I prefer the current jungle meta over Lee/Elise every game, although I think the top picks should be toned down a bit. For example increasing Sej E cd would be a pretty decent nerf that would bring her in line with other champs. Same goes for the Cho ult interaction, it would be good if that got slightly nerfed as well.
When that happens I think we might even see as much as 15 different jungle picks at worlds.
In that case the champs getting added to the meta would mostly be bruisers, which in turn opens up the ADC meta as well, especially if Ardent Censor or the champs that use it get hit in the next patch.
Toplane meta is pretty decent as well, and I think that touching dorans shield would just end up with a return to Jayce/Kennen every game, which was imo one of the worst states of League.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

August 24 2017 22:16 GMT

#42

On August 25 2017 01:56 Slusher wrote:

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Maybe if an ad assassin meta starts I can stop tilting when my Kayne teammates pick blue.

Would kayn even be good in ad assassin meta? The dude just looks pretty trash to me. You're hot garbage early game yet if you don't do shit early you're hot garbage for longer so what is the point. You aren't even that amazing later on so??? Just pick Kha'zix or something like that lol. Just seems like a pretty binary champ that's "snowball super early and win or feed your tits off" but he's harder to snowball because he's so shit as base form.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 24 2017 22:29 GMT

#43

Tanks don't even have that much impact. They're unkillable but in exchange they just tickle people, that's pretty lame. Then again I remember Nautilus being nerfed across the board because when his ganks went well enough to let him not trail too behind the solo lanes in exp, his base damage could deal around half a squishy's health with a full combo at level 7-9, what a tragedy. Meanwhile the acceptable non-tanks junglers would 100-0 them in the same position and not need to gank, just run around killing people.

Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

August 25 2017 00:11 GMT

#44

I even think coin's gold generation is sorta okay, if you remove the mana generation it also gives.

Infinite shields means there's no real punishment to the item's supposed lack of stats. You'd be making an actual choice at that point to be passive and greedy until you get another item.

Like how is this item viable, and even optimal in some circumstances, on someone like sona who just wants to poke 24/7. an item that's supposed to have no stats and be weak in lane is actually good on a support who wants to trade 24/7.

or at least heavily nerf mana coins until the last upgrade. like 5-10-15% missing and minimum so you aren't spewing mana from every orfice in lane.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

August 25 2017 03:06 GMT

#45

The problem is that riot makes Champs that need to spam to have the same impact in bot lane. So they need that regen. Sona is gonna struggle compared to Karma or Zyra if she cant spend mana like nobodies business, because the champ is designed to spam. Same with Soraka, It just provides too much to other champs that dont need the spam and just need timing, like janna.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

August 25 2017 05:08 GMT

#46

I think coin is the best designed support item. Ideally, the support meta should be Janna/Thresh/Nami focused most of the time. Making the coin mechanic the only gold generation style helps this, just make it 300 Gold for just the gold Gen with 3+ 50Gold upgrades that give stats. This will make it easier to define the roles of the non-generalist supports.

Blitz/Leona are the aggro niche supports, Sona/Soraka are poke niche (should be picked for comp), braum, taric, and kench are defensive, karma/lulu/zyra/morg are mage flex picks that should be balanced for mid more than support. And Alistar's remake is a boring disaster.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

August 27 2017 06:13 GMT

#47

For anyone who loves 1-2 players carrying terrible teammates, go watch LPL 3rd place match.

docsforsale

United States3 Posts

August 27 2017 19:24 GMT

#48

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Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

August 27 2017 19:52 GMT

#49

but what kind of docs were for sale?

Bulgaria4146 Posts

August 28 2017 16:01 GMT

#50

Why jungle fiddle has 55% win rate ? (seen in champion.gg) Wtf is going on?

FaCE_1

Canada6184 Posts

August 28 2017 16:33 GMT

#51

Anyone have problem with their "honor" icon in the waiting room before the game start. I got Honor 4 and my icon (or ribbon) only show like 1/4 game.

Sent.

Poland9289 Posts

August 28 2017 16:38 GMT

#52

Didn't check to be sure, but I'm convinced my honor icons were displayed only in first games after "promotion" and remained hidden later.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 28 2017 17:21 GMT

#53

Honor loading screen flair only shows the game after receiving honor from 1 unknown player or 2 friended players.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

August 28 2017 18:30 GMT

#54

On August 28 2017 04:52 Ansibled wrote:
but what kind of docs were for sale?

s2secretsgg.docx

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

August 30 2017 20:51 GMT

#55

When you do the stoneplate + locket combo on a jungler it works with the bonus health from cinderhulk right?

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 30 2017 20:58 GMT

#56

Yes, extremely temporarily, it was nerfed to not take that hp into account but was hot fixed back until a bug involving Kled is resolved

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

August 31 2017 09:33 GMT

#57

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3THTrhmb-runes-corner-late-game-focused-runes

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Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

August 31 2017 09:43 GMT

#58

They've made some bold choices with the runes rework, that's for sure. Not really worth discussing specifics this far out.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

August 31 2017 15:24 GMT

#59

It'll be interesting to see if it can change any champion that is currently a one-ult bot. Because there's enough CDR / "natural" cooldown reduction from ability leveling that nearly every champion's ultimate is always up for late game teamfights (the only exception I can think of is sometimes Karthus), but very few champions can cast a standard-cooldown ultimate twice in a teamfight. Imagine Vi or Malphite or Zilean being able to ult twice now.

ruypture

United States367 Posts

August 31 2017 16:35 GMT

#60

On September 01 2017 00:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if it can change any champion that is currently a one-ult bot. Because there's enough CDR / "natural" cooldown reduction from ability leveling that nearly every champion's ultimate is always up for late game teamfights (the only exception I can think of is sometimes Karthus), but very few champions can cast a standard-cooldown ultimate twice in a teamfight. Imagine Vi or Malphite or Zilean being able to ult twice now.

you also have to consider that every item in the game gives cdr. every champ always has 40% cdr by 25-30 minutes