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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2011 14:08 GMT
#81
Kass is officially a PITA to lane against. Stronger burst than you pre-6, better escape post-6, and passive to reduce all your magic damage. Ranks up there with annoying bastards to go against.
It's your boy Guzma!
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 26 2011 14:34 GMT
#82
On September 26 2011 21:15 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 18:55 Loomies wrote:
On September 26 2011 15:27 Seuss wrote:
Gunblade rush is popular for the same reason Mejai's+SotO rush was once popular. You sometimes get that one game where you get fed and just roll over your opponents because they do crap for damage and you spell vamp for infinity health.

By definition it's terrible on Dominion. Everyone is essentially equally fed, and you heal for 20% less.


What would be the ideal build for Akali on Dominion?


Does it really matter?

You can sit on a tower and defend it from 5 players for 8 seconds. You could be building full mana regen and she can probably still turn the game single handed.


Hextech sweeper or cheaper oracle are both very efficient counters.
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
September 26 2011 15:15 GMT
#83
I was just rereading the earlier posts and remembered other champs that counter akali. So including the other recent ones mentioned above the updated list would be:

Garen
Lee Sin
Yorick
Galio
Udyr
Kass
Cass (quite possibly the worst experience I've had playing against as akali)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2011 15:25 GMT
#84
Honestly, I always am wary of picking Akali in blind pick (not high enough for ranked) just because she can get randomly countered by a lot of champions.

However, it's so worth it for those matches where you don't get any of them, and all your opponents are nice and squishy. She's a very polarizing champ when it comes to early/mid game, but strong if you can fight the right opponents. I guess that can be said about any assassin type, though.
It's your boy Guzma!
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 26 2011 16:31 GMT
#85
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
September 26 2011 17:10 GMT
#86
Whenever i'm usually firstpick i always ask if anyone wants another champ so i can trade later and not get counterpicked. However since almost always people are too dumb to strategize like this I end up just first picking her. However at my current elo range (1400) no one is smart enough to counterpick/play counterpick properly/use pink wards and I end up hard carrying for a win :D
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 26 2011 19:23 GMT
#87
On September 27 2011 01:31 clickrush wrote:
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...

Or when someone picks akali and builds revolver then immediately after revolver gets a fucking pickaxe.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2011 19:26 GMT
#88
On September 27 2011 04:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 01:31 clickrush wrote:
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...

Or when someone picks akali and builds revolver then immediately after revolver gets a fucking pickaxe.

Lol, I rage so hard. "Alright, decent start, guess they needed some sustain. Good job, next will maybe be boots? Sheen? Ryali's? ...Oh shit."

Also, I've been called a bad Akali by people because I don't rush Gunblade before even level 1 boots.


ಠ_ಠ
It's your boy Guzma!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 26 2011 19:29 GMT
#89
On September 27 2011 04:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 27 2011 01:31 clickrush wrote:
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...

Or when someone picks akali and builds revolver then immediately after revolver gets a fucking pickaxe.

Lol, I rage so hard. "Alright, decent start, guess they needed some sustain. Good job, next will maybe be boots? Sheen? Ryali's? ...Oh shit."

Also, I've been called a bad Akali by people because I don't rush Gunblade before even level 1 boots.


ಠ_ಠ

Gunblade first is just the dumbest thing ever. Gunblade first on anyone but Jax is just straight retarded imo. It's a amazing item in that it has really well rounded stats and gives insane sustain, but getting it first on 99% of champs means your super susceptible to burst and your damage isn't nearly as good as it could be since it doesn't give that much AD/AP. All you can do with gunblade is single-target slow and stay in lane forever, but by the time u get gunblade, laning's over or almost over.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#90
On September 27 2011 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:26 Requizen wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 27 2011 01:31 clickrush wrote:
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...

Or when someone picks akali and builds revolver then immediately after revolver gets a fucking pickaxe.

Lol, I rage so hard. "Alright, decent start, guess they needed some sustain. Good job, next will maybe be boots? Sheen? Ryali's? ...Oh shit."

Also, I've been called a bad Akali by people because I don't rush Gunblade before even level 1 boots.


ಠ_ಠ

Gunblade first is just the dumbest thing ever. Gunblade first on anyone but Jax is just straight retarded imo. It's a amazing item in that it has really well rounded stats and gives insane sustain, but getting it first on 99% of champs means your super susceptible to burst and your damage isn't nearly as good as it could be since it doesn't give that much AD/AP. All you can do with gunblade is single-target slow and stay in lane forever, but by the time u get gunblade, laning's over or almost over.


Yeah, people can just be bad. I find that Boots-Revolver-Ryali's(or parts of it anyway)-Boots2-Lichbane has served me well in most situations. Good damage and survivability early on, burst later, especially with a lategame Deathcap.
It's your boy Guzma!
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
September 26 2011 21:28 GMT
#91
hi5 you guys should tell westrice and voyboy they're just bad
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 26 2011 21:35 GMT
#92
On September 27 2011 06:28 TieN.nS) wrote:
hi5 you guys should tell westrice and voyboy they're just bad

pretty sure westrice doesn't rush gunblade but goes rylais first.

not sure bout voyboy. gunblade lets you snowball hard 'cause you will be able to outheal w/e damage they deal to you, but gunblade first makes you squishy and your burst is considerably less than if you went rylais-sheen.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2011 21:48 GMT
#93
On September 27 2011 06:28 TieN.nS) wrote:
hi5 you guys should tell westrice and voyboy they're just bad


Westrice doesn't even think Gunblade is required on Akali and will often times skip Hextech Revolver to get an earlier Rylai's. To be fair though, I haven't been keeping up with streams and such for like two weeks so maybe he goes Gunblade first now?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2011 21:58 GMT
#94
Rushing Gunblade seems so bad though. You get a little more AD (mostly useless to the burst), some lifesteal (alright, but most of your damage is abilities, so meh) and a slow (probably the only good thing about it). The extra 35 AP is nice, but putting off Ryali's health, 80 AP and constant slow doesn't even seem worth it. 60 AD for auto attacks and some lifesteal doesn't feel like I should rush for it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
September 26 2011 22:01 GMT
#95
On September 27 2011 06:28 TieN.nS) wrote:
hi5 you guys should tell westrice and voyboy they're just bad


Except they usually go Boots > Rylais > Lichbane or Boots > Revolver > Rylais > Lichbane

Why, why did they have to put Akali on sale, had a mirror last night at top lane, he built Ionian boots > Gunblade > Warmogs... I really can't wait until something else becomes FotM
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 26 2011 22:11 GMT
#96
lol @ everyone saying gunblade rush is bad and top players get rylais first. why dont you go check their match histories instead of making stuff up. gunblade gives everything akali needs. after that is all situational although most of the time you're gonna want rylai, lichbane, GA.
GANDHISAUCE
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 26 2011 22:12 GMT
#97
On September 27 2011 07:11 De4ngus wrote:
lol @ everyone saying gunblade rush is bad and top players get rylais first. why dont you go check their match histories instead of making stuff up. gunblade gives everything akali needs. after that is all situational although most of the time you're gonna want rylai, lichbane, GA.

match history doesn't tell you the order they get items in.

gunblade is good on akali. no doubt about it. gunblade first is suboptimal.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#98
On September 27 2011 07:11 De4ngus wrote:
lol @ everyone saying gunblade rush is bad and top players get rylais first. why dont you go check their match histories instead of making stuff up. gunblade gives everything akali needs. after that is all situational although most of the time you're gonna want rylai, lichbane, GA.


Most of my post came from what Westrice did circa 2 months ago. I haven't been watching many streams so maybe gunblade first is the norm.

I haven't gotten to play LoL much the past like four days or so. I want to try this gunblade rush on Akali but since she's fotm I think I'll just keep being lazy and wait until people don't play her again.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 26 2011 22:16 GMT
#99
How does Akali do against Maokai? His passive charges up quicker because Akali likes spamming spells, and his saplings follow you through twilight shroud.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 22:28:54
September 26 2011 22:26 GMT
#100
On September 27 2011 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 04:26 Requizen wrote:
On September 27 2011 04:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 27 2011 01:31 clickrush wrote:
so many bad akali players lately in SR. obv everyone thinks he is an akali pro after raping faces with her in dominion. When someone firstpicks akali without knowing what to face in lane you can pretty much say he is one of them...

Or when someone picks akali and builds revolver then immediately after revolver gets a fucking pickaxe.

Lol, I rage so hard. "Alright, decent start, guess they needed some sustain. Good job, next will maybe be boots? Sheen? Ryali's? ...Oh shit."

Also, I've been called a bad Akali by people because I don't rush Gunblade before even level 1 boots.


ಠ_ಠ

Gunblade first is just the dumbest thing ever. Gunblade first on anyone but Jax is just straight retarded imo. It's a amazing item in that it has really well rounded stats and gives insane sustain, but getting it first on 99% of champs means your super susceptible to burst and your damage isn't nearly as good as it could be since it doesn't give that much AD/AP. All you can do with gunblade is single-target slow and stay in lane forever, but by the time u get gunblade, laning's over or almost over.

What are you talking about? Gunblade gives around 500 more damage worth of burst (for one combo, more damage the longer your combo goes) compared to Rylai's and has comparable cost.

As an assassin, your #1 goal is to kill your target, Gunblade lets you do this better than Rylai's and Gunblade is a much better 1v1 item than Rylai's. The extra damage from Gunblade usually determines whether or not you kill them in one combo or you need to extend your combo and consume extra ult charges (which buys precious time for enemy help to show up or for their cooldowns to come up). Akali doesn't need to build any survivability unless she can't jump in on someone after initiation and get instantly melted.

Edit: I'm pretty sure Reginald and Voyboy always go Gunblade first. I've seen Ocelote go Gunblade first as well as Deathcap first.
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