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Ornn, the Fire Below the Mountain, will be released during patch 7.17!

Patch 7.17: Live on Aug. 23rd, 2017

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chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 22 2017 18:54 GMT

Maybe I'm just stupid and haven't seen it, but where can I find the effects of the buffed items Ornn gives?

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

August 22 2017 19:35 GMT

https://www.riftherald.com/lol-gameplay/2017/8/9/16117378/ornn-lol-item-upgrades-new-champion

Nice break down there. They seem quite expensive so guessing it'll be more a later game thing.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

August 22 2017 19:39 GMT

On August 23 2017 03:54 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Maybe I'm just stupid and haven't seen it, but where can I find the effects of the buffed items Ornn gives?

Item +1k gold
Sunfire: +200HP, +30Armor, +100% burn vs minions and monsters
Abyssal: +200HP, +35MR
IE: +30AD
Cleaver: +150HP, +20AD
Deathcap: +55AP
Triforce: +10AD, +10%AS, +3%MS, +100HP, +100Mana

Item + 500g
Redemption: +100HP, +100%HP Regen, +50%Mana Regen
Locket: +15Armor, +15MR

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 22 2017 21:45 GMT

For the new thread, if you are going to be at pax and are willing to sell your Sivir code, please pm me.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 22 2017 22:06 GMT

Also if you think Janna solo q win rate is an indicator of how op censor is you are pretty new to the solo q win rate game

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

August 22 2017 22:36 GMT

So, doing the math on IE only, Orn's upgrade is about as gold-efficient as BF sword in AD translations (technically BF would give 30.7 AD at 1k Gold). This makes it an interesting upgrade for lategame when you are item capped, or a midgame convenience item when you don't have the extra 300 for a Dragon/Baron (and you probably don't mind the space for wards).

Maybe some of the other ones are better goldwise and could offer interesting powerspikes, but I'll let the nerds decide.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

August 23 2017 00:11 GMT

Sunfire stands out immediately to me, as uniquely useful, with the extra waveclear speed, though if that is a mistake and isn't a buff to the burn damage to minions then its just meh. and Redemption interests me only because there are so few ways to stack %mana regen with the new Athenes, that giving 10 more AP to the combo is neat.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

August 23 2017 00:11 GMT

Locket, Redemption and Sunfire upgrades look pretty spicy.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8937 Posts

August 23 2017 07:47 GMT

#10

the thing i never understood about riot is some changes are done solely because they want to create a "story" for the champion.
their reasoning for hecarim changes is fucking stupid for what is supposed to be a competitive game.
you make balance changes and you leave what doesnt need to be touched, not change something to give more "cavalry feel". like wtf is that?
same with leblanc changes and any other stupid rework theyve done over the years because they didnt like the character rather than the actual gameplay.

looking at "balance" changes like these really make me miss pre-2014 dota tbh. too many storytellers in riot rather than actual gamers

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

August 23 2017 08:04 GMT

#11

Yay, Ardent nerfs, Janna untouched though, oh well.

Looks like Riot wants to get Urgot into the meta, same with Ezreal, very grateful for that.

Bulgaria4186 Posts

August 23 2017 11:33 GMT

#12

On August 23 2017 17:04 DarkCore wrote:
Yay, Ardent nerfs, Janna untouched though, oh well.

Looks like Riot wants to get Urgot into the meta, same with Ezreal, very grateful for that.

Overall doesnt look like a big patch to change the meta, maybe they would like to keep this one for the worlds, which I approve, since, I like the meta.

kongoline

6318 Posts

August 23 2017 13:50 GMT

#13

patch changes nothing guess another few weeks of cancer shields and hypercarry adc's face tanking me and 1v9 everything

Bulgaria4186 Posts

August 23 2017 14:00 GMT

#14

Is there a way to replace the danger ping from the top of the wheel with the new warded area ping? Coz for danger I am used to use the one with ctr+mouse button, so it will be really nice if I can make the upper wheel ping useful (I never managed to understand why they put two different danger pings anyway)

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

August 23 2017 14:41 GMT

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geript

10024 Posts

August 23 2017 16:45 GMT

#16

On August 23 2017 23:41 JimmiC wrote:

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I like that they went just Ardent. Too often they nerf two things at once and it is too far. See how much the ardent nerf does and go from there.

The double nerfs thing is something that gets brought up a lot on these threads.

Yah, it's still pretty strong tho.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

August 23 2017 16:51 GMT

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geript

10024 Posts

August 23 2017 17:45 GMT

#18

On August 24 2017 01:51 JimmiC wrote:
True but i dont think they wanted to kill the diversity. Its fine if its strong, its only bad if it crowds out the others

Yah, I don't have a problem with it whatsoever. Pretty sure it's actually even a bit stronger initially but doesn't scale as well (which is fine). TBH, I think the best thing they've done for the game in a long time is introduce 10 bans. I dislike how it is in solo-q, but it could be far, far worse.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

August 23 2017 18:15 GMT

#19

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Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

August 24 2017 00:33 GMT

#20

I will still whine about coin, which i believe is the truly op thing allowing passive laners to excel and warping soloq because of this. when picking coin isn't just viable on poke/mage supports, but actually optimal because its better mana regen on top of better gold, then its a goddam problem.