EPT"The Future Of SC2": Unit Skins and Voice Packs - Page 4
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Arcade could be cool. Them thinking about multiplayer content is interesting, but I really hope it is not more units, but massive balance updates ala DotA to reroll the metagame and bring in more and more strategic opportunities. This point sounds very vague and a bit like "if enough people play so that supporting it pays off for us". Don't care about anything else. I guess I'm somewhat negative towards the skin crap if I cannot deactivate it. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:26 Big J wrote: Separate MMR for races in unranked is great, long time overdue. Arcade could be cool. Them thinking about multiplayer content is interesting, but I really hope it is not more units, but massive balance updates ala DotA to reroll the metagame and bring in more and more strategic opportunities. This point sounds very vague and a bit like "if enough people play so that supporting it pays off for us". Don't care about anything else. I guess I'm somewhat negative towards the skin crap if I cannot deactivate it. Big patch after Blizzcon every year with minor patches mid-year would be ideal. But the post-Blizzcon patch in 2013 was one of the worst patches along with the queen patch so it's one of those things they just have to get right or else. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:30 jalstar wrote: Big patch after Blizzcon every year with minor patches mid-year would be ideal. But the post-Blizzcon patch in 2013 was one of the worst patches along with the queen patch so it's one of those things they just have to get right or else. I'm all for large patches with micro-scale changes to everything. But alternatively if they go forward new units, I hope they do some rotation and do not stockpile even more units on top. Because I think we are past the point where more units means more options, and rather more (viable) units means more things to consider in your build order and therefore more streamlining. Like, say they get the game somewhat stable. Then you take that as a starting point for, say, rotating the ghost out for the spectre. And you do that every year and maybe eventually come back to the first build and so on and so on. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:53 Tenks wrote: DKim did say that if they add more units to MP they'll need to contract units which are being too overlapped that's great! | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:30 jalstar wrote: Big patch after Blizzcon every year with minor patches mid-year would be ideal. But the post-Blizzcon patch in 2013 was one of the worst patches along with the queen patch so it's one of those things they just have to get right or else. Agree. A yearly cycle of big design changes after WCS ends while having balance fixes throughout the year, is ideal. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:18 jalstar wrote: thoughts on multiplayer panel: the bronze/silver/gold/etc.1-10 stuff is really good, should be easier to measure progress now, divisions sucked at low levels since most players aren't active enough to have a competitive fight for #1 in the division bonus pool needs to go, it's way too discouraging for players that want to start mid-season demotions need to come back, it won't be too discouraging for low levels i think, in wol you only got demoted at low levels if you went inactive since being active is enough for 90% of players to improve in skill. also it fucks over boosters. the gm thing is good, makes low gm an accomplishment instead of a "you got there first and stayed active" thing Agree completely. | ||
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lestye
United States4243 Posts
On November 07 2015 11:53 Tenks wrote: DKim did say that if they add more units to MP they'll need to contract units which are being too overlapped Oh that's WONDERFUL. That's kinda like the doubt I always have. Can LOTV stand the test of time like BW if they no longer take out or add units if it just isn't working out. If they're willing to do that as a last resort or whatever, I have high hopes. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On November 07 2015 12:00 lestye wrote: Can LOTV stand the test of time like BW if they no longer take out or add units if it just isn't working out. I hope they don't handcuff themselves to "BW did it" with the meta. Yes BW managed to keep a fresh meta without changing anything but maps. Thats great. BW was also a masterpiece and maybe you can't catch that lightning in a bottle a second time. If Blizzard needs to take a heavier hand in shifting the meta via patches I'm fine with that. Just because it isn't something BW didn't do doesn't mean it isn't the right response for SC2. | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1711 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On November 07 2015 13:12 atrox_ wrote: all I want is the ability to in game spectate. Please Blizzard They didn't inspire a ton of confidence in me that they'd get this done when asked about it. I honestly don't know why it is so technically difficult to have a game just stream the replay to a server and have spectators be 10-15s behind. They already have the join-from-replay functionality built in to Heroes of the Storm so the ability to jump into a game via replay is there already. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 07 2015 13:14 Tenks wrote: They didn't inspire a ton of confidence in me that they'd get this done when asked about it. I honestly don't know why it is so technically difficult to have a game just stream the replay to a server and have spectators be 10-15s behind. They already have the join-from-replay functionality built in to Heroes of the Storm so the ability to jump into a game via replay is there already. I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 07 2015 13:14 Tenks wrote: They didn't inspire a ton of confidence in me that they'd get this done when asked about it. I honestly don't know why it is so technically difficult to have a game just stream the replay to a server and have spectators be 10-15s behind. They already have the join-from-replay functionality built in to Heroes of the Storm so the ability to jump into a game via replay is there already. Because when Ladder is your #1 source of practice, spectating pro gamers becomes an invaluable source of information. Once someone smurf is revealed suddenly you've just learned a lot about them. You can't simultaneously have game spectating and ladder as your main source of practice. There was a point early in SC2 development when all GM replays were going to be saved so that they could be viewed by others later. That did not get a good response from people for the reasons I cited. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On November 07 2015 13:42 Plexa wrote: Because when Ladder is your #1 source of practice, spectating pro gamers becomes an invaluable source of information. Once someone smurf is revealed suddenly you've just learned a lot about them. You can't simultaneously have game spectating and ladder as your main source of practice. There was a point early in SC2 development when all GM replays were going to be saved so that they could be viewed by others later. That did not get a good response from people for the reasons I cited. But what if we give people the option to allow spectators or not? That way, people who are good on ladder (or streamers), can allow others to spectate as a way to boost their popularity and build a fan base. Pros on the other hand, can turn off this feature to hide their play style or replays. Have it default to auto-off and anyone who wants to turn it on can do so. I don't see why this would be a bad thing tbh. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
I'm pretty sure it's not. People have been asking for this feature since before SC2 was launch. It's the top unimplemented feature. 5 years later, zero progress. The engine is not capable of it, because the game is saved as a sequence of instructions rather than as the current state. At best, they'll use some hacky work-around, like resume from replay. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
I'm so glad stuff like this is starting to happen, though I think it's at least 2 years too late. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
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