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Patch 6.23: Live on Nov. 22nd, 2016
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So being able to go red krugs (or in some weird cases krugs red*) gank at level 3 after 2 camps seems really powerful. Since a blue start needs three camps before it can level 3 gank. Does this put blue start junglers at a disadvantage and limit gank paths?
It also seems really catastrophic to have krugs stolen. If you know they are redside and start blue you could take your blue, invade and take krugs instead of red and then gank lane from behind at level 3 super fast. Again not sure if this is better than just taking red, but it does deny more xp and support a faster gank.
*niche case, but I did a few tests and if shaco pre sets boxes at krugs starting at around 105 you have 3-4 boxes ready and the krugs basicly melt on spawn instead of taking forever to clear. I'm not sure it's actually faster then red krugs since they do spawn late; but they also take forever to clear conventionaly. Krugs reds also sets you much closer to mid so if you want to gank there instead of bottom it might work.
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Damn, is Ekko the worst possible ARAM champion? I rarely play it, but this was horrible.
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Personally I think Aatrox is the worst at the moment. Super auto attack reliant, always fighting enemies 5v5 so lifesteal isn't even that great, one very slow, hard to hit CC that can be flashed by any one with a pea brain (and will be often, since flash is on a low CD now), not much upside if he builds tanky.
I think Ekko is serviceable, but you have to be good at him (and I suck with him, so I always lose with him in ARAM).
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On November 25 2016 15:06 cLutZ wrote:
Damn, is Ekko the worst possible ARAM champion? I rarely play it, but this was horrible.
I don't get what the problem with Ekko is. Spam Q, ult people.
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ekko is pretty good as far as melees go
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On November 25 2016 13:49 General_Winter wrote:
So being able to go red krugs (or in some weird cases krugs red*) gank at level 3 after 2 camps seems really powerful. Since a blue start needs three camps before it can level 3 gank. Does this put blue start junglers at a disadvantage and limit gank paths?
It also seems really catastrophic to have krugs stolen. If you know they are redside and start blue you could take your blue, invade and take krugs instead of red and then gank lane from behind at level 3 super fast. Again not sure if this is better than just taking red, but it does deny more xp and support a faster gank.
*niche case, but I did a few tests and if shaco pre sets boxes at krugs starting at around 105 you have 3-4 boxes ready and the krugs basicly melt on spawn instead of taking forever to clear. I'm not sure it's actually faster then red krugs since they do spawn late; but they also take forever to clear conventionaly. Krugs reds also sets you much closer to mid so if you want to gank there instead of bottom it might work.
Red-> krugs does seem stupid powerful....being able to gank at lvl 3 when the laners will be lvl 1. Seems stronger on red side though isnce ganking top is much more likely to succeed than ganking bot.
But people will learn this is a common path now and change play patterns/ward timings accordingly? Weird early gank paths like this are punishable by counter jungling, if the early gank doesn't work.
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Rammus felt miserable whenever I got him because you don't have much room to dodge linear cc or slow fields, and without Flash you do literally nothing against line-ups with enough ranged people. At least somebody like Darius has an AoE on his pull, Garen can regen super fast and facetank cc and other skillshots, etc.
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Is it a good plan to start blue, do enemy krugs and then attack the other jungler at his red ? Assuming hes gonna go for full clear
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On November 25 2016 18:21 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2016 15:06 cLutZ wrote:
Damn, is Ekko the worst possible ARAM champion? I rarely play it, but this was horrible. I don't get what the problem with Ekko is. Spam Q, ult people.
I never play Aram, so who knows, but I could not hit Q or W on anyone.
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i ult twitch as full ad Vi get instantly exhausted, he gets shielded for 50% of his hp and healed for similar amount from redemption, indeed feels like assassin meta /s
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The fact that some junglers can go Red-Krugs and then gank bot before either side is even level 2 is insanely dumb, can't wait to see that shit happen once or twice in LCS or LCK and then literally everyone in the competitive scene cry fowl.
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or everyone will just ward lvl1 and not die to a cheese when ur jungler takes opposite map camps from enemy jungler
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The problem is that it's still worth it with the ward and the enemy counterjungling you.
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On November 26 2016 05:57 Fildun wrote:
The problem is that it's still worth it with the ward and the enemy counterjungling you.
This. People underestimate "failed" early ganks. In competitive if the enemy jungler tries taking your blue side after such a gank, you will just take his blue side...
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On November 26 2016 05:38 Kinie wrote:
The fact that some junglers can go Red-Krugs and then gank bot before either side is even level 2 is insanely dumb, can't wait to see that shit happen once or twice in LCS or LCK and then literally everyone in the competitive scene cry fowl.
Won't they just have the bot lane take Krugs, or is that too slow?
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What about just the big one?
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