Hm yeah even if the other guy sees you coming from a mile away and he's almost at his turret while you're still in the river you can still catch up to him and take 70% percent of his health off or even more with ignite. Sucks that a lot of people underestimate your ganks and assume that he is already safe and wont follow up.

TheBJ

Bulgaria906 Posts

January 25 2012 03:06 GMT

#22

You guys should watch top replays of the week , if you already aren't. I just did an epic penta kill that im sure every ahri player here will enjoy :D. I submited the replay to protatomaster and im 99% sure ill get chosen

Perplex

United States1693 Posts

January 25 2012 04:53 GMT

#23

On January 25 2012 03:47 RogerX wrote:
Wait a minute; I always though Ryze countered Ahri.

Who counters Ahri then? Lol. I mean LoL

Pantheon could probably do it if we're not taking junglers into account

RogerX

New Zealand3180 Posts

January 25 2012 05:08 GMT

#24

I was hoping more of an solomid AP vs Solomid AP carry

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

January 25 2012 05:26 GMT

#25

I have a lot of success as Ryze against Ahri played the way you suggest. It's so easy to walk directly towards them and bait a Q and/or E, and then dodge it before it hits (you can often get off an Overload at the same time as well). After repeating that move a few time Ahri is low enough to zone off the creeps, and it's pretty easy to build an advantage from there.

After 6 she's dangerous, but you can be enough ahead at that point to be safe.

The only trick is to never be hit by Charm. If Ahri hits you with Charm it's like guaranteed kill after 6. QQ

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

January 25 2012 08:15 GMT

#26

On January 25 2012 04:13 Hakker wrote:
If youre losing your lane as ahri you just push the wave and go somewhere else. Shes like sion but doesnt suck as much, and her ganks are so strong that if you dont get spotted its a guaranteed kill. I honestly think shes the strongest solo queue champion atm.

Wait wasn't sion just permabanned for the past 5 patches or so?

Slayer91

Ireland23404 Posts

January 25 2012 12:05 GMT

#27

Sion is in this weird state where everyone thinks he's terrible but when he's played a lot he's always banned and usually does well.

InvaderUK

225 Posts

January 25 2012 13:10 GMT

#28

Ahri always scares me, it seems she'll always pull ahead in lane against my conventional champs. She has the combination of great sustain, damage, range and mobility.

I haven't really come up with many ideas for a counter yet, but I'm thinking its going to either be Zilean in lane or a suppression ult in teamfights.

Slayer91

Ireland23404 Posts

January 25 2012 13:15 GMT

#29

Gaylio/Ryze She jumps in and then you kill her. Tree story.

h3r1n6

Iceland2039 Posts

January 25 2012 13:20 GMT

#30

I've had good success with Swain against her, but thats probably due to the Ahri's not playing her that well. I think most (or all) of Ahri's matchups just come down to skill.

TheBJ

Bulgaria906 Posts

January 25 2012 14:35 GMT

#31

Smurfing at 4 am pays off lol , here is my latest ahri penta kill http://vbox7.com/play:608bf676e1 ( probably loads slow )

Soloside

United States1238 Posts

January 25 2012 17:55 GMT

#32

The only matches I've been beaten mid during solo queue was vs a Leblanc. Only way she won was a jungle pressure that does some damage to you. Then she just threatens you until she's 6 and just forces you back with her nuke. As long as your ahead as ahri, I don't see you losing to any mid laner.

Good guide nonetheless.

Perplex

United States1693 Posts

January 27 2012 01:33 GMT

#33

On January 25 2012 12:06 TheBJ wrote:
You guys should watch top replays of the week , if you already aren't. I just did an epic penta kill that im sure every ahri player here will enjoy :D. I submited the replay to protatomaster and im 99% sure ill get chosen

didn't see it, I guess you didn't make it O.o

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

February 02 2012 18:23 GMT

#34

I've actually had huge problems playing against Ryze in a team fight. The laning phase is not nearly as bad, I took the OP's advice and just tried to pressure and zone him while pushing and keeping my self warded (mid).

But then when a dragon/golem fight occurs I can't really engage the team due to Ryze. He gets his Veil and tear and all of a sudden his Overload does absurd damage and I can't burst him down. If I ult in at an inoppurtune time his Rune Prison locks me down and I just get obliterated. Any advice on how to engage a team with Ryze during a team fight?

Cloud

Sexico5880 Posts

February 03 2012 15:46 GMT

#35

If you got an advantage in lane vs ryze, Wota -> Rylais -> Dcap should be enough for you to 1v1 him in teamfights for a while. If he gets fed off your other teammates then you'll need a negatron sooner or later.

The point is, single him out, do a full REQW combo then retreat, don't let him abuse his cooldowns on you alone. Once your cds are over you can come back to finish him. But anyway you should be aiming for favorable exchanges, which basically means don't let him combo you for free. A low health ryze is worse for their team than a low health ahri is for yours because of his lower range, worse cc and because his team is most likely counting on him to actually tank stuff.

spacemonkey4eve

United States267 Posts

February 07 2012 04:03 GMT

#36

are there any links to ahri vod's played by pros? All the ones on solomid seemed broken and I'd appreciate if anyone could provide some.

TheBJ

Bulgaria906 Posts

February 07 2012 04:13 GMT

#37

On January 27 2012 10:33 Perplex wrote:

Show nested quote +

didn't see it, I guess you didn't make it O.o

Not really sure if i submitted it correctly , it doesnt really say success or anything when u submit :D

Edit:apparently u should get a confirmation email which i didnt i tried resubmitting but still doesnt work

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

February 07 2012 05:36 GMT

#38

I don't get why people rush dcap. It's an expensive ass item, and doesn't give you much versatility besides straight up ap. From my experiences, Rylai's is absolutely by far the best item on ahri. The slow works on all her spells including w and her ult and her q can hit multiple targets easily. You should be playing her for ganks and kills in solo queue, and the best item for that is rylais. Not only that but you can kite any hero with this and punish them back if they don't 100-0 you. When you start ulting in 1 on 1 you want that extra survivability early on.

And ryze does not counter ahri. Just because you can't kill him doesn't mean he's a counter. You can push lane easily against him and roam, but just cause you can't ult in and 100-0 him doesn't mean anything. He should never be able to catch you and kill you.

And wtf, cdr boots? Joke? Listen, early on your cds don't need to be refreshed for you to get kills, you want straight up burst. If it's solely for the ult, the ult cd is very short and not needed all the time. Until you get void staff, mpen boots are easily the best, no other choice here.

TheBJ

Bulgaria906 Posts

February 07 2012 09:10 GMT

#39

On February 07 2012 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I don't get why people rush dcap. It's an expensive ass item, and doesn't give you much versatility besides straight up ap. From my experiences, Rylai's is absolutely by far the best item on ahri. The slow works on all her spells including w and her ult and her q can hit multiple targets easily. You should be playing her for ganks and kills in solo queue, and the best item for that is rylais. Not only that but you can kite any hero with this and punish them back if they don't 100-0 you. When you start ulting in 1 on 1 you want that extra survivability early on.

And ryze does not counter ahri. Just because you can't kill him doesn't mean he's a counter. You can push lane easily against him and roam, but just cause you can't ult in and 100-0 him doesn't mean anything. He should never be able to catch you and kill you.

And wtf, cdr boots? Joke? Listen, early on your cds don't need to be refreshed for you to get kills, you want straight up burst. If it's solely for the ult, the ult cd is very short and not needed all the time. Until you get void staff, mpen boots are easily the best, no other choice here.

The best item on ahri is DFG

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snpnx

Germany454 Posts

February 07 2012 11:50 GMT

#40

Very nice writeup, I'll be sure to practice those tips written, it's a whole other level than my measily play of Ahri.
Especially pushing people to their towers seems very effective.
If you don't mind, could you lose some words on playing vs. veigar? I'm normally going mercs against him to get out of the stun before his W hits, but maybe I'm just too careless against him? The times I lose lanes against him is if I get ganked and hit with a stun in that instance.