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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#41
Damn it, the colossus in the banner got me excited it was being removed or being overhauled xD.

Adept and Lurker changes, yay.

Everything else, nay.
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leny100
Profile Joined May 2012
20 Posts
April 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#42
On April 15 2015 06:21 THERIDDLER wrote:
Remove disruptor, give reaver.
Protoss fixed



Reaver has no place in this game, maybe you should play BW if you like is so much?
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
April 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#43
On April 15 2015 06:22 padiseal2 wrote:

@%user_name% Like many systems, it's something that the developers have their eyes on and we hope to share more as the beta goes on.

Perfect answer template
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
April 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#44
On April 15 2015 06:22 padiseal2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/588077738268962817

Seems like a bullshit response
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 14 2015 21:29 GMT
#45
As someone without a beta key and without having watched any LotV streams, I'm getting a good feel from these changes. Except the Tempest ability. That has always been lame, and I want them to try something else.
Flash | Mvp
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 14 2015 21:30 GMT
#46
I added polls to the OP. Go express your opinions non-verbally or textually now!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 14 2015 21:31 GMT
#47
On April 15 2015 06:25 Cheeseling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:22 padiseal2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/588077738268962817

@%user_name% Like many systems, it's something that the developers have their eyes on and we hope to share more as the beta goes on.

Perfect answer template

Haha i thought the same :D
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robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:34:09
April 14 2015 21:32 GMT
#48
I'm really dissapointed. Without even talking specifics, I got the impression that they were going to try a few radically different builds of the game, decide what worked best, and go from there. Instead they've tried one and are going back to minor tweaks to see if they can balance it.


This stage should be more about design that balance. The immortal tweak is a pretty lame attempt to help protoss with ravagers and what's worse, it's essentially back tracking. And yeah, the fact that they didn't even comment on the economy is pretty sad.

Edit: at least they're trying with the lurker
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
April 14 2015 21:32 GMT
#49
man these are some pointless changes
can i get my estro logo back pls
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 14 2015 21:33 GMT
#50
On April 15 2015 06:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I added polls to the OP. Go express your opinions non-verbally or textually now!

Can you perhaps add a general poll? Something like: “Do you like the general direction of those changes? Yes/No/IDK”
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 14 2015 21:33 GMT
#51
The toss changes are okay but I dont see it being super impactful :/ or helping us where we need it most as toss right now
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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
April 14 2015 21:34 GMT
#52
On April 15 2015 06:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I added polls to the OP. Go express your opinions non-verbally or textually now!

Can you perhaps add a general poll? Something like: “Do you like the general direction of those changes? Yes/No/IDK”

I approve
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Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
April 14 2015 21:34 GMT
#53
On April 15 2015 06:29 Ctesias wrote:
As someone without a beta key and without having watched any LotV streams, I'm getting a good feel from these changes. Except the Tempest ability. That has always been lame, and I want them to try something else.


The best part is that Battlecruiser has exactly 550 HP so disintegrate can snipe 400/300/90 6 supply units. Can it get any more retarded?
blastyblast21
Profile Joined January 2013
United States61 Posts
April 14 2015 21:35 GMT
#54
I like most of these changes especially to the lurker and adept making them more viable. I think the cyclone change is not enough and needs to not have autocast or a longer cooldown. I think these changes are going in the right direction
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
April 14 2015 21:36 GMT
#55
On April 15 2015 05:51 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:46 TT1 wrote:
i like the adept change, its gonna be a much more viable middgame unit vs bio terran (an area where protoss was lacking in after the collo nerf).


It's not bad per se, it's just beyond insane that it's the only thing we get along the immortal buff (which is not important since you can still count to two after the shield activates and focus the immortal later). Adepts are cute and all but they certainly cant make up for how terrible protoss overall is in the current economic model. I mean, the balance is so horrible that many protoss as well as players of other races are outright refusing to play the beta...


give it some time, the games only been out for like a week now. ive spoken to dkim and hes well aware of all these issues (including how protoss doesnt benefit as much as the other races from the new eco change).
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:38:24
April 14 2015 21:37 GMT
#56
I am in awe how people expected EVERYTHING to be changed after 1 week. Beta will last for like 6 months, after it LotV will probably look completely different. Outside of Tempest and Cyclone changes, which don't make sense, I am fine with other 3 changes(maybe Oracle shouldn't be able to cancel teleport). Did they change enough? Not even close, but are they changing things? Yes, they are.

On April 15 2015 06:36 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:51 Teoita wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:46 TT1 wrote:
i like the adept change, its gonna be a much more viable middgame unit vs bio terran (an area where protoss was lacking in after the collo nerf).


It's not bad per se, it's just beyond insane that it's the only thing we get along the immortal buff (which is not important since you can still count to two after the shield activates and focus the immortal later). Adepts are cute and all but they certainly cant make up for how terrible protoss overall is in the current economic model. I mean, the balance is so horrible that many protoss as well as players of other races are outright refusing to play the beta...


give it some time, the games only been out for like a week now. ive spoken to dkim and hes well aware of all these issues (including how protoss doesnt benefit as much as the other races from the new eco change).

Yeah, exactly this...
Tournaments aren't happening tomorrow guys, the world isn't falling apart.
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Bepo
Profile Joined April 2015
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:40:09
April 14 2015 21:38 GMT
#57
12 range doesn't change much in early game...it will still just lock in and just right click towards/away til every unit is dead

Make it slower, disable auto cast, less health, loses lock on when you don't have vision, etc. just pick one or two of those
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
April 14 2015 21:41 GMT
#58
On April 15 2015 06:37 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I am in awe how people expected EVERYTHING to be changed after 1 week.


Totally agree.

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 14 2015 21:43 GMT
#59
Thank you for the extra poll, SGTK.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:48:37
April 14 2015 21:43 GMT
#60
On April 15 2015 05:36 Teoita wrote:
Lurker change is pointless. Cyclones are still dumb. Adepts are still worthless. I dont know how the fuck they decided to change the Tempest of all things since Protoss cant survive to late game anyway


Basically this. The sad thing is, the lurker is already incredibly good. The only reason they buffed it is because there is something more OP currently being used? wtf? why no nerf to ravagers? Do they really think cyclones are going to be any less strong with this change? Tempests...? TEMPESTS? LOL WHAT?! WHO IS ON THIS BALANCE COMMITTEE?

The last few days the beta has seen a huge drop in players and streamers due to it simply being a waste of effort at this point. Far too many things are going to HAVE to change if players are to get interested/invest time in it again, especially in light of WCS. So, for them to still be tiptoeing around like this is really worrisome.

Hopefully they get on the ball... @_@;;

On April 15 2015 06:41 fruity. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:37 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I am in awe how people expected EVERYTHING to be changed after 1 week.


Totally agree.



BlizzCon 2014 held on November 7 and 8, 2014.
Beta released over 2 weeks ago.

It didn't take anyone 2 weeks to realize how broken the cyclone or ravager was. It certainly didn't take 6(?) months as a few players won a showmatch using essentially that one unit... lol

On April 15 2015 06:37 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Yeah, exactly this...
Tournaments aren't happening tomorrow guys, the world isn't falling apart.


Many have already happened. Some including premier teams and players for hundreds++ of dollars. We all get that they are just for fun, but it is kind of depressing when you are a person participating in the beta and have literally no chance at playing in any of them simply due to race. @_@;;
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