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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 25 2011 23:26 GMT
#161
Teleport is a great summoner spell for soloQ kassadin. SoloQ's all about adaptation, since random nonsensical shit happens all the time and it's up to you to swing it into an advantage. I run the stolen-from-utah cleanse/ghost kassadin, but I still have to admit that there are times where I wish I had teleport for easy kills or saves.
fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
January 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#162
I used to play Kass all the time but really dislike him. He's an early game dependent champ who only excels if he gets farmed early, but isn't strong enough to farm champs early. He never wins teams games, he's a good snowballer that looks really good when his team is winning - but what champ doesn't?

I don't know. I feel like any game you win with Kass you win with him as another character, and a lot of games you lose with Kass you win with a more stable AP carry.

I don't need to hear, "You've never seen my/a good/a properly played... Kass". I've seen a fair bit of first and second pick Kass's either losing lane horribly and losing us the game or losing lane horribly and getting carried into a full Mejais at 17xx ELO.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
January 26 2011 03:48 GMT
#163
I can definitely do stuff with Kass that isn't as easy/possible with other characters. His repositioning skill lets me snipe squishies and escape for my CDs to come back up.

Kass isn't a standard AP carry. That's Anivia, Annie, etc. He could be the AP carry if he gets fed enough but you shouldn't consider him as the main source of magic damage on your team. He's an AP assassin.

Kass should not be losing a solo lane, a tie at worst. If you're not champion farmed you still can do a comparable amount of damage that is still relevant to anyone else during midgame. I don't see him being lackluster at any point in the game bar early game mana problems and not being able to sufficiently trade hits against someone aggressive.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 26 2011 04:12 GMT
#164
On January 26 2011 12:48 R04R wrote:
I can definitely do stuff with Kass that isn't as easy/possible with other characters. His repositioning skill lets me snipe squishies and escape for my CDs to come back up.

Kass isn't a standard AP carry. That's Anivia, Annie, etc. He could be the AP carry if he gets fed enough but you shouldn't consider him as the main source of magic damage on your team. He's an AP assassin.

Kass should not be losing a solo lane, a tie at worst. If you're not champion farmed you still can do a comparable amount of damage that is still relevant to anyone else during midgame. I don't see him being lackluster at any point in the game bar early game mana problems and not being able to sufficiently trade hits against someone aggressive.

what? Kass loses a ton of lanes.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 26 2011 04:14 GMT
#165
It's all about dat E. Force pulse OP.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
January 26 2011 04:25 GMT
#166
I never lose my lanes.

I exaggerated there and that's my fault.

He does lose lanes but I've never felt zoned by anyone and can usually keep up if I'm against a hard solo.
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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
January 26 2011 16:16 GMT
#167
Would you ever get CDR boots over Sorc boots?
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
January 26 2011 17:50 GMT
#168
I've only been zoned hard by cait/sivir.

CDR would almost never be better unless the enemy squishies already had a ton of mr
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
January 26 2011 18:19 GMT
#169
yea sivir is a bitch. stupid spell shield and my slow ass projectile.

i also have trouble against the guys with shields(malph and mord). idk maybe im just bad or i havent played one in awhile.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 26 2011 21:00 GMT
#170
sion so ghey
vs sivir use e, use low level q to pop shield / feint to make her waste her shield

malph has very few lanes that he does bad in, especially if he gets dshield / dring properly in the right matchups.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 27 2011 19:10 GMT
#171
I use flat ap glyphs and Quints now. Early levels alot stronger IMO.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 27 2011 22:22 GMT
#172
On January 28 2011 04:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
I use flat ap glyphs and Quints now. Early levels alot stronger IMO.

Quints I can see, but are the early game benefits of glyphs worth the fact that they get outscaled by scaling glyphs by level 6?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 27 2011 22:27 GMT
#173
I still stand by speccing Kass as a tank. I think he loses a lot more lanes if he shows up with +15 AP, +28 AP @ 18, +16 Mana Regen @ 18 vs. +97 HP, + 13 MRes, + 13 Armor.
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shrode
Profile Joined January 2011
United States8 Posts
January 28 2011 07:40 GMT
#174
Hey everybody- I'm new here, but thought I would throw my .02 about kass as he is easily my best champ.

masteries 9/7/14, taking the obvious 9 in offense, specing defense for strength of spirit (so godly for early lane staying power), and then 14 in exp boost, mana regen, and 2 in buff duration

I do mpen/clarity/cd blues/apquints for runes, and cleanse/teleport for summoners

start with blue crystal and 2 pots and focus on just last hitting. blue pill at 925 gold for catalyst. from there you are basically able to harass at free will and should dominate most solos. next time back get boots and tear and follow with mejais, upgrade to sorc boots, finish banshees, arch staff, deathcap, void staff. works great for me, just need to always be getting blue buff whenever you can. Very blue dependent without any itemized cdr.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 28 2011 20:30 GMT
#175
is the 9 in offense needed that badly? You could get additional movespeed, cdr, and summoner cdr for 15% magic pen (which is not noticable in the early game unless they rush double negatron or something funky like that as compared to your sorc boots + marks).

how do you do against carries like corki or MF who have high attack damage combined with other pokes that allow them to shred you to pieces without dshield? imo it would be pretty hard to deal with from levels 1-4 at the very least before you can start doing decent trades with them at 5. i would expect that it would be at least situational to grab dshield vs mana crystal.
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shrode
Profile Joined January 2011
United States8 Posts
January 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#176
that's a good question on the 9 in offense. I always assumed it was needed but I may try loading util a little heavier and maybe just get void staff earlier if needed.

but as far as phys carries go, I haven't had a lot of trouble with MF (SoS + 2 pots keeps me around long enough for 925 usually), she just makes me have to q to last hit a lot more. I haven't played with enough good corkis to tell yet, but so far the worst char to lane against as far as harassment goes might be caitlyn. she is really tough to deal with early so rushing catalyst is not fun.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 28 2011 23:31 GMT
#177
every time you use a Q on a creep as kassadin, you push your opponent a little closer to winning the lane

also god kills a kitten
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 01:17:51
January 29 2011 01:15 GMT
#178
On January 28 2011 07:27 Mogwai wrote:
I still stand by speccing Kass as a tank. I think he loses a lot more lanes if he shows up with +15 AP, +28 AP @ 18, +16 Mana Regen @ 18 vs. +97 HP, + 13 MRes, + 13 Armor.


What about AP/Mpen/Armor/AP?

24starting AP
13 Armor
8.5mpen

HP quints are always good but the 15AP = about 10.5 more Q damage, which will erode the HP advantage eventually. Plus, it accelerates the process of winning the lane when Kassadin is at an advantage . Mostly all that flat AP is to help Q hit extra hard from the get-go since it will be something like 80 (+17), which is a pretty big increase.

Another thing is, against what opponent is the Mres particularly helpful to win?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 29 2011 01:31 GMT
#179
On January 29 2011 08:31 gtrsrs wrote:
every time you use a Q on a creep as kassadin, you push your opponent a little closer to winning the lane

also god kills a kitten


if you're losing the lane, q'ing creeps is just fine ~.~
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 29 2011 01:38 GMT
#180
On January 29 2011 10:31 barbsq wrote:
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On January 29 2011 08:31 gtrsrs wrote:
every time you use a Q on a creep as kassadin, you push your opponent a little closer to winning the lane

also god kills a kitten


if you're losing the lane, q'ing creeps is just fine ~.~


if you're losing the lane, Q'ing creeps is def not going to make you win the lane, and they're not going to relinquish their lead imo, so i'm p sure my statement still holds true

especially the cat part
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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