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Legacy of the Void Beta Patch 2.5.2 - Page 6

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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 27 2015 22:23 GMT
#101
I don't quite understand Blizzard's intention to make Starport an autonomous tech path. They have no reliable air-to-ground units and starports are expensive infrastructure, especially since you need a tech lab for almost everything useful. Starting upgrades will be very late too. Terran already has the bio vs mech division, now it will be bio vs mech vs sky? Meanwhile none of the other races function like this, and I'm fairly certain sky terran will never exist as Blizzard envisioned it unless they make it really strong and force you to eventually transition into this for the late-game. But then it still won't exist for the early and mid-game.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
May 27 2015 22:31 GMT
#102
You guys are calling if the server(s) come(s) online, am i right?
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Anvil666
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany122 Posts
May 27 2015 22:46 GMT
#103
On May 28 2015 06:22 Feisty wrote:
I'm not playing the beta again until they fix the minimap. Getting my mineral line cleared by disruptor drop's because I can't see the minimap and react is dumb.


"Mini-map: Units and buildings on the mini-map have a black border around them once again." Enjoy the beta!
Frakkofff
Profile Joined May 2014
Russian Federation66 Posts
May 27 2015 22:52 GMT
#104
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 27 2015 22:58 GMT
#105
I like how shamelessly powerful the unit looks in the video.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#106
Even the Liberator's video is lame :/
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
May 27 2015 23:21 GMT
#107
On May 28 2015 08:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Even the Liberator's video is lame :/


Yeah all the units were just standing and shooting, it didn't look fun or exciting at all ._.
ohmylanta1003
Profile Joined February 2015
United States128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 00:18:20
May 27 2015 23:26 GMT
#108
On May 28 2015 06:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 06:41 RoomOfMush wrote:
Whats with all the pitch forks and torches? I dont understand how you people can repeat the same negative feedback in every. Single. Thread.

We'll stop giving negetive feedback when what we say in our feedback starts being addressed


Literally impossible. No matter what Blizzard does, people bitch and moan about it until their fucking fingers fall off.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 23:32:56
May 27 2015 23:31 GMT
#109
On May 28 2015 08:21 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 08:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Even the Liberator's video is lame :/


Yeah all the units were just standing and shooting, it didn't look fun or exciting at all ._.

You guys realise its just a demonstration what to expect from this Unit? If you want to see it in real battles go play the beta (if you have it).

Looks interesting. Patch notes and the video. The only thing I dislike is how there is yet another option for Bio to counter Siege Tanks. As if Medivacs and Marauders aren´t enough (or are Marauders not that strong vs Tanks anymore with the new attack) ? But I guess the situation looks different if there are some Vikings involved. But the battle vs Protss Armies were nice. Looks like you don´t Vikings that much anymore.

I really wanna play the Beta.
Extreme Force
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 23:42:03
May 27 2015 23:41 GMT
#110
On May 28 2015 06:41 RoomOfMush wrote:
Whats with all the pitch forks and torches? I dont understand how you people can repeat the same negative feedback in every. Single. Thread.


You should adopt my policy.

Post a bit long? Ctrl f.

COUNTER PLAY

DESIGN

CONTRACTION OF TIME

BROODWAR

UNIT INTERACTIONS

If one of these words is present, you know the post isnt worth your time.
KaZeFenrir
Profile Joined July 2014
United States37 Posts
May 27 2015 23:47 GMT
#111
I still find it hilarious as hell that every new unit has been about adding back an old bw unit. WoL was this huge change! They removed or reworked all these units into something new, basically saying "we aren't going to just redo bw with better graphics!"

Then hots came out and it was like "okay so maybe we needed firebats, mines, devourer, lurkers, and the goliath?"

Now lotv is coming and they're like "Uh crap. Okay okay so maybe we also needed Valkyries and Scarabs too? And it really looks like we should have just added the real Lurker last game too.. Man that Warhound Goliath thing didn't work out last time. Let's do that again, better this time."

But it's cool! We have three totally new unit in the form of the Swarm Host, Oracle, and Tempest! All units most people hate. And now we get the Adept and Ravager too. We see how those work out.

As for the changes.. I dunno. I feel like blizzard is about as done with SC as most of us are? I feel like for Zerg they could have done more with burrow, not just make it easier to obtain. I don't mind them reverting mech and air upgrades, though I hate the Turret reversion. There are enough high tier harass options that making it Barracks requirement wouldn't be changing too much in the way of early game harass. Overall I think Terran will get a massive change since too many units overlap, Zerg kind of has nothing now, and Protoss still seems too finicky.

We'll see what happens. Also the liberator looks stupid. They could have rally done more with the design, especially the the transformation. Maybe it has a cockpit and when it changes to ag mode the front splits, and the cockpit lowers onto the guns or something? If they're gonna push the transformation stuff, do it cool at least.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 27 2015 23:48 GMT
#112
What the fuck happened to the chat system, are you actually kidding me right now
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 27 2015 23:59 GMT
#113
I like the new unit. Not everything needs to be fast and require micro to be exciting. Liberator could help diverse the Terran gameplay a bit and make transitions from bio to sky terran easier without the need of many factory units since it could be used as a flying siege tank.

Still waiting for that beta access though so i'm not sure about the state of the beta, maybe all the people complaining are right.
All I do is Stim.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
May 27 2015 23:59 GMT
#114
On May 28 2015 08:48 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
What the fuck happened to the chat system, are you actually kidding me right now


We now have reddit right in the game!!
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
May 28 2015 00:01 GMT
#115
On May 28 2015 08:31 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 08:21 Lexender wrote:
On May 28 2015 08:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Even the Liberator's video is lame :/


Yeah all the units were just standing and shooting, it didn't look fun or exciting at all ._.

You guys realise its just a demonstration what to expect from this Unit? If you want to see it in real battles go play the beta (if you have it).

Looks interesting. Patch notes and the video. The only thing I dislike is how there is yet another option for Bio to counter Siege Tanks. As if Medivacs and Marauders aren´t enough (or are Marauders not that strong vs Tanks anymore with the new attack) ? But I guess the situation looks different if there are some Vikings involved. But the battle vs Protss Armies were nice. Looks like you don´t Vikings that much anymore.

I really wanna play the Beta.


From the liberator video, the battle versus the Protoss army only looked nice because the Protoss army walked into a Terran defensive concave while the liberators were given time to siege. Realistically, the liberators would've been torn from the sky the moment the engagement happened. Offensively, the liberators would've died before they would have a chance to siege.

At least, that's what would happen with a colossi-based army. I wonder if it'll be a good viking-ghost intermediary should the Protoss transition from colossi to storm.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 28 2015 00:04 GMT
#116
Er, I can't get into the game anymore? It's stuck on "Preparing game data" wtf
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
May 28 2015 00:05 GMT
#117
So now we got banshees and liberators to hurt the mineral lines Q_Q

Oh well, the ground attack is different than I originally thought. Looks interesting, excited to see how it works out.

Though the whole splash vs air thing appears to be something that is going to hurt protoss again.

I really hope that behind the scenes they are doing a lot of work on protoss viability because they still seem to be doing poorly in LotV atm.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 28 2015 00:06 GMT
#118
new chat system doing work and making progress
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
May 28 2015 00:07 GMT
#119
On May 28 2015 09:01 Spect8rCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 08:31 Tresher wrote:
On May 28 2015 08:21 Lexender wrote:
On May 28 2015 08:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Even the Liberator's video is lame :/


Yeah all the units were just standing and shooting, it didn't look fun or exciting at all ._.

You guys realise its just a demonstration what to expect from this Unit? If you want to see it in real battles go play the beta (if you have it).

Looks interesting. Patch notes and the video. The only thing I dislike is how there is yet another option for Bio to counter Siege Tanks. As if Medivacs and Marauders aren´t enough (or are Marauders not that strong vs Tanks anymore with the new attack) ? But I guess the situation looks different if there are some Vikings involved. But the battle vs Protss Armies were nice. Looks like you don´t Vikings that much anymore.

I really wanna play the Beta.


From the liberator video, the battle versus the Protoss army only looked nice because the Protoss army walked into a Terran defensive concave while the liberators were given time to siege. Realistically, the liberators would've been torn from the sky the moment the engagement happened. Offensively, the liberators would've died before they would have a chance to siege.

At least, that's what would happen with a colossi-based army. I wonder if it'll be a good viking-ghost intermediary should the Protoss transition from colossi to storm.


Yeah thats the problem, this unit is a lot like the disruptor in the fact that either the enemy walks into the are and does amazing damage or it just walks around the huge red dot and does jackshit, theres one diference tho you can atleast control a disruptor and pick it up with a warp prism, the only thing you can do with this is transform it back and forth.

Now I'm not against siege unit, I know how siege unit works, the thing is siege units are made aroun space control and terrain, this is just like the tempest another flying unit that shouldn't be like that.

I don't care wheter is OP or not that can be balance, the thing is that I don't see it something actually good for gameplay, I kinda (just kinda) see why Blizzard gave the AtG since they want stargate to be a viable tech tree in its own, its just that I don't think this was the better way to go about it (or if even having each building a composition in itself its actually a good idea but thats another story)
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
May 28 2015 00:08 GMT
#120
On May 28 2015 09:06 Masq wrote:
new chat system doing work and making progress


Not sure if I am THAT excited for it. It will match the Heroes chat which is ok but I do like the chat windows.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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