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Patch 7.24b is live. Small tweaks on various champions.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 13 2017 19:28 GMT
#81
On December 14 2017 03:22 DarkCore wrote:
That is my understanding as well, but I'm 95% sure those rules are relaxed in normal drafts, simply because I've been playing it for a month or so, so I assume my MMR is not fluctuating greatly, and I am still ending up in games where players are between D4-S5. In fact I've started hitting up op.gg 5 minutes into games because I'm seriously wondering why my ADC counterpart very obviously struggling to even stay in lane against me, and some other lane is getting obliterated, because the poor silver guy is getting camped by two Plat buddies.

Tbh I think that's OK for normals, they're not supposed to be taken very seriously, but it makes the game mode pretty lackluster. I had originally wanted to use it to practice until ranked was more balanced, but I gave up, and since starting ranked again I've realized I'm pretty rusty.

Your account uses different MMRs for normals and ranked. So say you started playing in S2 then immediately got into ranked at level 30, started Silver 3 and ranked up to Diamon 4 over the years without playing any normal games, your normal mmr is probably somewhere around the normal equivalent of Silver 3.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 13 2017 19:48 GMT
#82
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 20:52:12
December 13 2017 20:50 GMT
#83
Your normal mmr should account for that.

Normal is just hidden ranked, if you play them once in a blue moon you are in silver.
Carrilord has arrived.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 14 2017 04:07 GMT
#84
normal draft has such a small playerbase anything from like p2+ can match you with people ranked anywhere from mid silver to rank 120 challengers
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 14 2017 05:01 GMT
#85
I was under the impression ranked was the lowest pop queue on na
Carrilord has arrived.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-14 21:16:37
December 14 2017 20:57 GMT
#86
PATch 24b is here.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-724b-notes

I really don’t like how the are balancing EZ by pulling power out of the champ instead of pulling power out of the klepto interaction they leave him far to weak with anything but klepto. That leaves zero build or rune choices, kills ez jungle and is just a clunky way to do it.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 14 2017 21:30 GMT
#87
Yasuo buffs seem good.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 15 2017 00:03 GMT
#88
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 15 2017 01:13 GMT
#89
I'm not going to create a new thread for the 7.24b patch. It's mostly value adjustments on certain champs, nothing changed drastically in terms of ability or design. 7.24b patch link is stickied for easier access.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
December 15 2017 08:26 GMT
#90
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 15 2017 13:23 GMT
#91
What am I supposed to do with all these champion shards? I have over 100k blue essence and own every champion..
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 15 2017 13:46 GMT
#92
On December 15 2017 22:23 Bladeorade wrote:
What am I supposed to do with all these champion shards? I have over 100k blue essence and own every champion..

Wait for the next time the BE shop is available.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 15 2017 13:50 GMT
#93
On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level.

Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 15 2017 13:55 GMT
#94
On December 15 2017 22:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 22:23 Bladeorade wrote:
What am I supposed to do with all these champion shards? I have over 100k blue essence and own every champion..

Wait for the next time the BE shop is available.

Thats lame
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
December 15 2017 16:06 GMT
#95
I save the shards of champions I play often so I can upgrade my mastery levels. Is there anything wrong with that?
You're now breathing manually
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
December 15 2017 16:39 GMT
#96
it is a good idea Sent, specially because upgrading without shard is super costly now imho, I think rito are looking into changing that system (my guess would be lesser BE to upgrade cheaper champs)
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
December 15 2017 17:08 GMT
#97
I just want something to use my blue on. I'd be happy for a 10000:1 blue to orange trade.

On December 15 2017 22:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level.

Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level.

Oh. But stiiiiillll double MR per level is a pretty hefty buff when they are turning up his Q and R. Hope this doesn't mean my games are going to be filled with the history's most anoying samurai.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 15 2017 17:26 GMT
#98
On December 16 2017 01:39 St3MoR wrote:
it is a good idea Sent, specially because upgrading without shard is super costly now imho, I think rito are looking into changing that system (my guess would be lesser BE to upgrade cheaper champs)

I believe Riot scrapped the plan to reduce the BE cost of upgrading Mastery because of a lack of BE sinks.

On December 16 2017 02:08 Jek wrote:
I just want something to use my blue on. I'd be happy for a 10000:1 blue to orange trade.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 22:50 Gahlo wrote:
On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level.

Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level.

Oh. But stiiiiillll double MR per level is a pretty hefty buff when they are turning up his Q and R. Hope this doesn't mean my games are going to be filled with the history's most anoying samurai.

Yeah, I know dick about mid lane to be able to judge a change like this, just seemed weird to me since I thought I remembered a while back where Riot was like "fuck it, everybody that didn't get MR/level gets it now."

Can I just take a moment to say that Riot's done a shit job at making a samurai? Hell, because of game mechanics, Warlord Shen does a better job of being a samurai than Yasuo.

inb4 Yasuo is a ronin.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 15 2017 17:32 GMT
#99
A ronin is a samurai
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 17:34:53
December 15 2017 17:33 GMT
#100
On December 16 2017 02:32 Slusher wrote:
A ronin is a samurai

But a samurai isn't necessarily a ronin. Squares and rectangles.
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