EPT[Champion] Ahri - Page 9
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
I think I'm like 10-1 with Ahri in ranked right now, I love her because you can still outplay people really easily with her even though she's a little weaker than she used to be. | ||
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Swordland
232 Posts
2 questions about Ahri, about her W and R skills. 1. Her W skill, it says she has 3 foxes circling around her, targeting enemies and prioritizing champions. So, am I right in saying, if at level one, W does 40 damage per fox, it can be a total of 120 dmg? Assuming all 3 foxes attack the same one champion. 2. I dont exactly understand how this R spell works. basically she dashes forward quickly in the direction she is facing, and produces 3x essence bolts, am I right? Then what? It says dealing damage to 3 nearby enemies. Again, could all 3 bolts attack the same champion? Thank you everyone  | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 15 2013 18:40 Swordland wrote: Hi guys I am new to LoL. 2 questions about Ahri, about her W and R skills. 1. Her W skill, it says she has 3 foxes circling around her, targeting enemies and prioritizing champions. So, am I right in saying, if at level one, W does 40 damage per fox, it can be a total of 120 dmg? Assuming all 3 foxes attack the same one champion. 2. I dont exactly understand how this R spell works. basically she dashes forward quickly in the direction she is facing, and produces 3x essence bolts, am I right? Then what? It says dealing damage to 3 nearby enemies. Again, could all 3 bolts attack the same champion? Thank you everyone 1 : Active: Ahri releases three fox-fires to surround her for up to 5 seconds. After a short delay after cast, each flame will target the closest enemy unit to itself, prioritizing champions, and deal magic damage to the target. Magic Damage Per Fox-Fire: 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+ 40% AP) Magic Damage to Three Targets: 120 / 195 / 270 / 345 / 420 (+ 120% AP) Additional fox-fires that hit the same target will only deal 50% damage. No it won't deal full damage to them. Magic Damage to the Same Target: 80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+ 80% AP) Provided all 3 hit the same target use this chart ^. 2 : Active: Ahri dashes towards the cursor and fires essence bolts, dealing magic damage to up to 3 nearby enemies, prioritizing champions. In the next 10 seconds, Spirit Rush can be cast two additional times before going on cooldown. Each enemy can only be hit once per dash. So no they can be hit by one of the 3 bolts but not all 3. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On March 15 2013 17:38 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Personally I just rush a kage's pick with a faerie charm into a morellonomicon -> Rylais, maybe one dorans if I need it. If it's a harass-heavy MR lane like Lux or Ryze I'll opt for chalice and I won't get morellonomicon but rather an Abyssal first. Kinda depends what my role is on team, if I'm utility burst cycles I'll go Morello/Rylais/Abyssal/Zhonyas usually in that order with a Liandry's or a Deathcap to round it out but if I'm supposed to be blowing fools up in one combo then obviously Deathcap goes in there before any other items. I think I'm like 10-1 with Ahri in ranked right now, I love her because you can still outplay people really easily with her even though she's a little weaker than she used to be. Do you fit a Chalice in there anywhere? Or do you rely on blue or simply manage your mana carefully? | ||
clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
morellos is also a very underappreciated item. the stats you get for the cost are actually off the hook. the chalice idea i dont like as much. id rather go mercs, revolver against harass lanes and then still build morello and so on. or even a build like sorcs 2 dorans revolver. that build was kind of core at ahris beginnings and still works well if you need to rely on sustain to lane. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 15 2013 20:04 PH wrote: Do you fit a Chalice in there anywhere? Or do you rely on blue or simply manage your mana carefully? Ahri's mana costs aren't intense, Morellonomicon might be enough there for the primary build (certainly will if you also build a doran's) Against physical lane opponents, IMO rush seekers + mana from something (chalice or doran) -> Rylais + Zhonya or DCap + Zhonya. I don't like Revolver. She already has a non-negligible amount of spellvamp (it amounts to around 11-12%, but it's a little better because you can choose to use it on all the creeps when it's up, then charge it up with foxfire cheaply.) and while it's true that it was popular in the past, spellvamp items were noticably more powerful at the time it was popular (WOTA was like 300 less to combine and gave 5% more spellvamp, plus double AP double WOTA compositions were very popular.) If you're against a harass lane where you can't really avoid the harass, harass back with foxfire/orb until they're at a point where you can threaten a kill on them if they get too close. Your passive + potions should be enough to keep you in lane unless you're just catching all their skillshots while missing all of yours. Another item which has been gaining a lot of steam on Ahri - but I haven't personally tried it - is Lichbane. My friend who plays like... almost 100% ahri when he goes mid says it's really nice because Ahri has a really smooth attack animation which is very easy to weave into your combos, especially when going for a kill with Spirit Rush. When he gets it, I believe he builds the Sheen early, finishing the Lichbane after his first major item (Often Rylai's or DCap) | ||
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Swordland
232 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 15 2013 23:11 Swordland wrote: Ok, so basically her ultimate spell, she dashes forward and she releases ONE fox spirit that hits a champion. Therefore to make her attacks connect 3 times, I have to cast the spell 3 times because 1 cast = 1 hit right? That's right. For her ultimate, the 3 spirits (3 spirits per dash usage) will not target the same thing. It does mean, however, that in a teamfight, you can be nuking multiple enemy champions. To clarify: Each usage of the ultimate releases 3 spirits, but these spirits MUST target different targets (not the same as foxfire.) You can use the ult 3 times. Also, worth reminding that you need vision on a target to hit them with a spirit. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
It also really depends on who you're laning against. If it's an AD you really need to grab seekers early and in that case I'd probably skip tear all together and just grab a dorans (2 at most) and just rely on that + blue buff for mana. If it's a very harass heavy AP then grabbing an early negatron and holding onto that til 5-6 items works, or just making Abyssal as your first main item works well too, especially since Ahri can be all up in the enemies faces. Haven't actually tried tear > morellos on Ahri yet, I do it on some of the other Mids I play but I guess for some reason haven't done it on Ahri yet. Although 40% CDR Ahri shoots off spells freaking constantly lol. So it's gotta be pretty amazing. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
The logic behind the Gunblade being that since it has a .4 AP ratio the active can do solid damage, provide a slow, be on a much shorter cooldown than DFG due to the way Ahri's W works (just her W reduces the CD by 9 seconds). I am not fully convinced if he went Gunblade semi-trolly though because I can't imagine the damage you put out from Gunblade would be better than getting a DFG since you're getting CDR, a ton more AP, and the active on DFG is certainly stronger than Gunblade's active for sheer damage (not to even mention the damage amplifier). However what you'd get from Gunblade would be a semi-defensive item due to all the spell vamp/life steal you'd have along with the utility of an extra slow (but you could just go Rylai's for the slow/defensive item or DFG for more burst). I guess Gunblade functions as a semi-hybrid between Rylai's and DFG...maybe? Was ForellenLord just dicking around because ATN was so far ahead or is Gunblade legit and if so in what situations would it be better to get Gunblade over DFG or Rylai's? + Show Spoiler + Obligatory high light video | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
AD on gunblade is nice, but you won't be auto attacking much at all in team fights to really make it worth it. Vamp isn't needed since you're passive imo. As for active on gunblade, sure the slow is nice, but again I don't think it's as useful for her. With that said, after grail > dcap > void the amount of damage the lich bane proc will do is huge, especially since you in theory could auto attack once after each spirit rush to do massive amounts of damage. Although at that point I'd probably rather get a DFG for more burst or a zhonyas to get more tanky. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35142 Posts
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Klonopin
95 Posts
i go chalice, rylais, liandry's, athenes. with boots in there somewhere. and then void staff. first 3 games my score was: 11-1-7, 10-2-9, 17-3-10 | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On August 22 2013 10:00 Klonopin wrote: i was wondering what you ahri players think about rylais\liandry's. ive had quite shocking (to me anyway) success with it. i go chalice, rylais, liandry's, athenes. with boots in there somewhere. and then void staff. first 3 games my score was: 11-1-7, 10-2-9, 17-3-10 If that is your style of gameplay for ahri and it works that's great. But I prefer the more standard route of DFG, deathcap, and zhonyas. For some reason I never buy rylais nor liandrys on any ap mids especially if they're an assassin, but from the looks of it that build is more kite/tank oriented which looks pretty cool, especially the ryali slow on the initial dash of ult+foxfire for easier charm lands. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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LeapofFaith
United States446 Posts
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