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necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
October 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#141
Btw, Flash + Smite or Ghost + Smite?
I'm in a struggle choosing between the two. I generally do Ghost on melee champions, but he does have highlander and (most of the time) ghostblade.
Shadow of his former self.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 06 2011 15:24 GMT
#142
Flash. Flash. Flash. That way you can actually counterjungle with a decent chance of escaping and you can rambo in, W when you get focussed and flash out randomly when it gets too much etc.

Also ghostblade+highlander = nuff movespeed.

On another sidenote, I don't know why noone talks about Triforce. Whenever I'm like "Damn, Ghostblade would make me too squishy but Atmogs would take too long" - I get triforce. Works like a charm. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 06 2011 15:31 GMT
#143
Triforce yi very legit as well, but it's considerably weaker than ghostblade yi if you are getting red buff and up until the point where you actually finish triforce.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 06 2011 16:32 GMT
#144
ghost is better for counterjungling (timings) for early ganks and for autoattack dps when highlander is not up. Also better for backdooring/solo pushing since you get there faster with flash and dont have to waste your steroids for it. Then ghost is also better if your splitpushing when they try to corner you.

flash is a more reliable escape for ganks and teamclashes. also good for burst champs that are cooldown reliant (flash out. come back in with CDs) and I dont think yi is one of them. Flash is also there to counter some of the initiation tools/skillshots.

both flash and ghost are situationally better for chasing, depedning on terrain, skills and summoers of your opponent.

I pick flash over ghost anytime on yi because it gives him a better early game. For example you can do nasty counterjungle timings with and its generally a better escape/chase tool in small scale scirmishes.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 06 2011 17:09 GMT
#145
On October 07 2011 00:22 necrosed wrote:
Btw, Flash + Smite or Ghost + Smite?
I'm in a struggle choosing between the two. I generally do Ghost on melee champions, but he does have highlander and (most of the time) ghostblade.


The answer is almost always always always Flash.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 17:14:07
October 06 2011 17:12 GMT
#146
When smurfing, Exhaust + Smite yi is basically autowin. Gets you free kills so easily and them pissy mages blow their combo on you while exhausted so you live and then they die.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 19:41:10
October 06 2011 21:56 GMT
#147
On October 07 2011 02:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
When smurfing, Exhaust + Smite yi is basically autowin. Gets you free kills so easily and them pissy mages blow their combo on you while exhausted so you live and then they die.

No. This is how you win as yi:

My proof:
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[image loading]
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 06 2011 22:51 GMT
#148
exhaust smite, you have built in ghost and you can blink to people, not to mention ghostblade active... he's not lacking in mobility. I'd rather even run smite ignite for ballsier assassination and snowballing in fights than ghost/flash.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
October 06 2011 23:05 GMT
#149
Guess I'll stick with Flash Smite, since I really love those agressive clutch-escape invasions.
Shadow of his former self.
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
October 07 2011 06:08 GMT
#150
Does anyone else prefer PD over ghostblade? I use both, but the build I use when I go PD seems to work more often.

Zeal>belt>PD>frozen>atmas.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#151
On October 07 2011 06:56 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 02:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
When smurfing, Exhaust + Smite yi is basically autowin. Gets you free kills so easily and them pissy mages blow their combo on you while exhausted so you live and then they die.

No. This is how you win as yi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPU9Ru1ftw
My proof:
[image loading]
[image loading]


That's a terrible fucking build, posting picks of you winning normal games with decent scores doesn't really mean much. If that build can consistently work at higher Elo ranked games, then it'd be worth considering but it looks like it's a massive waste of attack speed when your ult is factored in, and with diminishing returns on movement speed it's likely a massive waste there as well.

That is actually a completely horrible build.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 14:20:06
October 07 2011 14:18 GMT
#152
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.
Shadow of his former self.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
October 07 2011 14:39 GMT
#153
On October 07 2011 23:06 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 06:56 101toss wrote:
On October 07 2011 02:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
When smurfing, Exhaust + Smite yi is basically autowin. Gets you free kills so easily and them pissy mages blow their combo on you while exhausted so you live and then they die.

No. This is how you win as yi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPU9Ru1ftw
My proof:
[image loading]
[image loading]


That's a terrible fucking build, posting picks of you winning normal games with decent scores doesn't really mean much. If that build can consistently work at higher Elo ranked games, then it'd be worth considering but it looks like it's a massive waste of attack speed when your ult is factored in, and with diminishing returns on movement speed it's likely a massive waste there as well.

That is actually a completely horrible build.

Is it so horrible if you're smurfing?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
October 07 2011 14:40 GMT
#154
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 07 2011 14:49 GMT
#155
On October 07 2011 23:18 necrosed wrote:
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.


Can't tell whose serious these days, because I've seen mass PDs attempted on numerous champions.

Generally the best way to start of is to go for Wriggles/ Ghostblade/ Zeal/ Starks/ Start Frozen mallet if too squishy/ PD/ Banshee's if problematic CC/ IE.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
October 07 2011 15:03 GMT
#156
On October 07 2011 23:49 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 23:18 necrosed wrote:
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.


Can't tell whose serious these days, because I've seen mass PDs attempted on numerous champions.

Generally the best way to start of is to go for Wriggles/ Ghostblade/ Zeal/ Starks/ Start Frozen mallet if too squishy/ PD/ Banshee's if problematic CC/ IE.

The revive is seriously OP shit too
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 07 2011 15:04 GMT
#157
On October 07 2011 23:49 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 23:18 necrosed wrote:
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.


Can't tell whose serious these days, because I've seen mass PDs attempted on numerous champions.

Generally the best way to start of is to go for Wriggles/ Ghostblade/ Zeal/ Starks/ Start Frozen mallet if too squishy/ PD/ Banshee's if problematic CC/ IE.

This is exactly why we know you're not qualified to talk about this game on a pro level. You can't tell when someone posting a full zeal build is joking.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 07 2011 15:13 GMT
#158
Full zeal build is pro when the following conditions are met:

Your team is all squishies
You don't need attack damage
You consider high elo to be 1000
Opponents only buy wards when they misclick in the vendor window
The enemy team won't focus you because the tank has more health
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 16:10:04
October 07 2011 15:16 GMT
#159
On October 08 2011 00:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 23:49 Mordiford wrote:
On October 07 2011 23:18 necrosed wrote:
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.


Can't tell whose serious these days, because I've seen mass PDs attempted on numerous champions.

Generally the best way to start of is to go for Wriggles/ Ghostblade/ Zeal/ Starks/ Start Frozen mallet if too squishy/ PD/ Banshee's if problematic CC/ IE.

This is exactly why we know you're not qualified to talk about this game on a pro level. You can't tell when someone posting a full zeal build is joking.


Because people never actually do stupid builds right? And they never happen to work right? And then you never see idiots doing shit that doesn't remotely make sense, right? Oh... Yeah...


On October 08 2011 00:03 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 23:49 Mordiford wrote:
On October 07 2011 23:18 necrosed wrote:
I believe he was joking, Mordi.

I personally go for the glass cannon build: Zerkers Wriggles Ghostblade Pickaxe Zeal LW/PD, Blootthirster/IE depending on how well fed I'm. Once you reach that crazy build, any misstep from your enemy means a huge swing in momentum in your favor. There's always that menace of you acing and taking 2-3 towers inhibitors and nexus.


Can't tell whose serious these days, because I've seen mass PDs attempted on numerous champions.

Generally the best way to start of is to go for Wriggles/ Ghostblade/ Zeal/ Starks/ Start Frozen mallet if too squishy/ PD/ Banshee's if problematic CC/ IE.

The revive is seriously OP shit too


Revive/Smite used to be a popular build on Eve at one point, I assumed someone tried to port it to Yi. My bad.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 15:51:45
October 07 2011 15:23 GMT
#160
On October 08 2011 00:13 STS17 wrote:
Full zeal build is pro when the following conditions are met:

Your team is all squishies
You don't need attack damage
You consider high elo to be 1000
Opponents only buy wards when they misclick in the vendor window
The enemy team won't focus you because the tank has more health

1. Usually there is an offtank every game
2. I purchase x-man claws -> lantern, giving me plenty of survivability (lifesteal and armor) and damage, also wuju style
3. I am ~1350 elo, and I am terrible at this game
4. Other team has lantern too, lantern = ward
5. I have too much ms to get focused
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
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