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Patch 10.18: Live on Sep. 2, 2020
Team Fight Tactics Patch 10.18 Live on Sep. 2, 2020
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- I did not know that Shyv E in Dragon form had a scaling radius.
- Twitch AP buffs, this is such a troll change. Don't think anyone seriously builds Rageblade on him because his passive isn't as powerful as Vayne/Kog, you typically go BotRK into crit, or just straight into crit. At least the ult got a buff.
- Guardian nerf is pretty huge, it lost like 25% of it's shielding power.
- Another Ezreal skin, the money machine is still running.
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Nobody understood shyv's E radius and I can't blame them. hoping you can acutally see it now, but I'll curb my enthusiasm.
Is Ahri actually buffed? I know it's supposed to be one but 1) it didn't fix any of her issues imo 2) the movespeed is a sidegrade and now tied to her worst skill 3) with increased CD and mana cost, W is still her worst skill 4) random health regen nerf when it's now less consistent to heal with passive too, since W or E (worst case) can eat up the heal passive now
idk feels like a nerf or at best a side-grade. I guess you can cast W without targets for the MS so you can get back to feeding faster.
Ashe nerf but not Cait, what?
shit patch except for the skins desu
As for tft, i find it really weird that they put such a crazy galaxy in such an anemic patch at the tail end of the set... not sure what the goal is here.
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- Ahri no longer gains 20% bonus movement speed for 3 seconds when she lands 2 ability hits against a champion within 1.5 seconds
- W now grants a burst of 40% movement speed decaying over 1.5 seconds at cast
I think it's an improvement, not a sidegrade. Her W is still her worst skill, but it's actually useful now, which justifies giving it a higher cost. With that said, I agree that the changes didn't fix any of her issues, unless being unable to reliably last hit with W counts as one.
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Ahri mana costs are still too high for their use case. Maybe the W can improve her last hit enough to give her enough waveclear early to push without wasting all her mana.
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Ahri is a budget LB, you won't be seeing her in competitive with these buffs, or even high elo. Her biggest weaknesses remain, namely low kill potential without ult and poor scaling (Ahri needs her full combo, so 3 ult procs, to kill an ADC lategame, that's like 4+ seconds of combat): if she falls behind she becomes super useless. Mana costs are high, that is true
She has such poor numbers because her ultimate is incredibly powerful, sure she can't blow you up in 1s but it's hard to escape from a fed Ahri with 3 dashes. Remember when Faker dumpstered entire teams with her? So they nerfed every single number on her, and now she's inferior to new champions.
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Been playing some Set 4 TFT on pbe, and legit I hate the chosen mechanic. I think it's supposed to make you do different stuff every game and not follow guides, but as someone who always kind of plays what the lobby gives me, really it just kind of hamstrings you; if you don't pick the early game chosen you just hard lose streak all game, and a lot of times you can't just play a comp around your chosen because it's highly contested.
It feels a lot like a lot of times you don't really have a winning option, or alternatively if you get a strong early carry you're just kind of guaranteed top 2.
Mages also need some clear rework or rebalancing. Annie for example is literally unkillable with double cast. 2* Annie with a single defensive item and 3 mages ends up legit finishing every fight with a 2k shield from the front line. Lol. Then Ahri legit one shots stuff all game.
Also, 5cost units suck compared to set 3. I had a 3star Sett and legit got 4th.
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On September 04 2020 04:39 iCanada wrote:
Been playing some Set 4 TFT on pbe, and legit I hate the chosen mechanic. I think it's supposed to make you do different stuff every game and not follow guides, but as someone who always kind of plays what the lobby gives me, really it just kind of hamstrings you; if you don't pick the early game chosen you just hard lose streak all game, and a lot of times you can't just play a comp around your chosen because it's highly contested.
It feels a lot like a lot of times you don't really have a winning option, or alternatively if you get a strong early carry you're just kind of guaranteed top 2.
Mages also need some clear rework or rebalancing. Annie for example is literally unkillable with double cast. 2* Annie with a single defensive item and 3 mages ends up legit finishing every fight with a 2k shield from the front line. Lol. Then Ahri legit one shots stuff all game.
Also, 5cost units suck compared to set 3. I had a 3star Sett and legit got 4th.
I'm a bit torn about the chosen mechanic too, you can chance into some rediculous early game with it or just get completely fucked over if you find horrible chosens while an opponents find strong. They can lead to some pretty interesting games tho.
I kind of like the 5cost units arent as overpoweringly good as they were in the previous sets. Feel like you have to need the support for them to really pop off instead of just putting them on board without any real synergies or supportive units. Spatula items can make them insanely strong. Mage Ezreal and Assassin Lee Sin are both pretty hilarious.
But whatever comp you play, just blue buff a Yuumi and roll a 3* Hecarim. That pair can legit 2vX when stacked.
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I feel like Ahri and Vi are eternally doomed because of how good their ults make them in low elo
Twitch buffs are meme/meaningless, e buff needs no explanation, ult buff is just like it’s a big buff but if you’re hitting multiple champions with his ult last patch and not getting one shot you win the fight. He needs lane or survival buffs for his general power level to change.
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The next time I get Twitch in ARAM, I will test on hit AP build and see if you can do something with the E buff, but I don't think it's anything less than a troll change.
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I just learned Yone is supposed to be pronounced Yoney. Wth, this is as intuitive as Illaoi's pronounciation...
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I think (even though the game takes place in a fictional universe) it’s because the character is Japanese? Japanese letters are pairs of Roman letters. So reading a Japanese name in English you would read it two letters at a time.
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Mythic items eh? Patch 10.20 is going to be spiiicy.
Over under on how many Ezreal will hard abuse and nerf out of the game? I'ma say 5.
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On September 05 2020 06:05 Slusher wrote:
I feel like Ahri and Vi are eternally doomed because of how good their ults make them in low elo
Twitch buffs are meme/meaningless, e buff needs no explanation, ult buff is just like it’s a big buff but if you’re hitting multiple champions with his ult last patch and not getting one shot you win the fight. He needs lane or survival buffs for his general power level to change.
I feel like she still isn't great in lategame for low elo. A change where charm's vulnerability scales with rank or AP would mean you could still blow up a target in a Ult-E-QW.
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I agree she’s pretty bad at the moment but if she approaches balanced she owns in silver / gold
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I feel like she still isn't great in lategame for low elo. A change where charm's vulnerability scales with rank or AP would mean you could still blow up a target in a Ult-E-QW.
Ahri has very poor scaling late. Yeah, her full combo can kill most carries, but it takes like 3 seconds and you have to hit 6 abilities which is just unrealistic. If you just hit someone with E and Q, you dent them for less than half their health. Compare that to LB Q and W, which is like 50% of your health once she has Rabadons.
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Still better than when she could kill people with just 3xR + W at some point.
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Oh yeah, not complaining. The days of DFG Ahri and friends was not a good time for anyone with sub 2000 HP. But right now he kit is awful, mainly because her numbers are far below comparable champs.
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Right, they just need to properly reward hitting the EQ combo. OR you have to give her more control of space by remaking W into something like Jinx Chompers, Trouble Bubble, or Miasma. I mean, realistically we know they want to make it a skillshot anyways, they want all the skillshots, so that's a way to do what they already want without killing the theme of Ahri.
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It’s basically a skill shot because they need to be charmed for it to do decent damage. Honestly the glacial slow bot build would probably be playable as is if they changed her passive from a flat heal to a % vamp. She could abuse the new minion execute in the same way Caitlyn abuses minion headshot + dblade to become an immovable laner.
Not sure if that’s good for the game or interesting though
My buff would probably be to have outward Q do true damage to charmed targets, the anti synergy between her ult and charm and needed q return for high damage is what makes her so unthreatening.
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So uhhh.... I just played some tryhard ARAM for the first time in a long long time...
Why does Leblanc 1 shot things without ult and take zero damage? is that supposed to be a thing or is my LB play just godlike?
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LB has an average winrate because people don't know how to play her on ARAM. There are many broken champs who suffer the same problem, despite being crazy broken. Yes, she doesn't need ult to kill most champions on ARAM because her buffs mean her double Q alone is over 75% of a champion's health with two items. All of your 3 skill combos should be able to kill someone or do 90% of their health, that flexibility doesn't exist on SR.
I always go the same thing: DH with Ravenous Hunter and Presence of Mind means you never die or run out of mana. Ludens first item bc it synergizes too well with DH, then big AP items (one of the few champs I feel Rabadon's second is actually a good thing). Void if you want to destroy bruisers with only one or two MR items. It is very easy to do most damage in the game, often by a large margin.
You can also go AD LB, TF and crit with your abilities is enough to one shot 75% of champions, also you win 1vs1 with every ADC without having to hit a skillshot. Her numbers are just that insane.
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On September 11 2020 16:20 iCanada wrote:
So uhhh.... I just played some tryhard ARAM for the first time in a long long time...
Why does Leblanc 1 shot things without ult and take zero damage? is that supposed to be a thing or is my LB play just godlike?
Some champions have specific buffs/nerfs in ARAM, you can see them if you hover over the ARAM buff icon near your stats. Her ARAM adjustment are completely bonkers, +15% dmg and -15% dmg taken iirc might even be more. Likewise with Akali and many melee assassins.
Akali and Leblanc are probably the most overtuned champion in ARAM right now, you can build basically anything on them and carry regardless. Rek'sai and Lee Sin are also both lowkey bonkers.
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Akali used to be 115% and I thought she was mad broken, now she has 118% damage and I don't know what to make of it. Almost all assassins have big buffs, so building tank is viable. Full AP Akali can do 50% of a Teemo's health with one Q and passive. Meanwhile Teemo does less than 50 damage an AA to her with full AP build, the balance is atrocious.
Yeah, Rek'sai and Lee are 'hidden' OP, the buffs basically mean they don't fall off, Rek'sai can burst a bruiser down if you build stuff like BC and DD, instead of troll AP. My current favorite is Tryn, he does 110% of his normal damage, which means that you can 4 shot everyone not a tank, if you have full rage and are fed it's actually only 2 AA and one E, so 1.5 seconds. I used to think he was garbage, and he was without buffs, but now his numbers outweigh the lack of utility.
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On September 11 2020 05:45 Slusher wrote:
It’s basically a skill shot because they need to be charmed for it to do decent damage. Honestly the glacial slow bot build would probably be playable as is if they changed her passive from a flat heal to a % vamp. She could abuse the new minion execute in the same way Caitlyn abuses minion headshot + dblade to become an immovable laner.
Not sure if that’s good for the game or interesting though
My buff would probably be to have outward Q do true damage to charmed targets, the anti synergy between her ult and charm and needed q return for high damage is what makes her so unthreatening.
I was just saying they could make her into an actual skillshot control mage around objectives instead of a D tier assassin.
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Tried AP Twitch on ARAM, here's the damage breakdown. Went 23/14 building Nashor, Liandries, Guinsoo, Void:
- 24k AD damage
-9k AP damage
- 8k True damage
In conclusion, AP Twitch is garbage, you do 3x more damage with AAs than you do with your E. When you fully stack it, it does loads of damage, but most fights are over so fast you don't really get to use it. There is probably a better AP build, but since I was doing so well I thought I was doing loads of AP damage, when really it was my ult tearing through the opponents.
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On September 12 2020 01:09 DarkCore wrote:
Akali used to be 115% and I thought she was mad broken, now she has 118% damage and I don't know what to make of it. Almost all assassins have big buffs, so building tank is viable. Full AP Akali can do 50% of a Teemo's health with one Q and passive. Meanwhile Teemo does less than 50 damage an AA to her with full AP build, the balance is atrocious.
Yeah, Rek'sai and Lee are 'hidden' OP, the buffs basically mean they don't fall off, Rek'sai can burst a bruiser down if you build stuff like BC and DD, instead of troll AP. My current favorite is Tryn, he does 110% of his normal damage, which means that you can 4 shot everyone not a tank, if you have full rage and are fed it's actually only 2 AA and one E, so 1.5 seconds. I used to think he was garbage, and he was without buffs, but now his numbers outweigh the lack of utility.
Don't think I can lose a game on Rek'sai in ARAM. When I get her it's a guaranteed win. Insane champ after 6.
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