I remember people dodging all day because I picked him and just giving up.
[Patch 6.14] What is Ryze General Discussion - Page 7
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iCanada
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I remember people dodging all day because I picked him and just giving up. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
As for the question 1) I am thinking Shen, Corki, Janna, Morgana, Maokai, Gragas, Lee Sin are all strong contenders depending on how you define the meta. A few of these champions have had consistent roles (Maokai) and a few have swapped around (gragas from AP mid to tank top to jungle, Morgana from mid to support), some have been strong in competitive the entire time but shit in solo and some strong in solo but shit in competitive. 2) I am thinking: Azir, Reksai, Elise, Ekko, Thresh, maybe Kalista, maybe zed I would not pick Alistar because he was not that great a support early until he was picked up in the jungle and abused. After he was nerfed out of the jungle he saw a very long stretch where he wasn't good until buffs brought him back. Ezreal for similar reasons. He had too long a stretch where he was just plain bad, both before the W max was discovered, and after W max was nerfed. | ||
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Frolossus
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Slusher
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kongoline
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Ezreal has stood the test of time for a very long time. I did a quick once over of the champ list and yea I don't see any other champ thats been out as long as him and been in meta as often. the second question is even easier, reksai has never been out of meta since release basically. Maybe theres some that tie reksai at 99% but thats an easy answer to the question. | ||
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Gahlo
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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JimmiC
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On July 19 2016 00:43 JimmiC wrote: Sona is officially broken right now. I was playing her tons before this patch and she was good. Now it is just bonkers. get the freelo before the bans and nerfs show up. Yeah. I agree. She's decently strong in lane and scales absolutely monstrously for a support. Definitely a top tier at least in soloQ. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 19 2016 00:43 JimmiC wrote: Sona is officially broken right now. I was playing her tons before this patch and she was good. Now it is just bonkers. get the freelo before the bans and nerfs show up. Yup, and Leona dropped a little over 5%. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
combined with the fact that Sona. who she traditionally does well against is seeing a ton of play, I think it's pretty clear her changes were a nerf. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 19 2016 01:17 Slusher wrote: combined with the fact that Sona. who she traditionally does well against is seeing a ton of play, I think it's pretty clear her changes were a nerf. Doesn't help that the buffs in her changes went in early last patch, so it was a pure nerf this patch. | ||
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Uldridge
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 19 2016 00:34 General_Winter wrote: Wow they really went over board with the kindred nerfs. Looks like she's down to 43% win rate on champion gg. Hope they revert some of that since she used to be really fun (all that hopping around) LOL yeah. I dunno, I said they'd shot can her before, no one believed me. I think they gonna rework her; removing the health in conjunction with the armor made her lose almost 400 ehp in level 3 duels. Ridiculously huge nerf for a champion who won the game by creating early snowballs. I'd rather jungle kog or ezreal. She is so weak at early levels. Her late game isn't awful but getting there is too hard. It isn't good enough considering how picking her often shapes poor fight comps with low cc, low peel, and poor ability to soak damage aside from lambs respite. Her kit is too reliant on skirmishing / ganking / counter jungking for scaling to be as poor as she is at dueling. She can't farm for late because all her damage is from marks after the Q and passive changes a few patches ago. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
PS: I don't think Leona ever did particularly well against Sona. And she certainly does not right now. Leona's worst winrate is vs Sona. | ||
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Jek
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Slayer91
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ticklishmusic
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