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United States37500 Posts
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.
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There are no new champions this patch.
Patch 7.13: Live on June 28th, 2017
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United States37500 Posts
A lot of nerfs this patch, some more warranted than others (e.g. Galio wave clear). Then there's some arbitrary buffs like +1% to Poppy's Q. zz
Warmly waiting to use that kkoma ward skin until the day I quit League.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
I'm reporting all of my teammates to lower their honor xD
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I can't wait to get very low honor, because of low elo lack of synergy xD
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I want key fragments but rarely get honor, I mostly get flamed :/
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you just have to be disgustingly positive and its so easy to get honor
I did like 3 games in a row where I was ridiculously positive
mid dies 4 times before level 6 and gets flamed?
me: its ok guys we can do it!
me: sorry mid I'll ward for you soon!
me: hey you can do it man come on team lets do it!
no lie averaged at least 2 honors per game
I'd do it more if I didn't have to spend so much time typing to show how positive I am
gnar - not sure if he needed this buff. I thought he was in a pretty good place. playable, but not really good. I think he'll be pretty good now.
reksai - this guy is more than playable and they just buff him. wat
kindred - pretty hilarious how hard riot tries to make kindred playable without making her OP
ancient coin - holy moly this coin lol. the quest is so garbage but the gen stats..
zac - where is the zac nerf?
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New champ looks pretty broke
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Honestly the new champ kit doesnt look too complex, its more on the simple side, which probably means that he could be balanced by touching the numbers.
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I sense great spaghetti code potential in Kayn's ability to walk through walls
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I don't know how you balance a mobile bruiser with built in snowball mechanics (kill/damage certain champs to transform)
They even confirmed if you are behind and dont get your transform, you will be very weak.
So it's another shitty feast or famine champion that will be cancer to play with or against
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On June 28 2017 22:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't know how you balance a mobile bruiser with built in snowball mechanics (kill/damage certain champs to transform)
They even confirmed if you are behind and dont get your transform, you will be very weak.
So it's another shitty feast or famine champion that will be cancer to play with or against
Most likely at the end, they will leave it weak before the transformation and normally strong after
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NB3's stream has gotten pretty degenerate, but this is... interesting.
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This new champion looks stupid and I had to read his passive like 3 times to understand it.
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/77d8f1e14a4976afb964ad5a6b88ebbf.png)
wtf
Also I don't understand the Gnar buffs he was already good and played competitively.
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United States37500 Posts
Gnar buffs seems to be a symptom of Riot trying to buff based off solo q stats. And as a result, it's going to have hilar consequences in pro play soon. Guess more Top players need to pick up Kled and Gnar now.
Having been on the receiving end of FMallet Gnar running you down when you have no turret to retreat to, buffing his Q seems like a really toxic idea.
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IDK, I think it'd be pretty cool to see Yasuo in competitive again.
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On June 29 2017 04:12 Ansibled wrote:This new champion looks stupid and I had to read his passive like 3 times to understand it. wtf Also I don't understand the Gnar buffs he was already good and played competitively. Einstein was right, stupidity is indeed limitless.
(yes, im triggered)
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On June 28 2017 10:51 dsyxelic wrote:
you just have to be disgustingly positive and its so easy to get honor
I did like 3 games in a row where I was ridiculously positive
mid dies 4 times before level 6 and gets flamed?
me: its ok guys we can do it!
me: sorry mid I'll ward for you soon!
me: hey you can do it man come on team lets do it!
no lie averaged at least 2 honors per game
I'd do it more if I didn't have to spend so much time typing to show how positive I am
gnar - not sure if he needed this buff. I thought he was in a pretty good place. playable, but not really good. I think he'll be pretty good now.
reksai - this guy is more than playable and they just buff him. wat
kindred - pretty hilarious how hard riot tries to make kindred playable without making her OP
ancient coin - holy moly this coin lol. the quest is so garbage but the gen stats..
zac - where is the zac nerf?
I've won many games just by writing "please remember the enemy is on the other team", "plz relax we got this", "flaming never helps" etc. It sounds like a truism but really works, shout whatever you want at the screen but write only positive stuff and it will do miracles
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I find people trying to be positive in chat kind of irritating, but I'd much rather everyone just shut up and didn't say anything.
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On June 29 2017 04:12 Ansibled wrote:
Also I don't understand the Gnar buffs he was already good and played competitively.
+ reksai
reksai is already a top jungler right now and they buff him lmao
On June 30 2017 07:25 Ansibled wrote:
I find people trying to be positive in chat kind of irritating, but I'd much rather everyone just shut up and didn't say anything.
same, honestly the best scenario is people communicating with pings and small things like "top f 5:50" or "prep baron 1 min"
my best games in terms of chat experience have been people not really talking. bad shit happens? no one says anything besides "drag in 1 min". good shit happens? we just proceed as usual and take objectives.
unfortunately it is difficult to accrue honor that way :/
On June 30 2017 06:13 JimmiC wrote:
its very interesting when most people say that their number one goal is to win and they are mad because X did Y which lowered this chance. Their reaction to the perceived mistake is to do something (insult, rage, passive aggressive question(why?) or whatever) that lowers their chance of winning by either fighting with teammates or having chance of tilting them or themselves.
And no matter how many times people point this out they continue. My working theory is their actual # 1 goal is not to win but rather make sure that losses are "not their fault". Which in fact holds them back because thinking you lost for any reason out of your control leads to missing ones own mistakes and not improving as fast or at all. Others mistakes unless its a duo mate, really don't impact your ranking because the chances of playing any meaningful number of games with that person are slim.
its pretty normal human behavior
humans are petty
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/muteall
/mutepingall
Hashtag blessed
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On June 30 2017 08:38 JimmiC wrote:
Tge person filming is just as bad. She could just walk in and "get her dinner". It is like lol though all feel justified and think others are the assholes lol
all 3 are at fault ofc lol
its just a funny illustration of soloq behavior irl
girl filming made it much bigger than it needed to be. its even worse because unlike soloq you can just get up and leave. or go inside the restaraunt.
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On June 30 2017 07:25 Ansibled wrote:
I find people trying to be positive in chat kind of irritating, but I'd much rather everyone just shut up and didn't say anything.
this. i cringe every time someone is trying to be overly optimistic or friendly. i just have an image of that guy getting shafted in real life everyday
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you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though
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United States11390 Posts
On June 28 2017 10:51 dsyxelic wrote:
you just have to be disgustingly positive and its so easy to get honor
I did like 3 games in a row where I was ridiculously positive
mid dies 4 times before level 6 and gets flamed?
me: its ok guys we can do it!
me: sorry mid I'll ward for you soon!
me: hey you can do it man come on team lets do it!
no lie averaged at least 2 honors per game
I'd do it more if I didn't have to spend so much time typing to show how positive I am
gnar - not sure if he needed this buff. I thought he was in a pretty good place. playable, but not really good. I think he'll be pretty good now.
reksai - this guy is more than playable and they just buff him. wat
kindred - pretty hilarious how hard riot tries to make kindred playable without making her OP
ancient coin - holy moly this coin lol. the quest is so garbage but the gen stats..
zac - where is the zac nerf?
Well, now they added an actual good quest reward for coin line aka return of Captain boot enchantment.
Ancient Coin [Nomad's Medallion, Talisman of Ascension, Eye of the Oasis]
The Quest reward for the Ancient Coin line of items has been changed from [Elixir of Skill] to [allies champions moving towards you gain 8% movement speed]
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 30 2017 10:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 07:25 Ansibled wrote:
I find people trying to be positive in chat kind of irritating, but I'd much rather everyone just shut up and didn't say anything. this. i cringe every time someone is trying to be overly optimistic or friendly. i just have an image of that guy getting shafted in real life everyday
How do you like the new tips then
You can help yourself become tilt-proof by expecting the unexpected fam
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Riot can't even spell honour correctly in my client.
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The honor screen appears even for the losing team? Wtf is this bullshit, pretty tasteless joke imo xD
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On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though
I used to be that person, they probably just spend too much time on the game. There's something about a 5 person team game with randoms that makes anyone annoyed if you dip too much time into it.
I would never be BM while playing with anyone I know though
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On June 30 2017 21:31 Ansibled wrote:
Riot can't even spell honour correctly in my client.
If English(UK) isn't a language option, tough noogies.
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I hate the periods right after Gnar buffs, you get a lot of garbage Gnar players who try to check if their little fluffy shit is viable in solo Q again. Just had a game where my Gnar was 0/4/0 and 24 to 80 cs against Yasuo top.
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On June 30 2017 23:12 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though Im not surprised at all. They are bottling up all their anger during real life. Prob being fake nice, them explode online where there is no consequences.
some people dont like to lose. simple as that.
theyre competitive as fuck so they rage at people if they think theyre gonna lose.
you dont see that in real life because i win/lose scenarios arent as clear cut i guess
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On June 30 2017 23:49 JimmiC wrote:
Nope if they really hayed to lose they would remain positive till after the game. What they hate is taking any responsibilty so they blame rage others. The earlier they do it the more this is true No I'm pretty sure what they hate is others inting.
On June 30 2017 22:44 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 21:31 Ansibled wrote:
Riot can't even spell honour correctly in my client. If English(UK) isn't a language option, tough noogies.
It is an option though, and Riot has no problem shoving ESL UK adverts down my throat.
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On June 30 2017 23:19 Sent. wrote:
I hate the periods right after Gnar buffs, you get a lot of garbage Gnar players who try to check if their little fluffy shit is viable in solo Q again. Just had a game where my Gnar was 0/4/0 and 24 to 80 cs against Yasuo top.
On one hand, I agree. On the other, Yasuo counters Gnar pretty hard.
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On June 30 2017 17:28 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 10:51 dsyxelic wrote:
you just have to be disgustingly positive and its so easy to get honor
I did like 3 games in a row where I was ridiculously positive
mid dies 4 times before level 6 and gets flamed?
me: its ok guys we can do it!
me: sorry mid I'll ward for you soon!
me: hey you can do it man come on team lets do it!
no lie averaged at least 2 honors per game
I'd do it more if I didn't have to spend so much time typing to show how positive I am
gnar - not sure if he needed this buff. I thought he was in a pretty good place. playable, but not really good. I think he'll be pretty good now.
reksai - this guy is more than playable and they just buff him. wat
kindred - pretty hilarious how hard riot tries to make kindred playable without making her OP
ancient coin - holy moly this coin lol. the quest is so garbage but the gen stats..
zac - where is the zac nerf? Well, now they added an actual good quest reward for coin line aka return of Captain boot enchantment. Ancient Coin [Nomad's Medallion, Talisman of Ascension, Eye of the Oasis] The Quest reward for the Ancient Coin line of items has been changed from [Elixir of Skill] to [allies champions moving towards you gain 8% movement speed]
is that next patch? shit riot REALLY wants this item to become meta. definitely looks strong
On June 30 2017 22:25 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though I used to be that person, they probably just spend too much time on the game. There's something about a 5 person team game with randoms that makes anyone annoyed if you dip too much time into it. I would never be BM while playing with anyone I know though
yeah they are the type of people that are extreme. like pour 12 hours a day into league for a certain period of time and then completely stop playing. a bunch of them are like that IRL too and tend to be pretty successful with what they do in terms of school/work since they go ham on it whether it is league or career/studies.
On June 30 2017 23:12 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though Im not surprised at all. They are bottling up all their anger during real life. Prob being fake nice, them explode online where there is no consequences.
meh don't think you can generalize everyone like that. especially since I've known some of them for basically my entire life and they are some of the nicest people I know in person that back it up with action. It's just easy to start flaming people when everyone is doing it and you're spending hours every day on the game. if you played soloq every day for 13 hours for anything like a month I'd bet it'd be at least difficult for you too.
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On June 30 2017 23:12 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though Im not surprised at all. They are bottling up all their anger during real life. Prob being fake nice, them explode online where there is no consequences.
that's such bullshit
real life for the most part is not a fast paced competitive environment, there's no reason to get angry because becky talks about Friends too much. When you're losing a game because someone else on your team is fucking up by doing stupid thing there's a fairly logical reason to get angry.
the time played isn't the cause of people getting toxic, but when people play a lot they are more attentive to details and more focused on the game so more likely to get annoyed at people less focused.
but getting mad is a function of mindset so if someone is playing more trying to get better he's going to be less toxic than some guy who plays casually who just lost his promos
i have brothers who used to go absolutely bat shit crazy when they had trouble even in single player games, like breaking shit slamming the desk constantly bat shit, but are calm in normal life
i feel in a way as a man your emotions are on "off mode" in casual life and work for the most part and then when you go to play your sports or games the on switch flicks because you actually are invested in the results.
maybe that's just the autism speaking though
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Lack of (meaningful) social contact is also a thing causing rage. There is no way of getting through to a teammate in an efficient manner, and so people's frustration surfaces quickly. Compare it to people getting frustrated with unknown software bugs or bureaucratic processes.
One of the reasons why reporting people for toxic behaviour and tribunal type stuff does not work, is imo because it ignores the underlying causes. It's treated as illness, not symptom. Not that I have a solution. I'm not sure some teamspeak like function for example would improve experience overall.
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I'm not sure where you're getting the ideas of manly and toughness being intrinsically linked to being mad. And I already mentioned getting mad a single player games where you have no actual person to be mad at
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I already explained why it occurs and he confirmed it, take it from some one that actually behaved like that in the past. Its very closely related to time sunk fallacy
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On July 02 2017 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
I already explained why it occurs and he confirmed it, take it from some one that actually behaved like that in the past. Its very closely related to time sunk fallacy
Also something that I didn't see teut or you mention is difference in priorities. For example if I want to get better and am tryharding people being retards is very frustrating while if you are in the "it's just a game bro" mode it doesn't matter. Although recently I tried playing with friends who are like bronze-g5 range and unless I am intoxicated in some way games aren't enjoyable at all lul.
Personally all the guys that rage in game that I know are either very calm or just retarded irl.
Also after playing soloq people being retards at work is so insanely easy to handle while most colleagues get really worked up for no reason. Playing league can be useful irl as well folks!
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On July 02 2017 08:59 nafta wrote:
Also after playing soloq people being retards at work is so insanely easy to handle while most colleagues get really worked up for no reason. Playing league can be useful irl as well folks!
plus like in real life, there is actually something else to do. always. and nothing is "the point" of life. but like league is about winning. there isn't anything in a loss due to someone else, but in life or like at work, you just avoid relying on that person in the future. unless you are the top of the ladder or maybe i guess the absolute bottom, you dont ever get that learning experience, its just a new random person that decides to try AP tryndamere in ranked or INTing or whatever.
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On July 02 2017 09:08 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2017 08:59 nafta wrote:
Also after playing soloq people being retards at work is so insanely easy to handle while most colleagues get really worked up for no reason. Playing league can be useful irl as well folks! plus like in real life, there is actually something else to do. always. and nothing is "the point" of life. but like league is about winning. there isn't anything in a loss due to someone else, but in life or like at work, you just avoid relying on that person in the future. unless you are the top of the ladder or maybe i guess the absolute bottom, you dont ever get that learning experience, its just a new random person that decides to try AP tryndamere in ranked or INTing or whatever.
I dunno winning isn't really the point of league for me. Playing relatively close games with people of similar skill level is way more fun regardless of result compared to just rolling kids.
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On July 02 2017 09:11 nafta wrote:
Playing relatively close games with people of similar skill level is way more fun regardless of result compared to just rolling kids.
I mean yeah but thats nothing to do with you. thats a system. if matchmaking is fucking up, nothing you can do about it.
Late game league is crazy frustrating though no matter the match, if it goes past 35-40 minutes its hell. win or lose trying to herd the team is so frustrating, but if you dont do it to avoid the frustration, you lose every close game. I long for those challenger matches where the herding is only necessary every other game.
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On July 02 2017 08:59 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2017 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
I already explained why it occurs and he confirmed it, take it from some one that actually behaved like that in the past. Its very closely related to time sunk fallacy Also after playing soloq people being retards at work is so insanely easy to handle while most colleagues get really worked up for no reason. Playing league can be useful irl as well folks!
Oh shit I never noticed that. Some of my friends get annoyed by silliest shit in work but always play with "its just a game bro" mentality even when they tryhard, whereas I rage even at single player games but never get angry at stuff outside of my control in job.
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On July 01 2017 05:40 dsyxelic wrote:
is that next patch? shit riot REALLY wants this item to become meta. definitely looks strong
It's funny because riot had no clue why people were buying the item the rare times they did. It was bought for the Hp per minion death and the regen stats. so they removed the hp regen on both parts, and then wondered why it was even worse than it was before.
Slowly adding stuff back is nice, but uh unless it's the "greed" item and you get more money per wave from it than you do from frost, then it might still not be worth getting. The other quests and items are stronger, so unless the coin completes much faster, or they buff the final upgrade (which should probably be made out of catalyst or forbidden idol instead of raptor cloak). i don't see it picking up in popularity.
Is there even a mana starved support that is good these days that wouldnt prefer the extra damage and gold from frost, or the health and tankiness from relic?
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On July 02 2017 04:14 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2017 01:49 Slayer91 wrote:
I'm not sure where you're getting the ideas of manly and toughness being intrinsically linked to being mad. And I already mentioned getting mad a single player games where you have no actual person to be mad at
I guess from my hockey where getting mad means fighting at least for adults. I think the biggest reason sports is not a comparable is the rage in lol is against teammates. If you notice in single person games people rage against "cheese" or op races. Again to stop them from taking responsibility
As someone who made into the low minors in hockey I have seen more then my fair share of teammates have it out even to the point that in college our captains had called for a no coaches practice so that people could "settle there differences". Team sports are really no different then league you have selfish players u have cocky players bad attitude and u have to make things work still. the main differences is you only have to play with them 1 game and while there are people that would have the balls to say the same things they say online to people's faces the number of strictly internet tough guys is huge not to mention the age gap of 13 year olds playing with 30 year olds. So While I don't believe in raging at teammates during game because I am competitive and that would lower my chances to win. I have no problem calling a guy out as our nexus goes down that I will never play with again.
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On July 02 2017 00:50 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2017 10:06 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2017 23:12 JimmiC wrote:On June 30 2017 15:02 dsyxelic wrote:
you might be surprised
some of the most ragiest people in game that I know IRL are some of the most normal and well liked people
i don't like playing games with them but they are pretty cool outside of games. dunno why games trigger them so hard though Im not surprised at all. They are bottling up all their anger during real life. Prob being fake nice, them explode online where there is no consequences. that's such bullshit real life for the most part is not a fast paced competitive environment, there's no reason to get angry because becky talks about Friends too much. When you're losing a game because someone else on your team is fucking up by doing stupid thing there's a fairly logical reason to get angry. the time played isn't the cause of people getting toxic, but when people play a lot they are more attentive to details and more focused on the game so more likely to get annoyed at people less focused. but getting mad is a function of mindset so if someone is playing more trying to get better he's going to be less toxic than some guy who plays casually who just lost his promos i have brothers who used to go absolutely bat shit crazy when they had trouble even in single player games, like breaking shit slamming the desk constantly bat shit, but are calm in normal life i feel in a way as a man your emotions are on "off mode" in casual life and work for the most part and then when you go to play your sports or games the on switch flicks because you actually are invested in the results. maybe that's just the autism speaking though I think sports are different because physical contact and consequences are possible. To me there is nothing "tough" about video game rage. Also i bet these guys you speak of are getting mad at the opponents not throwing poor me tantrums at there teammates. Its a totally bitchey "unmanly" thing to throw a tantrum at your own team. Once your an adult if you do this behavior you will likely be finding a new team.
You have it kind of backwards. The physical contact and exertion in real sports is why anger doesn't come out as much verbally (although it does, and sports teams that don't have players/coaches that scream at each other don't exist at those highest levels). Playing competitive games without raging requires you to manage your physical exertion elsewhere to burn off the stress hormones.
Edit, also, most important sports games don't end up feeling so "hopeless" as LOL games often do. And in those situations refs know to look for the losing team to start cheapshotting the winning team. Well, you can't cheap shot the other team in LOL.
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I mean. I disagree, if I account for chippiness and referees. Anytime my team in soccer was obviously better the other team would just start trying to injure us. Its not even subtle after kids turn 8 or 9, its just vicious. I was blown out a few times and my team basically turned into a flamefest of "empty mid" kids except for in the case of when I had (IMO) my best coach ever.
Since intentionally injuring opponents is both the #1 response of losing sports teams, and not available in LOL, its not surprising that the #2 response (blaming teammates) is the dominant paradigm.
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On July 03 2017 11:30 JimmiC wrote:
But as ive mentioned real sports vs opponents lol vs teammates, much bitchy, spoiled bratish.
in real sports the guy that goes to his teammates and gives a slightly abusive motivational speech is called a leader or a captain. xD
They just have a much higher tolerance for what constitutes "bad behavior" and its almost always reserved for talk that is negative toward game result, not people.
"We're going to lose" is much worse to say on the sideline than "Get your ass back up and stop fucking around"
but in league it's kind of the opposite. You say the former people just go "no we aren't" and move on, you say the latter and you get called toxic.
It's just a difference space with totally different customs and competitive culture. Though in sports you generally have an authoritarian leader who can remove you from a match and replace you if you are fucking about intentionally, and it's generally assumed that in 100% of matches the players on the field are trying their best and wanting to win.
None of those things are true in league. some people go into "its just a game" mode, even in ranked. there is no coach that can pull a feeding player and replace them, and sometimes people just dont care about winning or losing and just do what THEY want because it's not what the TEAM wants. and they dont value the team. Some of that is because the game tries to rate individual skill based on team performance, and some of that is just because matchmaking means you aren't playing with the same folk game after game.
And some is that everyone has their own egos and no one checks them at the door in league. If a player is sucking and someone who isnt tries to correct them, it's "toxic" no matter how it's phrased, when it's leadership or mentoring in sports. And thats down to ego vs ego problems.
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oh wow I already got 2 key fragments from the honor system
"Here's 2 keyfragments for being sportsmanlike"
not bad since it's only been a few days.
I'm still only on Honor 2 btw. Not sure if it's something unrelated to honor..
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That feel when nobody in your team deserves to be honored but you want the extra bonus for everyone honoring somebody in their team
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On July 04 2017 05:16 Sent. wrote:
That feel when nobody in your team deserves to be honored but you want the extra bonus for everyone honoring somebody in their team
if they are that bad they arent going to bother honoring
i hardly ever get that bonus because the 1 bad apple doesn't honor anybody anyways lol
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Everybody in my games only ironically honors people.
At the same time, I'm averaging 2 honors per game.
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On July 04 2017 02:09 dsyxelic wrote:
oh wow I already got 2 key fragments from the honor system
"Here's 2 keyfragments for being sportsmanlike"
not bad since it's only been a few days.
I'm still only on Honor 2 btw. Not sure if it's something unrelated to honor..
I'm curious what determined that because I got 4 this morning whereas another friend got 2 and one didn't mention getting any
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On July 04 2017 11:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2017 02:09 dsyxelic wrote:
oh wow I already got 2 key fragments from the honor system
"Here's 2 keyfragments for being sportsmanlike"
not bad since it's only been a few days.
I'm still only on Honor 2 btw. Not sure if it's something unrelated to honor.. I'm curious what determined that because I got 4 this morning whereas another friend got 2 and one didn't mention getting any
same
you're the highest ive seen though, did you get alot of honor?
rest of my friends got 1, but they've barely played any games where honor counts (non premade 5s) so I'm pretty sure as long as you haven't been reported you get 1 even if you didn't accrue any honor
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On July 04 2017 12:36 dsyxelic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2017 11:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 04 2017 02:09 dsyxelic wrote:
oh wow I already got 2 key fragments from the honor system
"Here's 2 keyfragments for being sportsmanlike"
not bad since it's only been a few days.
I'm still only on Honor 2 btw. Not sure if it's something unrelated to honor.. I'm curious what determined that because I got 4 this morning whereas another friend got 2 and one didn't mention getting any same you're the highest ive seen though, did you get alot of honor? rest of my friends got 1, but they've barely played any games where honor counts (non premade 5s) so I'm pretty sure as long as you haven't been reported you get 1 even if you didn't accrue any honor
Not really, I've had "highest honor" once and the rest of the time I'm shitting around norms with my friends and we're honoring each other. I doubt I have abnormally high honor and I'm only level 2.
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People are so fake nice for honor its borderline passive aggressive lmao
"Please group"
"Please group"
"Please group sir"
"PLEASE GROUP"
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I dislike this new fake nice bs, but it's preferable to classic flame imho
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On July 04 2017 17:31 St3MoR wrote:
I dislike this new fake nice bs, but it's preferable to classic flame imho
Not really new. The whole "unlucky  . next time will be better" instead of "you god damn fucking retard jew nigger" happened already.
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Only nafta is keeping the old ways alive...
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yeah but now instead of only the toxin guys that were afraid of riot being funny about it, everyone and their grandmother are licking asses to try and get honor :shrug: (careful, this might be a small exaggeration)
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Which honour am I suppsoed to use to mark feeders?
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On July 05 2017 05:55 Ansibled wrote:
Which honour am I suppsoed to use to mark feeders?
stayed cool, tilt proof
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a friend of mine suggested that a reporting screen similar to the honor screen should open for the losing team and after that you can honor someone if you wish so :-))))) kind of reversed opposing to winning the game and as bullshit and joke that is, I found it pretty hilarious coz probably this is what the majority of league players would really like to see xDD
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Reporting should be available in champ select, during the game, and postgame. That much has been clear since 2011.
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On July 05 2017 07:10 cLutZ wrote:
Reporting should be available in champ select, during the game, and postgame. That much has been clear since 2011.
Damn I wanna be able to triple report killerdog every game. Thatd be epic
but Id like the report system to mirror honor system. I want to report killerdog for decision making
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this new system is fucking hilarious, I got 4 key fragments and a 10 day chat ban in the same day. "nice job being sportsmanlike here's 4 key frags"
later that day...
"you're a fucking piece of shit, kys level 1 honor garbage"
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The chat ban was probably from before the honor system was implemented. This right here is proof that it works.
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Nafta is decisive evidence that it doesnt though
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Nope, I got the key fragments when I logged in and then the 3 games cited were all games I had just played later that day being toxic on purpose. Testing out how long it takes to retrieve back rewards compared to the old system for...science.
If anything it proves how worthless honor is as people just gave it to me for carrying them and 50+ honors were negated in 3 games basically.
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I haven't got a key fragment since the new system.
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I got two but I average like two games a day so don't know if that's a lot
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Clearly you don't RP farm hard enough
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im surprised people even buy RP ever since keys and chests became a thing. I get so many skins from that shit I basically have a skin for every champ I play now except one or two.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
I picked up a shitton of RP from participating in special events, such as trial runs of Riot's ranked teams replacement. (Still waiting for that to come to live ...!) But I haven't spent it lately - I'm trying to win a game on every champ this season on SR, which means that I'm not really playing any champion that often.
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On July 07 2017 03:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
im surprised people even buy RP ever since keys and chests became a thing. I get so many skins from that shit I basically have a skin for every champ I play now except one or two.
I need to get more S's. I have a crap ton of keys but no chests.
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Before the honor update I almost never got key drops, I currently have 10 chests but no keys. With the update I should be able to open them fairly soon though I guess.
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i've never been under 20 chests lol
i played enough to unlock a chest every week, especially since i play like everything but i did not play enough to get every key fragment available per month
edit:
got another delivery of 2 key fragments
this is a lot more frequent than i thought
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On July 07 2017 05:53 Fildun wrote:
Before the honor update I almost never got key drops, I currently have 10 chests but no keys. With the update I should be able to open them fairly soon though I guess.
hahahahahaahahaHAHAHAHAHAAHhaha
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You can only dream of getting as much honor as me.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
This is gonna be top 5 most satisfying ults in the game for sure
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If he can jungle (looks like he probably can) gonna be hilarious to go razor -> tank and just pop people.
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Riot thinks he's gonna end up top lane, isn't really sure though.
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That ulti is fucking glorious. Get too low in a 1v1 and you're 100% dead if the ulti is up.
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Can shotgun knees jungle?
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On July 08 2017 05:26 Amui wrote:
That ulti is fucking glorious. Get too low in a 1v1 and you're 100% dead if the ulti is up.
well, the rocket can miss so you still have a chance
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On July 08 2017 04:43 Gahlo wrote:
Riot thinks he's gonna end up top lane, isn't really sure though.
I mean thats what generic short ranged tanky hybrids tend to do, but if scaling is good, AD mid, if clear is good, he'd be a cool jungler.
If his slow percentages are nice i'm gonna try him support.
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For the record I have a 100% win rate playing with other TLers on old Urgot .
Looks like I get to take that one to my grave.
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On July 08 2017 05:26 Amui wrote:
That ulti is fucking glorious. Get too low in a 1v1 and you're 100% dead if the ulti is up.
as much as garen and darius ults are 100% death if you cast it at the right health it will kill otherwise not
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well they are melee champs this is a ranged champ with a hook that kills you
but you do have to hit it
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On July 08 2017 07:21 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2017 05:26 Amui wrote:
That ulti is fucking glorious. Get too low in a 1v1 and you're 100% dead if the ulti is up. as much as garen and darius ults are 100% death if you cast it at the right health it will kill otherwise not
I know Darius' ult doesn't go on cd if you zhonyas it, does the same happen with Garen's ult?
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Actually do you know what the difference might be, it may possibly kills even through trynd, kayle, taric and kindred ults. I don't know, but sounds possible, maybe even through zhonya
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On July 08 2017 07:59 M2 wrote:
Actually do you know what the difference might be, it may possibly kills even through trynd, kayle, taric and kindred ults. I don't know, but sounds possible, maybe even through zhonya
Well it can definitely kill through kindred ult, because you know, it can pull someone out of it.
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On July 08 2017 07:59 M2 wrote:
Actually do you know what the difference might be, it may possibly kills even through trynd, kayle, taric and kindred ults. I don't know, but sounds possible, maybe even through zhonya
You can't Zhonya's it tho, you're suppressed while he's pulling you into the grinder. Curious about interactions with Bard and Tahm Kench.
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On July 08 2017 08:22 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2017 07:59 M2 wrote:
Actually do you know what the difference might be, it may possibly kills even through trynd, kayle, taric and kindred ults. I don't know, but sounds possible, maybe even through zhonya You can't Zhonya's it tho, you're suppressed while he's pulling you into the grinder. Curious about interactions with Bard and Tahm Kench.
I mean you can probably QSS the suppression and flash away.
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On July 08 2017 08:30 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2017 08:22 Jek wrote:On July 08 2017 07:59 M2 wrote:
Actually do you know what the difference might be, it may possibly kills even through trynd, kayle, taric and kindred ults. I don't know, but sounds possible, maybe even through zhonya You can't Zhonya's it tho, you're suppressed while he's pulling you into the grinder. Curious about interactions with Bard and Tahm Kench. I mean you can probably QSS the suppression and flash away.
That would make the ult hilariously underwhelming
I mean you can do the same to skarner ult but skarner ult isnt anywhere near as epic
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Are they going with a Bane vibe for his lore or something?
Also RIP Crabgot best skin.
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On July 08 2017 09:17 Alaric wrote:
Are they going with a Bane vibe for his lore or something?
Also RIP Crabgot best skin.
Are you kidding? New Crabgot is amazing.
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On July 08 2017 05:26 Amui wrote:
That ulti is fucking glorious. Get too low in a 1v1 and you're 100% dead if the ulti is up.
looked like a skill shot at least.
also might have a tether range?
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If it doesn't have a Tether range Urgot+Ryze ult sound hilarious.
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yeah bit of an exaggeration on my part.
Still, super cool ulti.
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I do like the kit, but i feel a bit like I did with poppy. this is pretty much nothing like his old kit, it's actually more different than hers. this could be a new champ and you wouldnt alienate people who wanted to play a modernized old urgot.
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On July 08 2017 13:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
I do like the kit, but i feel a bit like I did with poppy. this is pretty much nothing like his old kit, it's actually more different than hers. this could be a new champ and you wouldnt alienate people who wanted to play a modernized old urgot.
yeah, this is no longer urgot, its something new with its name on it. If this was released as a new champ with different appearance, no one would have said: hey look its kit is similar to urgot's. Urgot got deleted
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Well the issue with Urgot wasn't that his kit didn't contain tools to win, it's that riot didn't like the tools so they balanced him in such a way that he wasn't that good. can't really keep the old kit when that is the entire reason for the rework.
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On July 09 2017 02:15 Slusher wrote:
Well the issue with Urgot wasn't that his kit didn't contain tools to win, it's that riot didn't like the tools so they balanced him in such a way that he wasn't that good. can't really keep the old kit when that is the entire reason for the rework.
I understand why they murdered his ult, its just what they do now, eliminate point and click. I don't get the end of long range homing missiles that required you to hit a short range skillshot.
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I mean you've been around here long enough to know how I feel, I'm just stating why it doesn't play anything like old Urgot
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To be fair, I get them taking out the long rage homing missiles. That shit felt bad, one misstep and you just get cleaved and feel like you can't do anything. But its worse then when you literally can't do anything because yous till get to try, LOL.
Getting hit with Canister felt worse than being hit with fatal CC like Charm or Cacoon. Imo.
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They could have just made his ult instant when cast on allies, and he'd instantly be a support pick worth considering. but eh. they want him to be this evil executioner guy, and executioners have to not be supports in league, that has no relation to his old mechanics.
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On July 09 2017 11:52 PrinceXizor wrote:
They could have just made his ult instant when cast on allies, and he'd instantly be a support pick worth considering. but eh. they want him to be this evil executioner guy, and executioners have to not be supports in league, that has no relation to his old mechanics.
Oh God. I'd love to see a support that's visually and thematically designed as this hulking evil brute, no merry goody two-shoes or emo like Thresh just a plain old menacing tool of violence. Yeah, I know Sion is a strong support, but I mean a champion that's actually meant to be played as support.
Retcon Alistar into a berserker rito.
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I think like a legit king's executioner support would be cool. I think it kind of makes sense as a support thematically too... like no executioner went out and got a guy, they just chop heads off guys already tied up. I dunno if Medieval executioners even really knew how to fight.
Like R could be a guillotine just do big damage a guy who is CC'd by a teammate and then giving gold and/or stat bonuses to an Allie.
Q could be like giving a CC to an Allie's Auto-attack.
W could be like terrain-style CC (that doesn't work with his ult), cage or something similar to Anivia wall
E could be giving damage to an allie to help get them low enough to execute.
That would be sweet. Can confirm would play support. Rito pls.
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trundle's best role has been support for a while and the buffs only confirmed that, he is pretty much the only bad guy that is support right now. stoneborn is insane on him and his ultimate wasnt balanced around being used by a support. He legit has almost nothing that scales off anything, definition of just a big ball of stats for your team.
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On July 10 2017 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
trundle's best role has been support for a while and the buffs only confirmed that, he is pretty much the only bad guy that is support right now. stoneborn is insane on him and his ultimate wasnt balanced around being used by a support. He legit has almost nothing that scales off anything, definition of just a big ball of stats for your team.
Yah, but he's almost nothing other than a big ball of stats. He doesn't really offer much of anything in lane especially against ranged and he has what's perhaps the hardest skill shot in the game.
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On July 10 2017 22:53 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2017 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
trundle's best role has been support for a while and the buffs only confirmed that, he is pretty much the only bad guy that is support right now. stoneborn is insane on him and his ultimate wasnt balanced around being used by a support. He legit has almost nothing that scales off anything, definition of just a big ball of stats for your team. Yah, but he's almost nothing other than a big ball of stats. He doesn't really offer much of anything in lane especially against ranged and he has what's perhaps the hardest skill shot in the game.
that's why hes a good meta counter right now, only blitz/thresh see play/bans in higher elo now, some rakan/janna/etc too but trundle also destroys rakan. you cant trap rakan like you can blitz/thresh but you can pillar his dash if you're good
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On July 10 2017 22:53 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2017 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
trundle's best role has been support for a while and the buffs only confirmed that, he is pretty much the only bad guy that is support right now. stoneborn is insane on him and his ultimate wasnt balanced around being used by a support. He legit has almost nothing that scales off anything, definition of just a big ball of stats for your team. Yah, but he's almost nothing other than a big ball of stats. He doesn't really offer much of anything in lane especially against ranged and he has what's perhaps the hardest skill shot in the game.
Why do you consider Trundle's E as the hardest skill shot in the game? I would say that its moderately hard actually. Of course if you want to hit the knock up always in the desired direction it could be one of the hardest, but most of the time you only need to block their path and slow them with a skill shot that has enormous range and insta cast.
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trundle E being the hardest skillshot in the game is such a meme
no idea who's spreading that lel
its instant cast making it one of the easiest skillshots in the game automatically
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guess it depends on what hes talking about, just blocking people with it or doing the knockup/slow = LOL
learning and mastering all the trundle pillar interactions you can do like blocking blitz hook/rakan dash/lee sin q/etc = very hard.
just the lee sin one has probably saved me 10-ish barons/dragons
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Ditto using the Trundle pillar to trap people against walls.
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On July 11 2017 03:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
guess it depends on what hes talking about, just blocking people with it or doing the knockup/slow = LOL
learning and mastering all the trundle pillar interactions you can do like blocking blitz hook/rakan dash/lee sin q/etc = very hard.
just the lee sin one has probably saved me 10-ish barons/dragons
Blocking dashes is just a ping check while actually trapping people is significantly harder.
The only difficult part about blocking dashes is being really fast when your ping is high so you can make them stop on the right side of the pillar.
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guess ive played too much trundle then, that's just a knowledge thing like riven wall jumps knowing the places where you can do that. assuming everyone is on the same ping, still most people dont have fast enough reflexes to block things like lee Q or blitz hook.
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On July 11 2017 02:15 Slayer91 wrote:
trundle E being the hardest skillshot in the game is such a meme
no idea who's spreading that lel
its instant cast making it one of the easiest skillshots in the game automatically
Trundle's Pillar is capable of a shit ton more than just slow or block out a path. It's the various interactions capable similar to Thresh's flay. Like it's capable of literally cockblocking a huge number of plays, but unlike Flay it's much harder to time/hit .
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If you pick Trundle to cockblock plays why dont you just play Janna~
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You don't pick Janna to auto attack either, but if you don't you're doing it wrong. Lol.
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because picking janna almost automatically cedes lane pressure to the blitz/thresh unless you have cait/draven and they don't. You also probably won't be making use of knight's vow, a disgusting item right now. And the biggest reason, most team comps rely on one massive tank like zac/galio/jarvan/etc in this meta. If they can't reliably engage without being melted, it takes a lot of pressure off your team to watch out for engages and then you can be the ones to create the engage. this is support trundle's biggest strength imo, you dictate all engages. Janna can only retroactively deny an engage, trundle controls both sides of it with pillar and his ult.
As an add on, having the meatshield in your support role opens up more damage to be played in jungle/top lane, which usually is good for 2v2 purposes. top/jungle with more damage almost always wins since they can easily just focus the less tanky one if other side is tank + damage.
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