EPT[Patch 7.24] Snowdown General Discussion - Page 7
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Patch 7.24b is live. Small tweaks on various champions. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On December 20 2017 03:00 Sent. wrote: I don't trust this "year in review" thing. Says I got a pentakill on MF and 0 pentakills in this season total. It told me I have a 90.6% winrate on fiddlesticks. There is a 0% chance this true. It also told me to play Eve because I play Ivern and Rakan. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 20 2017 04:12 Jek wrote: When I'm not playing support I only play tanks or Veigar. They say Jax, Irelia and Jayce fit my playstyle.... Those are done by looking at everybody who plays X as their most played and suggest the overall 2nd and 3rd most from those people, according to a Rioter on reddit. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On December 19 2017 23:51 iCanada wrote: LB jungle just isn't troll enough. You have cc, strong duelist skills and multiple aoe clear mechanics. It's not good, but you can easily snowball that pretty hard. I'm sure someone has snowballed games hard with lb jungle. That's a bad example. The kind if pick I'd take while trolling with my Smurf account and pull out 15 kills with 20cs more than the other jungler. Well when I played it it was the old LB, not the current one. So not really much multiple aoe clear mechanics. I just mentioned it since it was one I remembered immediately as one of those games where I had like 1/3 of the team's kills and low deaths and highest damage but still not getting S (https://plays.tv/video/56f89f5018e7b96467/rip-lb-jg?from=user). And I don't think the algorithm for getting S changed since then? I also didn't get S while 'hard carrying' (aka high KDA and good stats) with: -Lissandra jg -Soraka jg -Janna jg -etc and I should get full marks for vision points since I'm a ward whore and always top the vision score, even sometimes higher than supports when I'm playing a different role. also this: On September 15 2017 11:26 dsyxelic wrote: Got a A- a few days ago on Janna with these stats: 2/0/10, most wards in game, most pinks in game, most wards cleared in game, doing 1k less damage than enemy mid, enemy jungler. 63% as highest k/p the rest of my team 4/3/1 26% kp, 6/4/3 47% kp, 6/0/1 37% kp, 1/3/5 32% kp. So clearly it was not my team carrying me. Also had only 1k gold less than my adc and jungle in a 25 minute game. like I know janna is an easy stat boost champ, but my stats in this particular game easily should have been good enough unless the algorithm is retarded enough to not take into the stats relative to the game and ONLY compares to stats from other games not taking into the current game into context at all. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Unfortunately though he consumes ungodly amounts of mana or he'd be a top tier or just below jungle instead of borderline trolling. Legit early game with full mana he kills LeeSin 1v1 at level 3. Late game with an ad build (say warrior, red smite, triforce, steraks/GA) REflash>autoqauto kills an ADC, and then you still have your team invulnerable. And if you need to build tank you're still a beast. So long as you get every blue it's beast as hell. It's funny because junglers like Kha/Lee will think they can kill you, and they roll up to you ahead in cs and levels at full health and die. Also an unkillable super tank with 3 defensive items first (say cinderhulk, iceborne, visage). Only works though if you get all the blues. Otherwise you sad and poor. Still good in teamfights even when poor, but feels bad. Try it some time. It's pretty legit as long as other team doesn't know what's up with Taric jungle. But if you can't keep a blue you'll be poor and get shit on in jungle presence as you fall behind game pace. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8937 Posts
is it only available in certain regions atm edit: nvm. its on the client i thought it would be on the website like last year and it doesnt load for me anyway. lul | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 20 2017 15:19 iCanada wrote: Speaking of weird shit in the jungle, Taric is a ridiculously huge blue buff reliance away from being a really really solid jungler. As long as you have mana you clear fast and safely q>aa>aa spam for infinite passive procs, you duel insanely well with the shield + heal + high level passive (clearly sclred to do decent peeling damage as support, you do insane damage without any offensive investment), have strong ganks / 2v2s with shield / stun, actually scale silly well with bruiser items, and are ridiculously useful lategame even when you aren't ahead. Unfortunately though he consumes ungodly amounts of mana or he'd be a top tier or just below jungle instead of borderline trolling. Legit early game with full mana he kills LeeSin 1v1 at level 3. Late game with an ad build (say warrior, red smite, triforce, steraks/GA) REflash>autoqauto kills an ADC, and then you still have your team invulnerable. And if you need to build tank you're still a beast. So long as you get every blue it's beast as hell. It's funny because junglers like Kha/Lee will think they can kill you, and they roll up to you ahead in cs and levels at full health and die. Also an unkillable super tank with 3 defensive items first (say cinderhulk, iceborne, visage). Only works though if you get all the blues. Otherwise you sad and poor. Still good in teamfights even when poor, but feels bad. Try it some time. It's pretty legit as long as other team doesn't know what's up with Taric jungle. But if you can't keep a blue you'll be poor and get shit on in jungle presence as you fall behind game pace. This is, IMO, the S3+ design choice by Riot that has made the jungle much less interesting to me. I just feel like there are dozens of champions that fit the role of "Jungler" aka 3/4th most farm + primary map control champion, that simply cannot clear the jungle. For some its clear speed, for others its clear HP, but I find it to be a bad choice overall because jungle is really the pivot point for the rest of the map (and jungle meta defines top meta in many ways), so that having such a constrained jungle pool constrains picks across the board. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On December 20 2017 15:19 iCanada wrote: Speaking of weird shit in the jungle, Taric is a ridiculously huge blue buff reliance away from being a really really solid jungler. As long as you have mana you clear fast and safely q>aa>aa spam for infinite passive procs, you duel insanely well with the shield + heal + high level passive (clearly sclred to do decent peeling damage as support, you do insane damage without any offensive investment), have strong ganks / 2v2s with shield / stun, actually scale silly well with bruiser items, and are ridiculously useful lategame even when you aren't ahead. Unfortunately though he consumes ungodly amounts of mana or he'd be a top tier or just below jungle instead of borderline trolling. Legit early game with full mana he kills LeeSin 1v1 at level 3. Late game with an ad build (say warrior, red smite, triforce, steraks/GA) REflash>autoqauto kills an ADC, and then you still have your team invulnerable. And if you need to build tank you're still a beast. So long as you get every blue it's beast as hell. It's funny because junglers like Kha/Lee will think they can kill you, and they roll up to you ahead in cs and levels at full health and die. Also an unkillable super tank with 3 defensive items first (say cinderhulk, iceborne, visage). Only works though if you get all the blues. Otherwise you sad and poor. Still good in teamfights even when poor, but feels bad. Try it some time. It's pretty legit as long as other team doesn't know what's up with Taric jungle. But if you can't keep a blue you'll be poor and get shit on in jungle presence as you fall behind game pace. Could you perhaps get an early Tiamat to help conserve mana? Later it becomes Titanic | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On December 20 2017 15:19 iCanada wrote: Speaking of weird shit in the jungle, Taric is a ridiculously huge blue buff reliance away from being a really really solid jungler. As long as you have mana you clear fast and safely q>aa>aa spam for infinite passive procs, you duel insanely well with the shield + heal + high level passive (clearly sclred to do decent peeling damage as support, you do insane damage without any offensive investment), have strong ganks / 2v2s with shield / stun, actually scale silly well with bruiser items, and are ridiculously useful lategame even when you aren't ahead. Unfortunately though he consumes ungodly amounts of mana or he'd be a top tier or just below jungle instead of borderline trolling. Legit early game with full mana he kills LeeSin 1v1 at level 3. Late game with an ad build (say warrior, red smite, triforce, steraks/GA) REflash>autoqauto kills an ADC, and then you still have your team invulnerable. And if you need to build tank you're still a beast. So long as you get every blue it's beast as hell. It's funny because junglers like Kha/Lee will think they can kill you, and they roll up to you ahead in cs and levels at full health and die. Also an unkillable super tank with 3 defensive items first (say cinderhulk, iceborne, visage). Only works though if you get all the blues. Otherwise you sad and poor. Still good in teamfights even when poor, but feels bad. Try it some time. It's pretty legit as long as other team doesn't know what's up with Taric jungle. But if you can't keep a blue you'll be poor and get shit on in jungle presence as you fall behind game pace. Tear and you'll have no mana issues? Muramana Taric is a walking god of death in ARAM at least. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
They also recommended kayn, jhin, and rakan to me. Seems purely like a stunt to get me to buy more champs. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 21 2017 22:54 phyvo wrote: The year in review thing is hilarious. I have some normals games but apparently it decided to fold in all my bot game stats with everything else... meaning that my mid stats were better than a challenger player's (minus warding). They also recommended kayn, jhin, and rakan to me. Seems purely like a stunt to get me to buy more champs. The best part is seeing the absurd damage/death stat on people that play Viegar in bot games. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
o.O Only 354.3 GPM from mid tho. Yikes. On December 20 2017 22:18 Jek wrote: Tear and you'll have no mana issues? Muramana Taric is a walking god of death in ARAM at least. Yeah, Taric is a monster with Muramana. Might fix mana issues and Taric is an admittedly awesome skirmisher, but idea of buying Tear / Boots / Smite item prior to any real combat stats scares me a bit. I'll have to test it out. On December 20 2017 21:32 Bladeorade wrote: Could you perhaps get an early Tiamat to help conserve mana? Later it becomes Titanic I could see Tiamat being good. TitanicHulk + IBG is likely pretty beast, and I bet Tiamat cancels Q animation too. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On December 22 2017 14:23 iCanada wrote: Apparently I average 397.3 gpm from the jungle. I rich as hell. o.O Only 354.3 GPM from mid tho. Yikes. Yeah, Taric is a monster with Muramana. Might fix mana issues and Taric is an admittedly awesome skirmisher, but idea of buying Tear / Boots / Smite item prior to any real combat stats scares me a bit. I'll have to test it out. I could see Tiamat being good. TitanicHulk + IBG is likely pretty beast, and I bet Tiamat cancels Q animation too. Yeah could be a similar build to warwick | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On December 22 2017 14:23 iCanada wrote: Apparently I average 397.3 gpm from the jungle. I rich as hell. o.O Only 354.3 GPM from mid tho. Yikes. Yeah, Taric is a monster with Muramana. Might fix mana issues and Taric is an admittedly awesome skirmisher, but idea of buying Tear / Boots / Smite item prior to any real combat stats scares me a bit. I'll have to test it out. I could see Tiamat being good. TitanicHulk + IBG is likely pretty beast, and I bet Tiamat cancels Q animation too. Wouldn't Tear sort of be both an offensive and defensive buy just like on Ryze? It allows Taric to more freely spam abilities for heal/shield/stun resets and passive procs. | ||
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