EPT[Champion] Kassadin - Page 9
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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fadestep
United States605 Posts
I don't know. I feel like any game you win with Kass you win with him as another character, and a lot of games you lose with Kass you win with a more stable AP carry. I don't need to hear, "You've never seen my/a good/a properly played... Kass". I've seen a fair bit of first and second pick Kass's either losing lane horribly and losing us the game or losing lane horribly and getting carried into a full Mejais at 17xx ELO. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Kass isn't a standard AP carry. That's Anivia, Annie, etc. He could be the AP carry if he gets fed enough but you shouldn't consider him as the main source of magic damage on your team. He's an AP assassin. Kass should not be losing a solo lane, a tie at worst. If you're not champion farmed you still can do a comparable amount of damage that is still relevant to anyone else during midgame. I don't see him being lackluster at any point in the game bar early game mana problems and not being able to sufficiently trade hits against someone aggressive. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 26 2011 12:48 R04R wrote: I can definitely do stuff with Kass that isn't as easy/possible with other characters. His repositioning skill lets me snipe squishies and escape for my CDs to come back up. Kass isn't a standard AP carry. That's Anivia, Annie, etc. He could be the AP carry if he gets fed enough but you shouldn't consider him as the main source of magic damage on your team. He's an AP assassin. Kass should not be losing a solo lane, a tie at worst. If you're not champion farmed you still can do a comparable amount of damage that is still relevant to anyone else during midgame. I don't see him being lackluster at any point in the game bar early game mana problems and not being able to sufficiently trade hits against someone aggressive. what? Kass loses a ton of lanes. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
I exaggerated there and that's my fault. He does lose lanes but I've never felt zoned by anyone and can usually keep up if I'm against a hard solo. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
CDR would almost never be better unless the enemy squishies already had a ton of mr | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
i also have trouble against the guys with shields(malph and mord). idk maybe im just bad or i havent played one in awhile. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
vs sivir use e, use low level q to pop shield / feint to make her waste her shield malph has very few lanes that he does bad in, especially if he gets dshield / dring properly in the right matchups. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 28 2011 04:10 Juicyfruit wrote: I use flat ap glyphs and Quints now. Early levels alot stronger IMO. Quints I can see, but are the early game benefits of glyphs worth the fact that they get outscaled by scaling glyphs by level 6? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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shrode
United States8 Posts
masteries 9/7/14, taking the obvious 9 in offense, specing defense for strength of spirit (so godly for early lane staying power), and then 14 in exp boost, mana regen, and 2 in buff duration I do mpen/clarity/cd blues/apquints for runes, and cleanse/teleport for summoners start with blue crystal and 2 pots and focus on just last hitting. blue pill at 925 gold for catalyst. from there you are basically able to harass at free will and should dominate most solos. next time back get boots and tear and follow with mejais, upgrade to sorc boots, finish banshees, arch staff, deathcap, void staff. works great for me, just need to always be getting blue buff whenever you can. Very blue dependent without any itemized cdr. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
how do you do against carries like corki or MF who have high attack damage combined with other pokes that allow them to shred you to pieces without dshield? imo it would be pretty hard to deal with from levels 1-4 at the very least before you can start doing decent trades with them at 5. i would expect that it would be at least situational to grab dshield vs mana crystal. | ||
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shrode
United States8 Posts
but as far as phys carries go, I haven't had a lot of trouble with MF (SoS + 2 pots keeps me around long enough for 925 usually), she just makes me have to q to last hit a lot more. I haven't played with enough good corkis to tell yet, but so far the worst char to lane against as far as harassment goes might be caitlyn. she is really tough to deal with early so rushing catalyst is not fun. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
also god kills a kitten | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On January 28 2011 07:27 Mogwai wrote: I still stand by speccing Kass as a tank. I think he loses a lot more lanes if he shows up with +15 AP, +28 AP @ 18, +16 Mana Regen @ 18 vs. +97 HP, + 13 MRes, + 13 Armor. What about AP/Mpen/Armor/AP? 24starting AP 13 Armor 8.5mpen HP quints are always good but the 15AP = about 10.5 more Q damage, which will erode the HP advantage eventually. Plus, it accelerates the process of winning the lane when Kassadin is at an advantage  . Mostly all that flat AP is to help Q hit extra hard from the get-go since it will be something like 80 (+17), which is a pretty big increase. Another thing is, against what opponent is the Mres particularly helpful to win? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On January 29 2011 08:31 gtrsrs wrote: every time you use a Q on a creep as kassadin, you push your opponent a little closer to winning the lane also god kills a kitten if you're losing the lane, q'ing creeps is just fine ~.~ | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On January 29 2011 10:31 barbsq wrote: if you're losing the lane, q'ing creeps is just fine ~.~ if you're losing the lane, Q'ing creeps is def not going to make you win the lane, and they're not going to relinquish their lead imo, so i'm p sure my statement still holds true especially the cat part | ||
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