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On December 02 2015 07:08 Saradin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip>
Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former. If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates). Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
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On December 02 2015 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote:
Anyone want to take bets/ predict TSM's record? I'm guessing 1 loss
Maybe in summer split, gunna take a couple of games to get used to roster. I can easily see them dropping a few games to CLG/C9, and some other top 5 team.
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On December 02 2015 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote:
The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors. How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support. It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Too many unknowns. Team synergy, other rosters, import quality, how Yellowstar/Sven adjust culturally, how Yellowstar's shotcalling works out. A lot of stuff TSM has had issues dealing with long-term.
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On December 02 2015 08:34 MuddyJam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 07:08 Saradin wrote:On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip>
Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former. If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates). Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that. ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals.
(edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules)
The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences.
So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion.
Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series.
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On December 02 2015 07:28 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
People are panicing like NA took 80+ players from EU, lol.
There are literally 7 Europeans in NA LCS so far if you don't count RFLegendary.
Bjergsen, Svenskeren, YellOwStaR, AlexIch, Kirei, SmittyJ and Incarnati0n.
Unless all the talent from EUCS is going to leave to NA, I don't see a single reason to be worried or whatever. Froggen also very likely though.
Even if Froggen and dexter leave, Europe can just fill the teams with rookies and grow more and more.
If Europe turns into the proving grounds for new players, who're going to be sold into other teams, I'm ready to watch it endlessly.
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On December 02 2015 08:43 Saradin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 08:34 MuddyJam wrote:On December 02 2015 07:08 Saradin wrote:On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip>
Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former. If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates). Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that. ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals. (edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules) The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences. So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion. Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series.
Like this?
http://smite.esportspedia.com/wiki/SMITE_Pro_League/Season_2/Spring_Multi-Region_LAN
http://smite.esportspedia.com/wiki/SMITE_Pro_League/Season_2/Summer_Finals
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On December 02 2015 08:59 Wijnruit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 08:43 Saradin wrote:On December 02 2015 08:34 MuddyJam wrote:On December 02 2015 07:08 Saradin wrote:On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip>
Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former. If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates). Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that. ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals. (edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules) The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences. So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion. Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series. Like this? http://smite.esportspedia.com/wiki/SMITE_Pro_League/Season_2/Spring_Multi-Region_LANhttp://smite.esportspedia.com/wiki/SMITE_Pro_League/Season_2/Summer_Finals
Smite tilts me for its use of the #SPL hashtag.
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On December 02 2015 09:09 ticklishmusic wrote:![[image loading]](http://s10.postimg.org/4kfet7vy1/tweet.png)
What?
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On December 02 2015 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote:
The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors. How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support. It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
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Although it looks like Quas is not possible to be used now, if somehoe TSM was to get him, we'd have one hell of a strong tsm.
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On December 02 2015 11:26 F1rstAssau1t wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote:
The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors. How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support. It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked. Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
I think SKT and Koo only teams that are intact?
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So I guess it's safe to assume that almost half of the "NA" LCS will be foreigners, that's cool. Worked out well for SC2.
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My application for Riot storywriter:
SKT destroys groups but falls 3-2 to a seemingly struggling VG. VG has struggled because EZhoon hurt his wrist early on after crashing his new lambo and he's been alternating games with a D2 player which is all VG could afford. However, EZhoon shows up for semis-- his team loses the first 2 games, then he out-Hai's Hai by going even games 3 and 4 then destroying Faker so badly that Faker pauses the game to announce his retirement. Ezhoon sub's out to preserve his wrist and the backup midlaner somehow scores a pentakill.
On the other side of the bracket, Yellowstar makes it to worlds again (duh). TSM does well in groups, then manages to eke out wins in brackets in a way that convinces them that NA is just getting lucky. All of a sudden it's the semis against TPA (which has more or less reassembled their S2 roster), which has somehow knocked out OG after a power outage forced a regame. TPA manages to get ahead each game and throw, everyone complains that this side of the bracket is weaker than the other. TSM is now in the finals.
TSM vs. VG in the finals. IDK what to write anymore. Err, boom the world explodes.
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On December 02 2015 11:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 11:26 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On December 02 2015 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote:
The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors. How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support. It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked. Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds. I think SKT and Koo only teams that are intact?
SKT lost Marin, Easyhoon, and Tom
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On December 02 2015 12:14 rebdomine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 11:41 wei2coolman wrote:On December 02 2015 11:26 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On December 02 2015 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote:
The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors. How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support. It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked. Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds. I think SKT and Koo only teams that are intact? SKT lost Marin, Easyhoon, and Tom
You mean, lost Marin. Let's be honest here, Ezhoon and Tom weren't exactly SKT strengths.
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On December 02 2015 11:32 Coldbolt wrote:
Although it looks like Quas is not possible to be used now, if somehoe TSM was to get him, we'd have one hell of a strong tsm.
Hauntzer is a better fit, Quas struggled this year when not given a fair amount of resources and jungle attention, while also being a fairly poor engager. He'll never get carry-type resources on this team.
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