As the League of Legends off-season progresses, we've taken stock of what's been an amazingly successful year for Fnatic. For some, it’s been a time of reflection on many years of Fnatic achievements. After five years of playing in Europe, and many triumphant years at the heart of our League of Legends team, Bora “YellOwStaR” Kim has decided he needs a change of scenery in order to start a new adventure. As a result, we’ve some further news to share regarding our League of Legends team...
Bora "Yellowstar" Kim - Starting today, I will no longer be part of Fnatic. My Esports journey as a real professional player all started in 2013. It was a tough choice, a huge turn in my life to finally decide to quit university to take a lifetime opportunity to experience this amazing path and get to work with awesome people. In the first place, I want to thank the 2013 League of Legends' roster for choosing me over other players. I was joining the biggest European team and with such players, it is hard to show that you are the missing piece of the puzzle, to gain the trust from your teammates, staff and the fans. It was with a lot of pressure that I accepted to face this challenge.
Three years passed by, and i can tell you that we tried our very best every day, every minute of the time we had in front of us to train and play. I’m incredibly proud of this 5 EU LCS titles we grabbed out of 6 possible, without missing these both Top 3/4 at Worlds 2013 & 2015 ! To speak out the truth, I had a bit of a shaky year earlier this season. Being left alone in the team was not an easy task to handle, either for me of the Fnatic management, and i had a lot of thoughts about whether retiring or not. I almost gave up, i have to admit. Imagine yourself in front of the Everest mountains that you have to climb in a very short period of time, with a huge storm approaching, and you get an image of what was ahead of us. The fact is that in my inner self, i couldn’t accept to jump out from a tough situation. Fnatic gave me so much, you guys gave me so much with your support, that I had to get this team back on track.
Being grateful and loyal is a part of me, and that was the least I could do.
Here we are today: Huni & ReignOver left the team, leaving me again in a difficult position : either building a new team or considering other options. It’s never a good thing to hear, but after careful overall reflection, I had the opportunity to join a team being at my best level inNorth America and get the chance to experience a new lifestyle and environment.
After a careful overall reflection, i took the decision to join the North American LCS for the 2016 season.
Finally, I honestly want to thank everyone that I met and got to work with, from teammates to people involved in the Fnatic organization and all the fans that supported me throughout the years.
I hope that you will understand my decision and will continue to support me in my career!
Even if it's TSM Yolostar, I'm not sure that compliments DL's aggressive botlane style. Yolostar is much more roam and vision heavy, and less so lane dominant player. DL will definitely have to tone it down, but that has a much bigger impact on his ability to get lane leads. Remember Yolostar's ADC's have historically been panzy passive laners, either DL or Yolostar has to change for this to work out.
They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
On December 02 2015 05:23 nafta wrote: They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
Aggressive doesn't mean just going for a kill, it also means forward positioning in lane. If you watch a lot of Rush Hour botlane, you'll often see Aphro and DL play WAY far ahead in lane compared to most botlanes.
On December 02 2015 05:23 nafta wrote: They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
Aggressive doesn't mean just going for a kill, it also means forward positioning in lane. If you watch a lot of Rush Hour botlane, you'll often see Aphro and DL play WAY far ahead in lane compared to most botlanes.
Exactly. But playing a bit ahead can't do much other than give you a few more cs which doesn't matter.
The only lane in lcs that has ever truly played aggressive consistently was forgiven/unlimited.
Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
On December 02 2015 05:23 nafta wrote: They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
Aggressive doesn't mean just going for a kill, it also means forward positioning in lane. If you watch a lot of Rush Hour botlane, you'll often see Aphro and DL play WAY far ahead in lane compared to most botlanes.
Exactly. But playing a bit ahead can't do much other than give you a few more cs which doesn't matter.
The only lane in lcs that has ever truly played aggressive consistently was forgiven/unlimited.
Playing ahead isn't just about CS, it's about creating map pressure. Also pretty sure the DL's gold by 10min stat is proof thats it's more than just a "few more cs". Summer of 2015, he average 206 gold differential at 10minutes. Approximately 8-9 cs difference worth of gold. With around 80-90 cs per 10 minutes being competitive average, having a 11-12% cs lead is huge, pretty good indicator of lane dominance.
Excluding emporer (due to lack of games). Maplestreet was 2nd highest GoldDiff@10 min at 86 gold, with 3rd being piglet at 56. I think that's pretty telling of how lane dominant DL is.
On December 02 2015 05:45 Airheart wrote: Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
On December 02 2015 05:45 Airheart wrote: Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
It's always been like this...
Well if H2K get the team that's been leaked I expect them to hopefully still crush NA. I hope . EU keep strong. Fighto!
On December 02 2015 05:23 nafta wrote: They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
Aggressive doesn't mean just going for a kill, it also means forward positioning in lane. If you watch a lot of Rush Hour botlane, you'll often see Aphro and DL play WAY far ahead in lane compared to most botlanes.
Exactly. But playing a bit ahead can't do much other than give you a few more cs which doesn't matter.
The only lane in lcs that has ever truly played aggressive consistently was forgiven/unlimited.
Playing ahead isn't just about CS, it's about creating map pressure. Also pretty sure the DL's gold by 10min stat is proof thats it's more than just a "few more cs". Summer of 2015, he average 206 gold differential at 10minutes. Approximately 8-9 cs difference worth of gold. With around 80-90 cs per 10 minutes being competitive average, having a 11-12% cs lead is huge, pretty good indicator of lane dominance.
Excluding emporer (due to lack of games). Maplestreet was 2nd highest GoldDiff@10 min at 86 gold, with 3rd being piglet at 56. I think that's pretty telling of how lane dominant DL is.
That was mostly because of laneswaps not actual 2v2.
On December 02 2015 05:45 Airheart wrote: Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
It's always been like this...
Well if H2K get the team that's been leaked I expect them to hopefully still crush NA. I hope . EU keep strong. Fighto!
I think EU will be fine; they got a decent crop of upcomers like Perkz, Sencux and Hybrid in LCS as well as yet to be realized talents like Beansu, Flaxxish and BetongJocke and Origen with PoE could imo be even better than S5 Fantic.
On December 02 2015 05:45 Airheart wrote: Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
Brain drain's the other direction; it describes people leaving. So, Korea and EU would be the brain drain regions here.
That aside, well then, things continue to get more interesting. I love sports offseasons.
On December 02 2015 05:23 nafta wrote: They really don't. Nobody plays that aggressive in competetive in lane. Everyone just passive farms. Even if laneswaps completely dissapear it won't matter much.
DL Uzi Forgiven Imp (lesser extent)
But these guys all play pretty oppressive laning phases.
This is kinda dum at this point. EU has just been gutted. I've watched eulcs for years now but might as well swap to the better sat/sun schedule and watch the best eu players. Not blaming the players though. From sounds of the money is non existent in EU. So unless your some super streamer there is little point in staying.
I don't see how EU just doesn't die at this point and become just origin. Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
People are panicing like NA took 80+ players from EU, lol.
There are literally 7 Europeans in NA LCS so far if you don't count RFLegendary.
Bjergsen, Svenskeren, YellOwStaR, AlexIch, Kirei, SmittyJ and Incarnati0n. Unless all the talent from EUCS is going to leave to NA, I don't see a single reason to be worried or whatever.
Yellowstar can probably reign in his stupidity. Kept Huni on a leash for god knows how long.
As long as that rumored Fnatic roster with Gilius isn't true, I've got a feeling they can still pull something together. Since I don't give a shit about regions, it's a lot more interesting for the implications. Will this make EU orgs offer more in the future? If/Probably when this blows up for most of these NA teams, will any EU/KR exports go back? Which of these new NA randos is actually committed and not just in it to fill old holes and make LCS cash?
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
On December 02 2015 06:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: People are panicing like NA took 80+ players from EU, lol.
There are literally 7 Europeans in NA LCS so far if you don't count RFLegendary.
Bjergsen, Svenskeren, YellOwStaR, AlexIch, Kirei, SmittyJ and Incarnati0n. Unless all the talent from EUCS is going to leave to NA, I don't see a single reason to be worried or whatever.
On December 02 2015 06:57 Caiada wrote: Since I don't give a shit about regions, it's a lot more interesting for the implications. Will this make EU orgs offer more in the future?
"Finally, we’re tripling our investment into LoL to ensure that we’re a competitive force in League of Legends for many more years to come - look out for further announcements soon." Fnatic sure will offer more, it's int the Yellowstar leaving announcement.
On December 02 2015 06:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: People are panicing like NA took 80+ players from EU, lol.
There are literally 7 Europeans in NA LCS so far if you don't count RFLegendary.
Bjergsen, Svenskeren, YellOwStaR, AlexIch, Kirei, SmittyJ and Incarnati0n. Unless all the talent from EUCS is going to leave to NA, I don't see a single reason to be worried or whatever.
Froggen also very likely though.
I kind of assume Dexter+player x go with him. I've been wrong before though. Relatively certain Tabzz has no interest in coming to NA so not sure who they'd recruit.
On December 02 2015 06:57 Caiada wrote: Since I don't give a shit about regions, it's a lot more interesting for the implications. Will this make EU orgs offer more in the future?
"Finally, we’re tripling our investment into LoL to ensure that we’re a competitive force in League of Legends for many more years to come - look out for further announcements soon." Fnatic sure will offer more, it's int the Yellowstar leaving announcement.
Sure, but one org's PR announcement doesn't mean a lot systemically. I mean I would hope they would increase investment after 60% of their roster leaves, but whether that lasts and what it'll mean across the season is a completely different thing.
On December 02 2015 05:45 Airheart wrote: Christ NA, EU is not a corpse for you to pick apart like this. Man I love these players and as a trash NA guy I should be happy but it really just feels like we've become the brain drain region.
Brain drain's the other direction; it describes people leaving. So, Korea and EU would be the brain drain regions here.
That aside, well then, things continue to get more interesting. I love sports offseasons.
Perhaps NA picks only players that won't be very good in EU anymore.
Anyway that's sad - Fnatic is seriously crippled, I don't see what could stop Origen.
On December 02 2015 08:02 Gahlo wrote: Makes me curious about where Piccaboo is going to go that isn't TSM. Who in the west is still looking for a support?
Could be the IM superteam that Longzhu was going on about. Alicius was suggesting that it's H2K.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
On December 02 2015 08:31 ticklishmusic wrote: Anyone want to take bets/ predict TSM's record? I'm guessing 1 loss
Maybe in summer split, gunna take a couple of games to get used to roster. I can easily see them dropping a few games to CLG/C9, and some other top 5 team.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Too many unknowns. Team synergy, other rosters, import quality, how Yellowstar/Sven adjust culturally, how Yellowstar's shotcalling works out. A lot of stuff TSM has had issues dealing with long-term.
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals. (edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules) The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences.
So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion. Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series.
On December 02 2015 06:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: People are panicing like NA took 80+ players from EU, lol.
There are literally 7 Europeans in NA LCS so far if you don't count RFLegendary.
Bjergsen, Svenskeren, YellOwStaR, AlexIch, Kirei, SmittyJ and Incarnati0n. Unless all the talent from EUCS is going to leave to NA, I don't see a single reason to be worried or whatever.
Froggen also very likely though.
Even if Froggen and dexter leave, Europe can just fill the teams with rookies and grow more and more. If Europe turns into the proving grounds for new players, who're going to be sold into other teams, I'm ready to watch it endlessly.
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals. (edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules) The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences.
So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion. Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series.
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
Oh, that's a thing that also happens/used to happen, with NFL (NFC and AFC) and MLB (National League and American League) at least, although I know that with MLB, interleague games have been added to the regular season schedule over the past couple of decades. IIRC, that sort of thing stems from two separate leagues in the past then merging together as equals. (edit: Note that internally within the conferences/leagues of NFL and MLB, there are still geography based divisions with the respective unbalanced schedules) The terminology's a little inconsistent, since when I saw 'conferences', I was immediately thinking along the lines of basketball and hockey, which do divide into east and west conferences.
So if you want to merge the two LCS regions a la NFL/MLB, then it'd probably be more like... keep things the same for the most part, but then after the respective regional finals, you have a series between the NA champion and the EU champion to determine the overall LCS champion. Edit: Trickiest thing in that situation is probably determining which location hosts the series.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
SKT destroys groups but falls 3-2 to a seemingly struggling VG. VG has struggled because EZhoon hurt his wrist early on after crashing his new lambo and he's been alternating games with a D2 player which is all VG could afford. However, EZhoon shows up for semis-- his team loses the first 2 games, then he out-Hai's Hai by going even games 3 and 4 then destroying Faker so badly that Faker pauses the game to announce his retirement. Ezhoon sub's out to preserve his wrist and the backup midlaner somehow scores a pentakill.
On the other side of the bracket, Yellowstar makes it to worlds again (duh). TSM does well in groups, then manages to eke out wins in brackets in a way that convinces them that NA is just getting lucky. All of a sudden it's the semis against TPA (which has more or less reassembled their S2 roster), which has somehow knocked out OG after a power outage forced a regame. TPA manages to get ahead each game and throw, everyone complains that this side of the bracket is weaker than the other. TSM is now in the finals.
TSM vs. VG in the finals. IDK what to write anymore. Err, boom the world explodes.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
On December 02 2015 08:09 Caiada wrote: The baylife in me wants to be optimistic but the S5 realist says they'll crash and burn somehow.
Piccaboo in China sounds ridiculously likely. I'll believe H2K hype when I see literally anything but vague rumors.
How do the results of S5 say anything about TSM's possible s6 results? DL just played the season of his life, Top Lane is self sustaining, jungler is easily more active than before, and now shotcalling support.
It would take a colossal fuck up on TSM's part, or the new bought slots are even more crazy stacked.
Doesn't matter, still gonna get wrecked by Korean teams in Worlds.
I think SKT and Koo only teams that are intact?
SKT lost Marin, Easyhoon, and Tom
You mean, lost Marin. Let's be honest here, Ezhoon and Tom weren't exactly SKT strengths.
On December 02 2015 11:32 Coldbolt wrote: Although it looks like Quas is not possible to be used now, if somehoe TSM was to get him, we'd have one hell of a strong tsm.
Hauntzer is a better fit, Quas struggled this year when not given a fair amount of resources and jungle attention, while also being a fairly poor engager. He'll never get carry-type resources on this team.
Quas was far and away the best player on TL, pretty much my vote for number one top. I wouldn't want him on TSM though; Hauntzer will fill the supporting role just as well as Quas could. You get Quas to carry.
On December 02 2015 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote: My application for Riot storywriter:
SKT destroys groups but falls 3-2 to a seemingly struggling VG. VG has struggled because EZhoon hurt his wrist early on after crashing his new lambo and he's been alternating games with a D2 player which is all VG could afford. However, EZhoon shows up for semis-- his team loses the first 2 games, then he out-Hai's Hai by going even games 3 and 4 then destroying Faker so badly that Faker pauses the game to announce his retirement. Ezhoon sub's out to preserve his wrist and the backup midlaner somehow scores a pentakill.
On the other side of the bracket, Yellowstar makes it to worlds again (duh). TSM does well in groups, then manages to eke out wins in brackets in a way that convinces them that NA is just getting lucky. All of a sudden it's the semis against TPA (which has more or less reassembled their S2 roster), which has somehow knocked out OG after a power outage forced a regame. TPA manages to get ahead each game and throw, everyone complains that this side of the bracket is weaker than the other. TSM is now in the finals.
TSM vs. VG in the finals. IDK what to write anymore. Err, boom the world explodes.
If my esports trigger is right, there will be no regame.
Leaving Fnatic after the mind blowing season they had ? That makes no sense.. and joining TSM ???? Jeez I guess they offer him a shit ton of $$$.. It makes me so sad :/
On December 02 2015 21:10 Lylat wrote: Leaving Fnatic after the mind blowing season they had ? That makes no sense.. and joining TSM ???? Jeez I guess they offer him a shit ton of $$$.. It makes me so sad :/
To be fair, he probably only left after Huni+RO did... if they had stayed i bet Yellowstar would have stayed too.
"Oh I'm getting near retirement and sometimes kinda burnt out, was already considering it... now two members of the team I'm leading left and it'll be on me to pick up the pieces, rebuild it and maybe even train it from the ground up again? Yeah, sure I'll do that."
If he doesn't stay in the scene after his retirement, he may not retain the same ability to live elsewhere, travel a lot, see the culture, etc. Fnatic allegedly offered him more than TSM but from YS' departure announcement it seemed more like "I'm not paid enough for this" than "I'm not paid enough."
The only thing that makes sense to me for yellow to leave fnatic and join NA LCS is TSM gave him an offer he cannot refuse. I haven't been paying any attention over the last month so no idea really.
On December 03 2015 11:02 StarStruck wrote: The only thing that makes sense to me for yellow to leave fnatic and join NA LCS is TSM gave him an offer he cannot refuse. I haven't been paying any attention over the last month so no idea really.
Well, everything that is coming out publicly is that Yellowstar didn't want to go through piecing together a team from the ashes again after Huni/Reignover left.
On December 02 2015 06:50 MuddyJam wrote:<snip> Possible way is to merge LCS maybe? I want to say like american east and west in sports but i don't know how that works. Like people watch both EU and NA but the later seems to be eating the former.
If you're referring to stuff like conferences and divisions in US sports, that's something that arose from the fact that a lot of time was needed to travel all around the country between games. So the workaround was to tilt the schedule such that you play more games against teams closer to you, in general. Naturally, it's going to have its own pros and cons (you force the development of regional rivalries, but the unbalanced schedule leads to strength of schedule debates).
Combining the two LCS... basically travel between Berlin and LA every so often? Either need to rent two places, or do a lot of hotel room renting. Dunno if the EU orgs want to do that.
ahhh didn't know west teams play east teams lol. I was under the wrong assumptions they where separate until playoffs
I would love to see like some kind of cross region play. Like how baseball does it. Have like 1 or 2 weeks a split where 2 regions play each other and have it count as part of the standings.
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