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LotV Beta Balance Update — September 3 2015 - Page 7

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Ozmodeus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States24 Posts
September 04 2015 07:07 GMT
#121
a sad day for sc2...more sadness otw
live and let lie
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
September 04 2015 07:08 GMT
#122
Really don't like they are automating, I thought most people disliked it?
At this rate I probably won't buy the game if this is the direction they're going.
Anyway how come the terran mule ability got least lerfed while also being able to drop down supply depots at the same time, how is that gonna be balanced?
Sure very lategame mules got nerfed a lot but I don't think you'll be able to survive that far vs terran now.
Also bit disappointed for no liberator nerf
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 07:09:48
September 04 2015 07:09 GMT
#123
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
September 04 2015 07:15 GMT
#124
Touche. now DT will stab both of my kidneys
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
September 04 2015 07:18 GMT
#125
cannon rushes are coming back
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
September 04 2015 07:21 GMT
#126
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
September 04 2015 07:22 GMT
#127
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
September 04 2015 07:24 GMT
#128
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
September 04 2015 07:25 GMT
#129
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?


They will just claim that it's ready.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 04 2015 07:30 GMT
#130
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?

Ehm, do you remember in what state Wings were released? How many balance patches followed? :-) They will release it once the release date is on. The game is too big from a single player perspective to delay it because of multiplayer which is played by a fraction of total fan base.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 07:35:23
September 04 2015 07:31 GMT
#131
On September 04 2015 16:25 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?


They will just claim that it's ready.

Yeah, because we are talking about Ubisoft or EA... Oh, wait, we are not.

We still don't have official info on the release date... Complain when we have it.
On September 04 2015 16:30 deacon.frost wrote:

Ehm, do you remember in what state Wings were released? How many balance patches followed? :-) They will release it once the release date is on. The game is too big from a single player perspective to delay it because of multiplayer which is played by a fraction of total fan base.

Yeah man, but you still dont have release date. I don't get it. Why complain when you don't know for certain... Just wait and see. Next week we will know, If they say that it will be released november no matter what, I will be on the same ship. But for now we just don't know.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 07:38:46
September 04 2015 07:38 GMT
#132
On September 04 2015 16:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:25 KeksX wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?


They will just claim that it's ready.

Yeah, because we are talking about Ubisoft or EA... Oh, wait, we are not.

We still don't have official info on the release date... Complain when we have it.


Yeah because only Ubisoft and EA can make mistakes. Remember that Blizzard still has investors and with WoW breaking down they have to please those.

It already made the news that SC2 will releae in 2015. It'd be pretty bad for Blizzard if that changes.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 04 2015 07:41 GMT
#133
Too many gimmicks such as Pylon Overcharge and spells in this, why dont they just stick core mechanics of the game and make it an RTS, remove Warp gate and force field and adjust it from there for instance
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 04 2015 07:43 GMT
#134
On September 04 2015 16:18 ChriS-X wrote:
cannon rushes are coming back

MSc comes out way too late relative to other attacking units for it to be an issue.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 04 2015 07:50 GMT
#135
On September 04 2015 16:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:25 KeksX wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?


They will just claim that it's ready.

Yeah, because we are talking about Ubisoft or EA... Oh, wait, we are not.

We still don't have official info on the release date... Complain when we have it.
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:30 deacon.frost wrote:

Ehm, do you remember in what state Wings were released? How many balance patches followed? :-) They will release it once the release date is on. The game is too big from a single player perspective to delay it because of multiplayer which is played by a fraction of total fan base.

Yeah man, but you still dont have release date. I don't get it. Why complain when you don't know for certain... Just wait and see. Next week we will know, If they say that it will be released november no matter what, I will be on the same ship. But for now we just don't know.

I am not complaining, I am just saying that they will release the game even with unbalanced MP. I will spend first few weeks of LotV playing the SP anyway :-)

Also, they announced that LotV will be released this year. If the don't want to postpone this(doubt it, Christmas and the last part of the story? $_$) it is released before the Proleague starts(this PL started in the 3rd week of December(or the last? not sure now)) and after the Blizzcon. Which gives you a good estimation when it is released :-)

But they can delay it the same way XCOM 2 is delayed
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
September 04 2015 07:51 GMT
#136
On September 04 2015 16:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:18 ChriS-X wrote:
cannon rushes are coming back

MSc comes out way too late relative to other attacking units for it to be an issue.

I would bet my life on it that players like sOs and Parting will find a way to add it to the great book
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
September 04 2015 07:55 GMT
#137
On September 04 2015 16:41 Topdoller wrote:
Too many gimmicks such as Pylon Overcharge and spells in this, why dont they just stick core mechanics of the game and make it an RTS, remove Warp gate and force field and adjust it from there for instance

Yes, let's ruin Protoss even more by removing core mechanics that outside of a vocal minority most Protoss players enjoy.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 04 2015 07:55 GMT
#138
On September 04 2015 16:51 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:43 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:18 ChriS-X wrote:
cannon rushes are coming back

MSc comes out way too late relative to other attacking units for it to be an issue.

I would bet my life on it that players like sOs and Parting will find a way to add it to the great book

You can always go 10 ga... oh, tricky question

Once the game is standardized other races start to open more greedy and then BAM! In your face!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
AdrianHealeyy
Profile Joined June 2015
114 Posts
September 04 2015 08:08 GMT
#139
Yet again; interesting changes, no need to be overtly dramatic.

The buff for ravager is nice, but I don't think such a big buff was necessary. The nerf to drops is sad.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 04 2015 08:28 GMT
#140
On September 04 2015 16:30 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 16:24 Pr0wler wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:21 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 04 2015 16:09 Pr0wler wrote:
Just remove the fucking "MMs"... Why did they bring them back ? And where the fuck this photon overchage change came from ??? You can use it on pylons ? But why ??? Blizzard seems completely lost, just when I thought that they are on the right path.
This game will not be released this year, that is for sure.


Dude, game is being released in Nov at the latest, given that we'll have a release date announced next week. But will the Multiplayer be ready? Probably not, it's still getting released regardless though.

It's Blizzard. They will release it when it's ready. And the game is not ready for sure. We still don't have official release date, so I don't know why you think that it will be november. What are your sources ?

Ehm, do you remember in what state Wings were released? How many balance patches followed? :-) They will release it once the release date is on. The game is too big from a single player perspective to delay it because of multiplayer which is played by a fraction of total fan base.


Erh... Balance is not the problem yet as Blizzard not sure what do with MM. We are still at design issue.
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