EPT[Patch 6.7] Almost Outrageous General Discussion - Page 17
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
voli flair: "anyone think voli is secret stronk" janna flair: "why does ashe seem to good wtf" on a completely unrelated note, anyone else think quinn teemo and vayne top players are the scum of the earth? | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6185 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On April 15 2016 00:31 Slayer91 wrote: most peoples posts can be explained by their flair voli flair: "anyone think, voli is secret stronk" janna flair: "why does ashe seem to good wtf" on a completely unrelated note, anyone else think quinn teemo and vayne top players are the scum of the earth? Vayne top did nothing wrong. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On April 15 2016 00:47 Ansibled wrote: We really need a detailed list of what your flair says about you, maybe you can judge people from items too. there was a dark period in times of tank items where I legit went 2 or 3 randuins on garen and possibly udyr I can't remember | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
Until she feed the Illaoi out of her mind. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 15 2016 00:52 Slayer91 wrote: there was a dark period in times of tank items where I legit went 2 or 3 randuins on garen and possibly udyr I can't remember We all know it was all about the 4 gold items top laners | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On April 15 2016 00:31 Slayer91 wrote: most peoples posts can be explained by their flair voli flair: "anyone think voli is secret stronk" janna flair: "why does ashe seem to good wtf" on a completely unrelated note, anyone else think quinn teemo and vayne top players are the scum of the earth? They're horrible people, but there's a special place in hell for ppl who play Graves top. It's just not fun, and ppl don't know how to deal with it (actually, what is a good counter to Graves top?). It's just absurd that whenever I go into a normal game to practice top, ppl lock in ignite Graves, so anti fun. On a side note, Janna and Soraka could use some nerfs again. I've won too many lanes bc my Janna knew what she was doing, and vice versa playing against those two champs is tiring, literally playing on knife's edge trying to harass opponents out of lane, while one mistake can end up with you down to 50% health and enemy carry at full. And ppl need to stop picking Thresh as their standard support, unless they're legit good at him. A passive Thresh player (there's a lot of those in Plat) don't seem to understand that they're the biggest reason their carry is 20 cs down and being zoned hard. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
garen malphite jax all probably work okay too theres a period of irelia v graves where he can bully you and then you just oneshot him every time he stands next to a creep and cries in all chat im playing vs bad players though but then who isnt | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On April 15 2016 02:59 Slayer91 wrote: dunno I recently just always pick irelia so graves gets dumpstered garen malphite jax all probably work okay too theres a period of irelia v graves where he can bully you and then you just oneshot him every time he stands next to a creep and cries in all chat im playing vs bad players though but then who isnt Isn't that like every Irelia matchup when she's decently strong though? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On April 14 2016 22:48 Jek wrote: I'm really starting to grow fond of Ashe adcs, she trade mobility for amzing kite and an ultimate that can just randomly win a game despite being far behind. Her damage with a few items looks amazingly high, I dont know if they are just getting more autos in with their in-direct selfpeel or her Q and passive simply just add so much more damage than I thought. Depends a lot on her support/enemy support imo. Her self peel actually kind of sucks because her base move speed means that even with high slow on her passive most melees will be faster than her anyway. So if the enemy has any kind of way to get to you you're probably done. If you're with or against a karma is really strong. But if you're say, with a Braum, against an Alistar? You may have issues since Braum can't peel Ali's combo. Weak with Janna*, strong against Janna. On the other hand Ashe's DPS with her Q up is really high. IIRC Its the highest in the game for all AD's. Except maybe for rageblade AD's. Additionally the inability to cast it when fully charged makes it a lot easier for people to not mess up and not get full Q damage. I find Q's attack animation kind of wonky and hard to use unless you've got a good "turret" setup though but that might just be me. The biggest thing with regards to this is that it lots its cooldown. Rather than being on a timer you simply can use it any time you've got 4 focus. So in a team fight prior to the most recent changes you would have 5 attacks -> Q->10 second CD->Q. And now you have 4 attacks->Q->4 attacks->Q. So its a lot easier to keep up in team fights where you're not getting wrecked. I think she actually lost a bit of power with the most recent itemization changes since her primary high DPS advantage is offset the higher everyone has crit(since she may not get the bonus damage on her first attack), so the big 80% crit builds all the AD's are running eats into her ability to fight if the enemy isn't slowed before she attacks them. That being said she is still weaker overall since the big rework  *Janna doesn't have a good way to get a melee off your AD's face besides her ult, and so works a lot better if they have their own dash. Similar to Nami. At the same time, Janna doesn't have any way to stop Ashe from doing DPS except hope her AD is stronger/their support can't peel. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On April 15 2016 02:54 DarkCore wrote: They're horrible people, but there's a special place in hell for ppl who play Graves top. It's just not fun, and ppl don't know how to deal with it (actually, what is a good counter to Graves top?). It's just absurd that whenever I go into a normal game to practice top, ppl lock in ignite Graves, so anti fun. On a side note, Janna and Soraka could use some nerfs again. I've won too many lanes bc my Janna knew what she was doing, and vice versa playing against those two champs is tiring, literally playing on knife's edge trying to harass opponents out of lane, while one mistake can end up with you down to 50% health and enemy carry at full. And ppl need to stop picking Thresh as their standard support, unless they're legit good at him. A passive Thresh player (there's a lot of those in Plat) don't seem to understand that they're the biggest reason their carry is 20 cs down and being zoned hard. I love playing graves top.. I hate the tank tops and he just crushes them so hard early. He has problems with Riven and other bruisers that can get on you and CC you. Someone said Irelia but I think she is far too weak early, graves will push you out of lane twice before 6 if you dont get jungle help. I think Riven is best because at level 3 you have 4 dashes, a stun and a shield. Graves will go oom trading and at 6 Riven can just flash on your face and kill you. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On April 15 2016 02:54 DarkCore wrote: On a side note, Janna and Soraka could use some nerfs again. I've won too many lanes bc my Janna knew what she was doing, and vice versa playing against those two champs is tiring, literally playing on knife's edge trying to harass opponents out of lane, while one mistake can end up with you down to 50% health and enemy carry at full. And ppl need to stop picking Thresh as their standard support, unless they're legit good at him. A passive Thresh player (there's a lot of those in Plat) don't seem to understand that they're the biggest reason their carry is 20 cs down and being zoned hard. Janna is kind of weak right now imo. There are a lot of melees for her to peel well but at the moment Karma does about everything she does but better and also has more options to engage. The reason that Karma doesn't look as high on champion.gg win rate is because people have no clue how to play her.(they start Q and max Q! Idiots*) sort of how Soraka's win rate is lower than it should be for the same reason(they start W and max W! Idiots) Soraka however, is indeed OP as shit *They're also building terrible, skipping CDR for pen and AP. You've got a move speed boosting shield on an 8 second base CD, use that shit! | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
like even if you force her to blow her ult she still heals adc +anyone close to full+a new shield and the adc got the insane janna ad boost. I'm not talking about lane obviously karma has a strong lane phase with q poke don't know why you wouldn't max Q. E seems weak in lane and great later while Q is the opposite I mean statistically janna and ashe both have great winrates while karma has one of the worst for a non-troll support you can claim that "nobody knows how to play her" but it's going to be hard to convincingly prove that your way of playing is objectively stronger Also according to champion.gg, graves countered by irelia (irelia win rate up to 52% from 49%) | ||
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