• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:46
CEST 10:46
KST 17:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach2[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon102Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11774 users

Legacy of the Void Beta Patch 2.5.2 - Page 4

Forum Index > Legacy of the Void
483 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 23 24 25 Next All
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
May 27 2015 20:50 GMT
#61
I am most excited about the new chat system..
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 27 2015 20:53 GMT
#62
Perhaps OP wants to add this the the OP


http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/19451932

Still miffed about these changes, LotV is turning out to be super disappointing
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 27 2015 21:00 GMT
#63
On May 28 2015 05:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Perhaps OP wants to add this the the OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJaQILPIvt0
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/19451932

Still miffed about these changes, LotV is turning out to be super disappointing


Still looks like that thing that shoots out Hulk-Buster parts in avengers 2 when its in its AtG mode
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
May 27 2015 21:03 GMT
#64
On May 28 2015 05:31 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
Corruptor
Reverted ability to Corruption but now can be auto-cast.

Oh, interesting, I wonder if Blizzard read this post of mine:

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 05:46 Grumbels wrote:
In Warcraft 3 you had specific hotkeys for each of your heroes, many abilities could be auto-casted and with limited unit selection you were forced to create separate control groups already. And fights would last longer so you had more time to cast the spells. In contrast, some of the concerns with active abilities in Starcraft 2 are related to the interface and specifically the tabbing system. You have the power to select your entire army with one convenient hotkey, but to actually use those abilities you have to go through a cumbersome process of tabbing just the right number of times.

There are other RTS games where all hotkeys are global, that is to say that if you hit "G" you might always activate guardian shield for all sentries in your control group. Of course this can't be simply adapted to Starcraft 2 but it's an example of an approach that acknowledges the fact that abilities can contribute positively to the game and that tries to make them accessible to players.
There are also abilities that could be given auto-cast, like the void ray's prismatic alignment. You can still activate manually for correct usage, but you wouldn't have to stress out during fights because you had to cycle through all your abilities quickly.

These are examples of ideas that Blizzard could employ to allow users to better navigate through a game infested with abilities. Because adding abilities comes at a cost of requiring ability upkeep in battles, which starts to drown out real micro.


I'm actually in favor of adding auto-cast to the game to make abilities more manageable. I didn't mention corruption in my post because the ability didn't exist at the time, but alongside prismatic alignment it's a prime candidate for an auto-cast feature.


Why not just buff the units core stat. I don't really see how it has different implications here.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 27 2015 21:07 GMT
#65
Holy fuck their dmg seems insane, both air and ground. I wonder how expensive it is?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3303 Posts
May 27 2015 21:11 GMT
#66
Even more clutter on the screen.
T P Z sagi
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
May 27 2015 21:12 GMT
#67
On May 28 2015 05:47 virpi wrote:
I hate all those abilities. I want units that have cool movement and get better when they are microed properly. Like marines, lings, stalkers, phoenix... If I wanted to play whack-an-ability, I'd play another game.
Well, as a zerg player I'm still kind of lucky. I tried playing protoss in the beta and it felt like I was playing Warcraft in space. :/

On May 28 2015 05:45 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
Reverted ability to Corruption but now can be auto-cast.
Make a choice, ability or no ability, not half . An autocast abiliy make no sense in a "starcraft" game.

The difference between an auto-casted ability and an attack is partly just semantics. Medivac/medic heal and baneling explode are equal part auto-cast abilities and attack. An auto-casted corruption is not that dissimilar from a passive effect on the corruption attack. Auto-cast makes some ability designs available that could be otherwise too troublesome to use.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
May 27 2015 21:13 GMT
#68
On May 28 2015 06:07 HolydaKing wrote:
Holy fuck their dmg seems insane, both air and ground. I wonder how expensive it is?


Is this a trick question? 150/150/2
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 27 2015 21:18 GMT
#69
Since we need one of these in every patch

Poll: Are you pleased at the overall direction of these changes?

No, we need to focus on other aspects (69)
 
86%

Yes (11)
 
14%

80 total votes

Your vote: Are you pleased at the overall direction of these changes?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No, we need to focus on other aspects

Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Feisty
Profile Joined December 2013
Vatican City State35 Posts
May 27 2015 21:22 GMT
#70
I'm not playing the beta again until they fix the minimap. Getting my mineral line cleared by disruptor drop's because I can't see the minimap and react is dumb.
Polt why so God
Merkmerk
Profile Joined August 2010
United States96 Posts
May 27 2015 21:23 GMT
#71
Not really happy with a beta patch that just reverts a bunch of stuff to LOTV.

I also really didn't feel like Terran needed a new unit at all.
Yodeleihelaihee
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 27 2015 21:25 GMT
#72
I would rather have turrets available to be built after barracks to get rid of coin flip TvP than have the Liberator in the game. That's how bad of a change it is to not allow Terran to have defense against proxy oracles.

So, anyone else wondering how that eco testing is going? DH9/DH10 any1? All my expectations are pretty much gone for LOTV =/
Sup
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10085 Posts
May 27 2015 21:32 GMT
#73
how are you supposed to counter the liberator? it has insane range vs ground and destroys air units
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#74
On May 28 2015 06:25 avilo wrote:
I would rather have turrets available to be built after barracks to get rid of coin flip TvP than have the Liberator in the game. That's how bad of a change it is to not allow Terran to have defense against proxy oracles.

So, anyone else wondering how that eco testing is going? DH9/DH10 any1? All my expectations are pretty much gone for LOTV =/

The Econ testing seems to be done man. half mineral fields at 60% seems to be their desired changed.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
May 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#75
At this point all they are doing are pretty much polishing the game (getting rid of bugs).
Ultimately is their game and seems they are happy with it, like it or not.
nesmah
Profile Joined October 2012
France26 Posts
May 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#76
GOD !

They kept the turret available with the rax !!!

This is fu&#ing great !

No more reaper expo into 3 rax or reaper expo into WM drop in TvP. We'll gona try other opener with this (cyclone first, drop tank) without be hard counter by a (proxy) stargate opener.

Thx blizz.
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
May 27 2015 21:34 GMT
#77
The social changes are awesome and long overdue.

The game changes are pretty meh, I'd like to try alternatives rather than tweaks.

The Liberator worries me, Protoss is fairly dependent on Stargate units (carrier=new colossus imo) and this Liberator concept looks like a very sharp counter to all things air.

Might be a really good thing though, Terran (whisper it) feels a little weak to me.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
May 27 2015 21:35 GMT
#78
i am hoping for the extreme changes... soon tm
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 21:37:44
May 27 2015 21:36 GMT
#79
So the Liberator is essentially the Valkyrie but it can also shoot ground if it wants to. Blizzard keeps making units that are basically BW copies almost, it seems like :\
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
bosshdt
Profile Joined April 2015
Afghanistan98 Posts
May 27 2015 21:37 GMT
#80
i like this
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 23 24 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 923
soO 429
Hyuk 416
Mini 220
ZerO 138
Killer 61
Shinee 49
Mind 34
Bale 28
Mong 24
[ Show more ]
PianO 22
Terrorterran 14
ZergMaN 12
yabsab 10
HiyA 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 749
XcaliburYe336
League of Legends
JimRising 447
Counter-Strike
byalli550
Other Games
olofmeister886
ceh9639
Happy372
Livibee194
crisheroes191
Mew2King67
ArmadaUGS61
ZerO(Twitch)7
singsing4
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH372
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2296
League of Legends
• Jankos1351
• Rush1222
• Stunt459
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 14m
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
2h 14m
Monday Night Weeklies
7h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
1d 15h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.