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On December 16 2017 02:26 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 01:39 St3MoR wrote:
it is a good idea Sent, specially because upgrading without shard is super costly now imho, I think rito are looking into changing that system (my guess would be lesser BE to upgrade cheaper champs) I believe Riot scrapped the plan to reduce the BE cost of upgrading Mastery because of a lack of BE sinks. Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 02:08 Jek wrote:I just want something to use my blue on. I'd be happy for a 10000:1 blue to orange trade. On December 15 2017 22:50 Gahlo wrote:On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level. Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level. Oh. But stiiiiillll double MR per level is a pretty hefty buff when they are turning up his Q and R. Hope this doesn't mean my games are going to be filled with the history's most anoying samurai. Yeah, I know dick about mid lane to be able to judge a change like this, just seemed weird to me since I thought I remembered a while back where Riot was like "fuck it, everybody that didn't get MR/level gets it now." Can I just take a moment to say that Riot's done a shit job at making a samurai? Hell, because of game mechanics, Warlord Shen does a better job of being a samurai than Yasuo. inb4 Yasuo is a ronin.
I actually think they did a pretty good job. In a game I'd imagine nearly everyone think of the samurai trope when they think "samurai" ie. lightning fast flashy sword moves rather than the real world's samurai - the heavy armored japanese medieval knight.
Shen is like a real samurai while Yasuo is like the samurai f a n t a s y.
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On December 16 2017 03:00 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 02:26 Gahlo wrote:On December 16 2017 01:39 St3MoR wrote:
it is a good idea Sent, specially because upgrading without shard is super costly now imho, I think rito are looking into changing that system (my guess would be lesser BE to upgrade cheaper champs) I believe Riot scrapped the plan to reduce the BE cost of upgrading Mastery because of a lack of BE sinks. On December 16 2017 02:08 Jek wrote:I just want something to use my blue on. I'd be happy for a 10000:1 blue to orange trade. On December 15 2017 22:50 Gahlo wrote:On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level. Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level. Oh. But stiiiiillll double MR per level is a pretty hefty buff when they are turning up his Q and R. Hope this doesn't mean my games are going to be filled with the history's most anoying samurai. Yeah, I know dick about mid lane to be able to judge a change like this, just seemed weird to me since I thought I remembered a while back where Riot was like "fuck it, everybody that didn't get MR/level gets it now." Can I just take a moment to say that Riot's done a shit job at making a samurai? Hell, because of game mechanics, Warlord Shen does a better job of being a samurai than Yasuo. inb4 Yasuo is a ronin. I actually think they did a pretty good job. In a game I'd imagine nearly everyone think of the samurai trope when they think "samurai" ie. lightning fast flashy sword moves rather than the real world's samurai - the heavy armored japanese medieval knight. Shen is like a real samurai while Yasuo is like the samurai f a n t a s y.
Uh, my imagination always painted a samurai just like that, a heavily clad guy who lumbers around chopping peasants to bits because they lack training and don't have armour. I mean, I've always been interested in Japanese culture, so I guess I know more than most, but still. Where would people get those fast flashy sword tropes from?
Does anyone know how good the Aatrox buffs were? He really needs a rework, but I wonder if he's good enough to play for fun and not just insta-lose.
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Where would people get those fast flashy sword tropes from?
Samurais are Asians and Asian warriors have to be like Bruce Lee.
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On December 16 2017 05:56 DarkCore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 03:00 Jek wrote:On December 16 2017 02:26 Gahlo wrote:On December 16 2017 01:39 St3MoR wrote:
it is a good idea Sent, specially because upgrading without shard is super costly now imho, I think rito are looking into changing that system (my guess would be lesser BE to upgrade cheaper champs) I believe Riot scrapped the plan to reduce the BE cost of upgrading Mastery because of a lack of BE sinks. On December 16 2017 02:08 Jek wrote:I just want something to use my blue on. I'd be happy for a 10000:1 blue to orange trade. On December 15 2017 22:50 Gahlo wrote:On December 15 2017 17:26 Jek wrote:
Did they really need to double Yasuo's MR per level and his Q+R? Meanwhile Zed and Talon have 0 MR per level. Just popped into practice tool with both. They both gain MR/level. Oh. But stiiiiillll double MR per level is a pretty hefty buff when they are turning up his Q and R. Hope this doesn't mean my games are going to be filled with the history's most anoying samurai. Yeah, I know dick about mid lane to be able to judge a change like this, just seemed weird to me since I thought I remembered a while back where Riot was like "fuck it, everybody that didn't get MR/level gets it now." Can I just take a moment to say that Riot's done a shit job at making a samurai? Hell, because of game mechanics, Warlord Shen does a better job of being a samurai than Yasuo. inb4 Yasuo is a ronin. I actually think they did a pretty good job. In a game I'd imagine nearly everyone think of the samurai trope when they think "samurai" ie. lightning fast flashy sword moves rather than the real world's samurai - the heavy armored japanese medieval knight. Shen is like a real samurai while Yasuo is like the samurai f a n t a s y. Uh, my imagination always painted a samurai just like that, a heavily clad guy who lumbers around chopping peasants to bits because they lack training and don't have armour. I mean, I've always been interested in Japanese culture, so I guess I know more than most, but still. Where would people get those fast flashy sword tropes from?
Popular culture? 
Nearly all movies, books and myths paint the image of samurai being master swordsmen.
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Yasuo's also supposed to act as a bodyguard. Well I guess "current skillset" Yasuo is "how he evolved to evade assassins" and all that.
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The mastery grading system honestly makes no sense to me. I earned A+ for this, and I wouldn't mind because I lost anyway but everyone else got S.
+ Show Spoiler +ProphecyTman earned an S- on Twisted Fate ChiSeiryu earned an S on Caitlyn maybenotthistime earned an S- on Gnar ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/45efc26cce5dd9367bb57623250b119c.png)
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Yeah, I really wish there was a way to better visualize how/why you got the grade you got.
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Cait got an S with that score because she has an abysmal win rate with high pick rate, which means a lot of people probably have terrible average stats with her.
Khazix is a snowball champion, but sometimes he can't carry even when fed. I've seen quite a few games where he gets a lot of kills but then gets shut down in team fights. He can't split very well, can be locked down and blown up, and he brings no cc. Unless you snowball the rest of the game, he can be pretty useless. And since Rito only looks at KDA and cs and compares it to the average stats of the champ, being 17/6 doesn't translate to an S.
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I can confirm it's really easy to get an S on Cait if do just okay on her (which wasn't easy for me, but now that I have her chest I no longer need to play this shit champion).
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On December 17 2017 11:02 Ansibled wrote:The mastery grading system honestly makes no sense to me. I earned A+ for this, and I wouldn't mind because I lost anyway but everyone else got S. + Show Spoiler +ProphecyTman earned an S- on Twisted Fate ChiSeiryu earned an S on Caitlyn maybenotthistime earned an S- on Gnar
Wow ya,
Usually it's really easy to explain an A+ on an otherwise great game by pointing to low damage or low CS numbers. In your game, however, all of your numbers line up to what I would expect would be an S- or better.
What are some of the deeper stats on that game? Damage to objectives, vision score?
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On December 17 2017 11:02 Ansibled wrote:The mastery grading system honestly makes no sense to me. I earned A+ for this, and I wouldn't mind because I lost anyway but everyone else got S. + Show Spoiler +ProphecyTman earned an S- on Twisted Fate ChiSeiryu earned an S on Caitlyn maybenotthistime earned an S- on Gnar
i think cause you only got 1 control ward
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It's relative to other players of the same champ.
Khasii pop off on the regular. On the other hand you play Janna jungle and finish 2-8-12, 50+ cs behind other junket and you'll get S every time.
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On December 19 2017 16:16 iCanada wrote:
It's relative to other players of the same champ.
Khasii pop off on the regular. On the other hand you play Janna jungle and finish 2-8-12, 50+ cs behind other junket and you'll get S every time.
I mean it's weighted slightly that way but it doesn't weight that hard lol.
I've played a multitude of off meta champs in different roles and even performing well sometimes I wouldn't get S. And it's not like there are a multitude of guys playing leblanc jungle well.
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LB jungle just isn't troll enough. You have cc, strong duelist skills and multiple aoe clear mechanics. It's not good, but you can easily snowball that pretty hard.
I'm sure someone has snowballed games hard with lb jungle. That's a bad example. The kind if pick I'd take while trolling with my Smurf account and pull out 15 kills with 20cs more than the other jungler.
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Or someone rolled jungle and swapped with mid.
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I don't trust this "year in review" thing. Says I got a pentakill on MF and 0 pentakills in this season total.
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On December 20 2017 03:00 Sent. wrote:
I don't trust this "year in review" thing. Says I got a pentakill on MF and 0 pentakills in this season total.
When I'm not playing support I only play tanks or Veigar. They say Jax, Irelia and Jayce fit my playstyle....
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