does about the same thing as Liandry's in terms of dots. Liandry's seems to be the core of the build. Spirit also applies to targets hit by splash, costs less for the passive, and does more to targets with less than 2000 life remaining. Bladeorade is right. You don't need madreds. Madreds certainly helps vs big camps but spirit stone is fine because the health regen lets you use less pots. Technically you don't need any machete items to jungle. Also I've been using this custom skin on Kayle. ![[image loading]](http://img3.leaguecraft.com/skins/asset/skin_760px_5949_2.jpg) Find download here. http://leaguecraft.com/skins?champion=14&search=&rating=0&sort=-rating_total Only you can see it. But it's really cool. I also customized the login screen to "league of draven" because I got tired of Vi rocking her hips seductively. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
Assuming only these 2 items and E is active: IE+PD = 594 dps GB+RB = 272 dps (no stacks) GB+RB = 374 dps (full stacks) GB+RB = 431 dps (full stacks & below 50% hp) IE+PD clearly wins out in terms of raw dps. However, Kayle's Q will deal an extra 100 damage with GB+RB combo and the Gunblade active deals about 200 damage. GB+RB also grant 10-20% life steal and 20-30% spell vamp. In most cases Kayle won't need the extra sustain because she can use her W to heal herself and if she gets bursted down quickly then the extra sustain is mute. Unless you are against a team of 4 armor stacking bruisers just stick to IE + PD if you want to do the most damage. TL;DR Infinity Edge + Phantom Dancer give more DPS than Gunblade + Rageblade. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Of course IE + PD gives more DPS. They scale so well together. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:59 Bladeorade wrote: Leech back AoE with BT? The hell does that even mean. Of course IE + PD gives more DPS. They scale so well together. The incidental AOE damage you get hit with if you dont ult yourself. If you have AD Kayle + another AD, single target damage isn't an issue for your team. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
This is in soloq normals though, so it's a bit whatever. I often build Aegis after those items, since it's rarely seen. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1684pb/18_pbe_new_kayle_skin/ I don't like the new skin. The hair and face don't look like Kayle. Also she's not fully armored. Wings look weird. I like that she has a voiceover. I'm just gonna swap out some sound files. Honestly the oldest kayle skins suck. They're just recolors. The last 3 were ok. They still have triangle feet, but oh well. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CEgPr.jpg) Reminds me a bit of lux. It's not bad. The face expression bugs me and the left leg is in a weird posture. The hair is too short to be normal Kayle, but it definitely makes her look more like a fighter since hair just gets in the way of your eyes when you fight. | ||
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Imperium11
United States279 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 11 2013 08:02 nosliw wrote: why the sudden popularity of mid kayle now? Cause the Koreans are doing it. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
So why are the Koreans doing it? I don't mind nashors start too much: the cdr might be worth the dps loss and other stuff from other items. A sprinkling of mana regen helps. She also gets a stronger Q and W. I don't mind guise. Or sorc boots. Magic pen is still definitely better than AP. But what I don't understand is why people are finishing guise. The damage added is quite low. Also it seems like in that last game GGU vs DNG the Kayle played like an AP mid, and not like an Autoattack carry. | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
The 60 second cooldown on her ult will probably be 45sec because CDR is the shit to get with her and having this ult for every single teamfight can allow you to just force fight back to back, just lost a teamfight while the ennemy team had nashor buff and popped all there GA? Just push mid force a fight and profit from them not having anything anymore. The reason why Kayle is played AP with Liandry's and not AD is because she is a teamfight winner, less Burst but a high sustained AoE damage output. You have champ like Kha'zix, Katarina, Darius,AP Yi, Tristana(?) that will end a teamfight by cleaning up anything under 300hp, Kayle is the complement to them. Kayle will shred anyone that commits to teamfight. Let Kayle alive and she will wreck your whole team, focus kayle She'll still have atleast 5sec of Righteous Fury with ultimate to do the most damage possible to the whole team and allow your burst allies to clean up. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On January 13 2013 09:31 obesechicken13 wrote: So why are the Koreans doing it? I don't mind nashors start too much: the cdr might be worth the dps loss and other stuff from other items. A sprinkling of mana regen helps. She also gets a stronger Q and W. I don't mind guise. Or sorc boots. Magic pen is still definitely better than AP. But what I don't understand is why people are finishing guise. The damage added is quite low. Also it seems like in that last game GGU vs DNG the Kayle played like an AP mid, and not like an Autoattack carry. I think Jatt pointed out yesterday, that the effect from liandry applies with her E so it gets on more than one target. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On January 13 2013 22:00 Sponkz wrote: I think Jatt pointed out yesterday, that the effect from liandry applies with her E so it gets on more than one target. Also your damage-amping Q will damage amp the % health ticking from the Liandry - that shit HURTS. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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