EPT[Patch 8.10] Jungle Changes v∞. Scuttle King. - Page 3
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
Ward changes are good for the game. IMO should still remove all free wards. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Idk, since the patch hit I've seen my winrate drop like 5%. Part of that is likely me getting closer to my "true ELO" (did exceptionally poorly in my placements while duoing with a buddy who just hit level 30, was placed S4. Finished last season P3. Currently G1.), so it could largely be normal and a "no-cebo" effect, but I feel so impotent in every game I play. I've played a few games where I won a couple skirmishes and ended up like 3 buff + 6 camping first clear, like hard dicking the other jungler to the point where I should be able to just walk wherever I want and kill everything and hard 1v9, and I just... couldn't influence the game hard enough and lost. Feels really hard to snowball without the early XP; even when you pop off you're barely ahead of bot lane in XP, and behind solo laners. Although it seems my favorite champs have all seen a winrate increase? (Shyv, Mundo[well, given the hard nerfs, his winrate same as last patch], Udyr) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
have you tried actually not just inting into the enemy team what they are both insane when they are fed honestly you get more xp past level 7 with crab xp buff and the no level xp penalty thing, both pretty big when you are ahead | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
^_^ I also legit do think you can hard carry on Mundo. If its not just a psychological thing, my theory is that the lower XP earlier makes it way harder to influence bottom lane, and bottom lane is in fact OP. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
you know you have a team too you don't have to run 1v2 into enemy duo without anyone helping you | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
And LPL of course. Love our new Chinese udyr overlords | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Realistically, I know I'm probably just playing bad too used to stomping bad players. Need to get my mental in the right place. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On May 23 2018 08:28 iCanada wrote: Ads, what junglers do you play / playstyle do you typically use? I'd call myself a "hard carry" style jungler (for example, last season I averaged 80 more GPM than challenger junglers), and I just feel like I have zero influence on the game Idk, since the patch hit I've seen my winrate drop like 5%. Part of that is likely me getting closer to my "true ELO" (did exceptionally poorly in my placements while duoing with a buddy who just hit level 30, was placed S4. Finished last season P3. Currently G1.), so it could largely be normal and a "no-cebo" effect, but I feel so impotent in every game I play. I've played a few games where I won a couple skirmishes and ended up like 3 buff + 6 camping first clear, like hard dicking the other jungler to the point where I should be able to just walk wherever I want and kill everything and hard 1v9, and I just... couldn't influence the game hard enough and lost. Feels really hard to snowball without the early XP; even when you pop off you're barely ahead of bot lane in XP, and behind solo laners. Although it seems my favorite champs have all seen a win rate increase? (Shyv, Mundo[well, given the hard nerfs, his winrate same as last patch], Udyr) I mainly play rek'sai/graves/elise. Elise still sucks but is fun to play. Rek sucks if you fall behind and once you go past 30 minutes it's extremely difficult to influence the game. Graves is broken but doesn't go through pb that often. You need to play aggro early and then just farm out from like 8-15 mins focusing on scuttle. Make sure you ping it like a motherfker so your laners come. Then from then on you can start to become more influential imo. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 23 2018 09:42 cLutZ wrote: Stoked for all these lck games dominated by usyr and mundo And LPL of course. Love our new Chinese udyr overlords i mean solo q and pro play are different beasts udyrs main problem is he's weak when he doesn't get fed and especially against adcs with high damage i dunno why everyone hates plays vs ez as udyr as far as im concerned he's about average difficulty there are many much worse champs to play against such as kog maw vayne and kalista | ||
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Gahlo
United States35142 Posts
On May 24 2018 03:54 Slayer91 wrote: i mean solo q and pro play are different beasts udyrs main problem is he's weak when he doesn't get fed and especially against adcs with high damage i dunno why everyone hates plays vs ez as udyr as far as im concerned he's about average difficulty there are many much worse champs to play against such as kog maw vayne and kalista Doesn't good Ezreals just build Iceborne and kite Udyr all day with Qs? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
In the new patch I’ve also played a few games as Camille and really like her as well. She just kills the scuttle like no one’s business. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 24 2018 04:49 Gahlo wrote: Doesn't good Ezreals just build Iceborne and kite Udyr all day with Qs? I mean if you really want to play the game in a 1v1 vs ezreal you can get RG dodge one Q and catch up but the important point here that ez qing from max range in a teamfight really isn't a big problem just kill the other 4 dodge q's if you can i mean if he's 5 items yea its a problem but if udyr is farmed about the same as ez its np | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Just pick Braum and blow on Udyr when he tries to run at your team. Or play Janna and laugh even harder. Only way Udyr is going to win games is during the early/mid game, where he either has to seriously set lanes behind, or counter jungle the shit out of his opponent. Then he can transition to a split push strategy or just bring the game to a close because his team has snowballed. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4763 Posts
He can easily farm to 10 or more cs/minute if played correctly, steal every camp, get every dragon/scuttle/... and if you show up, he can just say: nope, and back the fuck off. There's no real investment in him doing any of those high risk things (like solo'ing a neutral objective or invading), because he's so hard to catch. A good Udyr player (mostly talking someone with a brain), will render your (or the enemy) team completly frustrated to the point they just do some shit and lose because the situation felt so desperate. Sometimes it feels like teams lose by just rolling over, right? Even at the nexus their attempts to defend feel like a joke.. Well, Udyr is a master of making way of the game playing out happen. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On May 24 2018 18:41 DarkCore wrote: Yo, you guys make Ezreal sound like a bad champion. He is not a bad champ, but all the autofills and monkeys play him and Q from far and then wank over their damage stats. Also yeah, if you are teamfighting as Udyr then you are not doing your job. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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