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Airheart
Profile Joined February 2015
United States143 Posts
November 29 2015 08:59 GMT
#1
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It is with a very heavy heart that we announce Diego “Quas” Ruiz's suspension from Team Liquid. This decision was made after an incident occurred this week at the Team Liquid HQ in Los Angeles. We are reviewing all the details surrounding the event before making a final decision. Steve Arhancet, the owner of the team, is personally engaged and working closely with with Diego and his family. While we understand the desire for transparency, we value Diego’s privacy and we will be releasing further information as appropriate.

From Quas:
"To all my fans,

I know this is sad to hear, but this was the better decision moving forward with my life and growing up. I hope that TL finds a suitable replacement and performs as well as I know they can this season. I am very grateful to Team Liquid for giving me the biggest opportunity of my life and for letting me be a part of esports. I wish everyone the best."


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Updates from Quas
In the past 3 days of my life, I have begun to share and open up with others in ways I'd never done before, in ways which I didn't even think were possible. I have begun to empathize with others, feeling their fear, their pain, their doubts, and connecting with them.

With this realization, I want to keep on sharing and opening up with others for the rest of my life, and hopefully I can help others free themselves from the grip of this resentment and rage."

Translation by Zato-1





Quas Retires
The last couple of weeks have been pivotal for my self-development. I started taking responsibility over my depression and frustrations about my personal development thus far in my life. You could call it growing up, whatever it is, it has given me more control of what I want to do moving forward. Unfortunately, this process has not been easy and I’ve done it in nonconstructive, aggressive and inappropriate ways that led to behaviors that resulted in my suspension from Team Liquid.

...

Having just turned 24 I've thought out my options; I’ve decided to retire from professional gaming and in turn pursue other passions in my life; to also get myself out of the comfort zone I’ve become accustomed to. As far as my future – I’m still figuring out the details but for now I'm looking to pursue a medical career.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2015 09:03 GMT
#2
Article is weird, says it isn't final but obviously they wouldn't want to publish something like this unless they were really sure. maybe they have to say that for a legal reason or something but it bothers me as a reader.
Carrilord has arrived.
Airheart
Profile Joined February 2015
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 09:03:58
November 29 2015 09:03 GMT
#3
I don't know if there's a specific person's responsibility I'm usurping by posting this and if I am please feel free to post under an official headline. I didn't see any threads going up and this is kinda a huge deal (especially given the site) that I'd like to discuss.

Honestly for me this is plain shocking. To lose one of the best top laners in the NA region so suddenly is going to really create a mad scramble from any team that doesn't have their roster locked. I'm honestly also really curious who Liquid can get with their import limit reached as Quas really was the standout player on the team and always performed well
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Airheart
Profile Joined February 2015
United States143 Posts
November 29 2015 09:05 GMT
#4
On November 29 2015 18:03 Slusher wrote:
Article is weird, says it isn't final but obviously they wouldn't want to publish something like this unless they were really sure. maybe they have to say that for a legal reason or something but it bothers me as a reader.


Yeah also Quas's comment doesn't match up with a temporary suspension either and makes it sound like he's either retiring or looking at greener pastures.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 29 2015 09:07 GMT
#5
Dunno which good top laner TL can now get...
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Airheart
Profile Joined February 2015
United States143 Posts
November 29 2015 09:11 GMT
#6
On November 29 2015 18:07 739 wrote:
Dunno which good top laner TL can now get...


I dunno either but they better have a plan if they want to be ready for IEM. With this sorta out of left field announcement it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped the tournament and let a team like NRG go in their stead.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2015 09:12 GMT
#7
yea the timing is pretty bad especially with all the purchased teams, I can't imagine even if a top as good as quas with NA residency existed that they would be a free agent still.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 29 2015 09:17 GMT
#8
On November 29 2015 18:11 Airheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:07 739 wrote:
Dunno which good top laner TL can now get...


I dunno either but they better have a plan if they want to be ready for IEM. With this sorta out of left field announcement it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped the tournament and let a team like NRG go in their stead.

At this point I'm pretty sure they won't attend IEM. Steve already mentioned that he's not sure, because of 'safety' reasons.
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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 09:27:22
November 29 2015 09:18 GMT
#9
On November 29 2015 18:12 Slusher wrote:
yea the timing is pretty bad especially with all the purchased teams, I can't imagine even if a top as good as quas with NA residency existed that they would be a free agent still.

None do without development.

From Steve's statement I think he did something illegal that affects his green card status. From Quas himself I'm guessing he is 100% done with TL, possibly with NA LCS altogether. Although it does say it happened at the TL HQ, maybe eloboosting?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 29 2015 09:45 GMT
#10
On November 29 2015 18:18 bbc23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:12 Slusher wrote:
yea the timing is pretty bad especially with all the purchased teams, I can't imagine even if a top as good as quas with NA residency existed that they would be a free agent still.

None do without development.

From Steve's statement I think he did something illegal that affects his green card status. From Quas himself I'm guessing he is 100% done with TL, possibly with NA LCS altogether. Although it does say it happened at the TL HQ, maybe eloboosting?


Don't think you'd suspend a player for ELO boosting - just fine him and keep it in house. Think this will be like the BlurredLimes situation, we'll never get a real answer as to what happens, but it was something 'serious'.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 29 2015 09:48 GMT
#11
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 29 2015 10:07 GMT
#12
--- Nuked ---
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 29 2015 11:24 GMT
#13
Mid life epiphany or high as a kite...

Weird rambling post, though it's hard to know with google translations.
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dDazed
Profile Joined August 2014
192 Posts
November 29 2015 11:55 GMT
#14
Really sudden and not a whole lot of information. Imaginations will probably run wild for a bit. However whatever he decides to do next, I hope he finds happiness.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
November 29 2015 11:59 GMT
#15
From the Facebook post and what you can read between the lines it sounds like he is severely depressed and/or tried to kill himself.

Hope he is alright
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 12:31:09
November 29 2015 12:30 GMT
#16
This statement almost makes CLGs look good.
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EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
November 29 2015 12:53 GMT
#17
This is gonna be devastating for TL. There are a couple of decent NA tops but no one can currently match Quas. I wonder what happened with my Quas, I was one of his big fans dating back to the challenger days, hope he ends up alright and able to compete if that's something he still wants to do.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 13:07:26
November 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#18
2x Liquid`Cris gonna be confusing for the Heroes fans
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 29 2015 13:10 GMT
#19
On November 29 2015 22:06 Inflicted wrote:
2x Liquid`Cris gonna be confusing for the Heroes fans

They should have signed Bunnyfufu too.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 29 2015 13:15 GMT
#20
TL should just move Fenix back to top. Bring back Jin Air Miso's legendary top lane play.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 29 2015 13:16 GMT
#21
On November 29 2015 20:59 OmegaKnetus wrote:
From the Facebook post and what you can read between the lines it sounds like he is severely depressed and/or tried to kill himself.

Hope he is alright

Dont interpret too much into it, especially if you dont speak the language. From what some Spanish speakers have said it does NOT sound like that.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 29 2015 13:35 GMT
#22
TL is definitely a middle tier team in NA. I cant see them finishing top 5 with this roster.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 29 2015 13:38 GMT
#23
On November 29 2015 22:15 Fusilero wrote:
TL should just move Fenix back to top. Bring back Jin Air Miso's legendary top lane play.

Impact vs Miso hype.

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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 29 2015 14:10 GMT
#24
with all of their best in lcs talent tl should still be alright. piglet carry etc
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Coldbolt
Profile Joined April 2015
United Kingdom70 Posts
November 29 2015 15:16 GMT
#25
And they just became a mid runner team. That guy allows for many errors to be had. He saves teams. Any team to have him will only get stronger. He's like, fucking safe. Won't win you a world championship but he's fucking solid.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 16:22:24
November 29 2015 15:20 GMT
#26
On November 29 2015 22:16 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 20:59 OmegaKnetus wrote:
From the Facebook post and what you can read between the lines it sounds like he is severely depressed and/or tried to kill himself.

Hope he is alright

Dont interpret too much into it, especially if you dont speak the language. From what some Spanish speakers have said it does NOT sound like that.


What I gather from his fb post is that he has had a recent experience that has made him rethink his life altogether. At first he used Chavez as an analogy of one's potential used in a wrong way to a degree, he doesn't feel this is how you should interact with fellow humans, he talks about how he stirs people's anger to manipulate them in a smart but wrong way.

He also tells that he has recently started to understand his own feelings in a different way as before, instead of building walls with other people, disconnecting from them and managing his own anger and frustrations internally(as in his own self), which caused him a lot of burden and maybe even depression, he has just learned that another way is possible.

The last part I think should be the most interesting, free translation, bear with me as english is not my first language and he writes in a quite strange way
En los ultimos 3 dias de mi vida, he compartido y me he relacionado con gente de maneras que no habia hecho, ni habia creido POSIBLE, puedo SENTIR lo que la gente intenta expresarme, ira, miedo, dolor, dudas, puedo confrontar algo que no me suena correcto, y haciendo esto, forjo una relacion indescriptible, por que puedo escuchar el mensaje debajo de la mascara, puedo detectar esa emocion.

Los seres humanos tenemos cosas que queremos esconder de nosotros, sentimos verguenza acerca de cosas especificas de nuestras vidas, nos sentimos controlados por ciertas personas, y bajo control de otras personas, razionalisamos los sentimientos que otros expresan hacia nosotros, y viceversa, pasare el resto de mi vida intentando conectarme con los demas y sentir estas emociones con ellos, y espero ayudar a curar su dolor, y sanar a la gente del dolor que me fue muy presente y me ha deprimido de estas emociones HUMANAS toda mi vida.


The last 3 days of my life, I've shared and I have interacted with people in ways I hadn't done previously, or even thought them POSSIBLE, I can FEEL what people wants to express to me, anger, fear, pain, doubt, I can confront something when it doesn't seem right(fair), and doing that, I forge an undescriptible bond, because I can hear the message under the mask, can feel that emotion.

Human beings have things we want to hide from ourselves, we feel ashamed about specific stuff in our lives, we feel controlled(manipulated) by certain people, and under their control, we rationalize feelings that other people express to us, and the other way around, I'll spend the rest of my life trying to connect with other people and feel these feelings with them, and I hope I can relieve their pain, and heal them from that pain that was so present to me and has depressed me of these HUMAN feelings for all my life.

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riporter
Profile Joined October 2015
United States5 Posts
November 29 2015 16:29 GMT
#27
i want what quas is smoking
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 29 2015 16:32 GMT
#28
On November 30 2015 01:29 riporter wrote:
i want what quas is smoking

He might have been smoking something or whatever but to be fair the shit that is going on in his country with the chavistas is pretty extreme. It is hard to relate to this with our first world problems.
Off-season = best season
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
November 29 2015 19:03 GMT
#29
mabye he joined some kind of rebell organisation and TL has to pull the trigger to save their reputation.
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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 29 2015 20:07 GMT
#30
I'm seeing a lot of people using the fb post as the reasoning behind him leaving. The issue I have with that is then why didn't Quas leave of his own accord? He was suspended for "an incident" that happened at TL so if it was because of the post he must have lost all motivation to play/scrim which would have been a solid means to suspend him.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-29 20:19:00
November 29 2015 20:17 GMT
#31
On November 30 2015 05:07 bbc23 wrote:
I'm seeing a lot of people using the fb post as the reasoning behind him leaving. The issue I have with that is then why didn't Quas leave of his own accord? He was suspended for "an incident" that happened at TL so if it was because of the post he must have lost all motivation to play/scrim which would have been a solid means to suspend him.

I think the assumption is that the "incident" also caused hiim to write rather strange stuff on fb. And/or that the fb post alerted TL of the incident.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 29 2015 20:28 GMT
#32
Our only hope is uf doublelift knows
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 30 2015 00:06 GMT
#33
I am spanish, and I must say, I dont know what the heck he is talking about in that long post. Lost of words to say nothing, talking about feelings as if he had joined a sect, was high, or god knows what.
redemption
Profile Joined February 2006
United States112 Posts
November 30 2015 02:05 GMT
#34
Obviously this is assuming a lot about someone I don't know, but that fb post is kind of how people having a manic episode speak. Flight of ideas, racing thoughts, grandiosity, etc...
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
November 30 2015 05:23 GMT
#35
I just read somewhere on the internet that he punched piglet but I guess everything is a theory until we maybe get more information.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 30 2015 12:53 GMT
#36
On November 30 2015 11:05 redemption wrote:
Obviously this is assuming a lot about someone I don't know, but that fb post is kind of how people having a manic episode speak. Flight of ideas, racing thoughts, grandiosity, etc...

Yeah. I have to agree. If it's the case I hope someone can help him get in treatment.
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Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
November 30 2015 21:26 GMT
#37
Hmm, admittedly I'm behind on my international news, but yea, I'm thinking something induced by Venezuelan politics. Elections were yesterday and a member of the opposition party was killed last Wednesday.
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
December 02 2015 03:37 GMT
#38
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
December 02 2015 12:35 GMT
#39
On December 02 2015 12:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.

You are not alone, no one knows what the heck that huge wall of text is about.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 22:15:41
December 02 2015 21:45 GMT
#40
On December 02 2015 12:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.

Guess I'll have to make myself useful. Rather than a literal translation, I'll translate what I think he's trying to say and cut down on the rambling, because there's a lot of it. Here goes:

"I want to write to my Venezuelan fans, my countrymen, about the epiphany I have had with my life in the past few days.

I've lived most of my life disconnected emotionally from others: Unsure of myself, unhappy, resentful, thinking that there was something wrong with me somehow.

I grew up in a Venezuela with Hugo Chavez in power. The country was bitterly polarised between his Chavistas and the opposition. Hugo Chavez was a genius as a political leader: his ability to communicate with his supporters was unmatched, speaking directly to their resentment and rage, resonating with them through these feelings and channeling them for his own purposes. With Chavez, facts were often trumped by his rhetoric- it's not about what he said, but HOW he said it that made him so relatable to so many.

Chavez amassed immense power in Venezuela, and he abused the Venezuelan people with it. I felt and expressed much of that same rage that Chavez instilled in so many, but only recently have I begun realizing this, and that compassion with others is so much more beautiful than anger.

As I grew up, when I was bothered by what people did or said, I bottled up my frustration, my rage. Short-term rage grew into long-term resentment, and I became cynical, pessimistic, negative. I would sometimes flaunt my intellectual superiority over others, laugh at them, feel no compassion for them as human beings. This dehumanization of others... this is the stuff that war, suicide and depression are made of.

In the past 3 days of my life, I have begun to share and open up with others in ways I'd never done before, in ways which I didn't even think were possible. I have begun to empathize with others, feeling their fear, their pain, their doubts, and connecting with them.

With this realization, I want to keep on sharing and opening up with others for the rest of my life, and hopefully I can help others free themselves from the grip of this resentment and rage."

--

Living in South America, I know all too well what he's talking about. People, especially uneducated people, are more easily controlled by speaking to their feelings than by convincing them with ideas, and populists, usually left-wing ones around here, exploit that by spreading rage and resentment towards "the enemy", whoever that may be. That's what Quas had been taught, and he's just realized what a terrible way to live that is.

If you want me to do any other translations from spanish, just PM me.
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F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
December 03 2015 04:48 GMT
#41
On December 02 2015 21:35 Usagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 12:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.

You are not alone, no one knows what the heck that huge wall of text is about.

It's a lot of words that say almost nothing IMO.

But i think Zato got it - he is supah smart!!
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 03 2015 04:57 GMT
#42
On December 03 2015 06:45 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 12:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.

Guess I'll have to make myself useful. Rather than a literal translation, I'll translate what I think he's trying to say and cut down on the rambling, because there's a lot of it. Here goes:

"I want to write to my Venezuelan fans, my countrymen, about the epiphany I have had with my life in the past few days.

I've lived most of my life disconnected emotionally from others: Unsure of myself, unhappy, resentful, thinking that there was something wrong with me somehow.

I grew up in a Venezuela with Hugo Chavez in power. The country was bitterly polarised between his Chavistas and the opposition. Hugo Chavez was a genius as a political leader: his ability to communicate with his supporters was unmatched, speaking directly to their resentment and rage, resonating with them through these feelings and channeling them for his own purposes. With Chavez, facts were often trumped by his rhetoric- it's not about what he said, but HOW he said it that made him so relatable to so many.

Chavez amassed immense power in Venezuela, and he abused the Venezuelan people with it. I felt and expressed much of that same rage that Chavez instilled in so many, but only recently have I begun realizing this, and that compassion with others is so much more beautiful than anger.

As I grew up, when I was bothered by what people did or said, I bottled up my frustration, my rage. Short-term rage grew into long-term resentment, and I became cynical, pessimistic, negative. I would sometimes flaunt my intellectual superiority over others, laugh at them, feel no compassion for them as human beings. This dehumanization of others... this is the stuff that war, suicide and depression are made of.

In the past 3 days of my life, I have begun to share and open up with others in ways I'd never done before, in ways which I didn't even think were possible. I have begun to empathize with others, feeling their fear, their pain, their doubts, and connecting with them.

With this realization, I want to keep on sharing and opening up with others for the rest of my life, and hopefully I can help others free themselves from the grip of this resentment and rage."

--

Living in South America, I know all too well what he's talking about. People, especially uneducated people, are more easily controlled by speaking to their feelings than by convincing them with ideas, and populists, usually left-wing ones around here, exploit that by spreading rage and resentment towards "the enemy", whoever that may be. That's what Quas had been taught, and he's just realized what a terrible way to live that is.

If you want me to do any other translations from spanish, just PM me.

Thanks. Does actually not sound too unreasonable and surely not suicidal.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
December 03 2015 09:32 GMT
#43
On December 03 2015 13:48 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 21:35 Usagi wrote:
On December 02 2015 12:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.

Mexican fellow here and TBH i didn't really get what he was talking about, my guess would be that he has been separated from feeling emotions towards people all his life or.....jesus crap really didn't get a shit ma bad.

You are not alone, no one knows what the heck that huge wall of text is about.

It's a lot of words that say almost nothing IMO.

But i think Zato got it - he is supah smart!!

Certainly takes a bit of knowledge of how spanish is spoken in the region.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
December 03 2015 18:57 GMT
#44
On November 29 2015 22:10 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 22:06 Inflicted wrote:
2x Liquid`Cris gonna be confusing for the Heroes fans

They should have signed Bunnyfufu too.


Don't think Bunny is gonna sign with them over other orgs after they replaced him with xpecial after a good split.
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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
December 03 2015 19:13 GMT
#45
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snvp0q
Quas retires
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 03 2015 19:16 GMT
#46
On December 04 2015 04:13 bbc23 wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snvp0q
Quas retires

Jesus, what did Quas do O.o??? dontmashme was still in the scene despite choking out a teammate.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 19:26:05
December 03 2015 19:17 GMT
#47
On December 04 2015 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 04:13 bbc23 wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snvp0q
Quas retires

Jesus, what did Quas do O.o??? dontmashme was still in the scene despite choking out a teammate.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/TSMReginaId/status/672492684318105600


It's a joke account but I mean it seems possible something like this happened, I saw a lot of rumours about it. In any case it was probably something serious, so I doubt we'll ever find out.
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bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
December 03 2015 19:21 GMT
#48
I mean, he definitely implied anger issues/some sort of lashing out was the cause of his suspension. Really don't think it had anything to do with weed based on what Quas said.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 03 2015 19:27 GMT
#49
On December 04 2015 04:13 bbc23 wrote:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snvp0q
Quas retires

First step on Quas' way to becoming president of Venezuela.

But seriously its a loss for the NA scene.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 03 2015 19:30 GMT
#50
best of luck to quas.
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
December 03 2015 20:55 GMT
#51
I feel so sad. I was hoping he would get a chance to turn around from a lackluster summer split. I hope he finds peace in what ever he chooses going forward.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 03 2015 23:35 GMT
#52
best of luck to him

but "suspended for depression" lol, the PR
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
December 04 2015 03:49 GMT
#53
On December 04 2015 08:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
best of luck to him

but "suspended for depression" lol, the PR


Well it was probably from actions he performed while at the HQ that he is only now able to link to his state of depression.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
December 04 2015 13:40 GMT
#54
Is Liquid`Huni still possible?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 04 2015 13:43 GMT
#55
On December 04 2015 22:40 nimdil wrote:
Is Liquid`Huni still possible?

No, and no because of foreign player limitations anyway.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
December 04 2015 14:19 GMT
#56
On December 04 2015 22:43 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 22:40 nimdil wrote:
Is Liquid`Huni still possible?

No, and no because of foreign player limitations anyway.

Shouldn't Piglet and Fenix residency be reset to NA now? How does residency exactly work?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 04 2015 14:30 GMT
#57
On December 04 2015 23:19 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 22:43 Ansibled wrote:
On December 04 2015 22:40 nimdil wrote:
Is Liquid`Huni still possible?

No, and no because of foreign player limitations anyway.

Shouldn't Piglet and Fenix residency be reset to NA now? How does residency exactly work?

They have to have played in NA for 2 out of their last 3 years in competition.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
December 04 2015 17:14 GMT
#58
If there's anything that should probably be hidden in PR, it's mental health issues about a player retiring anyway. Doesn't matter what he did.

Kind of puts TL in a pretty bad place by my judgment; the whole team is ending up pretty unfortunate...
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 04 2015 17:27 GMT
#59
On December 05 2015 02:14 Caiada wrote:
If there's anything that should probably be hidden in PR, it's mental health issues about a player retiring anyway. Doesn't matter what he did.

Kind of puts TL in a pretty bad place by my judgment; the whole team is ending up pretty unfortunate...

Hm. It's still a bit early since we don't really know what other roster changes, if any, will take place at the TL house... but from what we do know, the outlook for TL does look bleak.
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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
December 05 2015 06:19 GMT
#60
next season could become a bloody fight for teams like TL. We still dont know how good all these new teams will be but the water is boiling more then last season that is for sure.
Science>Mechanics
geechua
Profile Joined April 2015
Philippines5 Posts
December 21 2015 18:51 GMT
#61
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.



This is the translated one (I forgot the name of the translator)
I want to write to my fans venezuelans, my countrymen, my comrades, my brothers, the indescribable the realization that I've ever had in my life in my last days. I've lived most of my life, disconnected from the other people, thinking that there was something wrong about my, depressed, with resentment. The Venezuelans are beautiful people I've noticed, they are human beings who can feel so many feelings. I grew up when Hugo Chavez ruled, there was a breakthrough in the country, Chavez and opposition, still the same system is in Venezuela in any way possible, and what I realized is that come from feelings, emotions completely different. And hatred between one and another, with your brothers venezuelans, for me, it was because of how people acted Chavez, were unreasonable, controllers, aggressive, full of anger. In my opinion, Hugo Chavez was a human being extremely intelligent, and I don't mean about what I would have studied, nor the events that I knew, he was a human being who was connected with their emotions of anger, in a way, that could transmit Feelings to the people who follow him, he knew how to turn the anger of the people that they had on the inside, most of them poor, both of which are people constantly judged, and made to feel in some way by their economic situations. Anyway, he learned how to control the amount of people, through this, no matter the facts, anything to say, of course some neither they needed to be certain, it was irrelevant to the words he said, was the sensations, the manner in which The expressed, which formed to their base of supporters. The control people, and I didn't have nothing to fear, because I didn't really have anything that was bothering him, not personalizaba feelings of hatred that people gave him, nor the people that called him stupid, not a dump, didn't care , for which the power that I felt was incredible and he learned to control the people who left with this feeling, this that exceeded in his life, that I leave to justify, or reason, they only let you feel and connect with the rest of the People. He was a leader among men incredible, for his ability to connect with that anger in a way that would move to his followers, of course not only with this, also with his charisma and his other emotions, they were so solid, so inmobibles, that didn't matter of He was talking about, people who felt a certain way towards the, they pudian connect with their emotions, they are human feelings. The volume of this power and abuse of the people, and with this I'm not okay, compassion, with others is much more beautiful to me, and I can see it that way, even if I finish by expressing anger through my feelings, I've only begun To feel this lately. I've been a human being smart enough to grow, others saw a potential in me, but I also knew that things affect me, learned how to make me feel in certain ways, and when I spoke with a lot of emotions, frequently desconexion honors, and the interiorizaba , such as anger, but without express it, only I stayed with the resentment inside of me, and act out with different behaviors, acting more important, more intelligent than them, or simply logging off of them, human beings are so, we internalize these feelings that We receive from others, in order to justify our own doubts, we judge others, we make fun of others, we don't have compassion for others as human beings, and that comes disconnection, war, suicides, lives filled with depression. IN THE LAST 3 days of my life, I've shared, and I've connected with people in ways that I hadn't done, nor had believed possible, I can feel what people try to express myself, anger, fear, pain, doubts, I can compare Something that doesn't sound right to me, and by doing this, I'm forging a relationship indescribable, for which I can listen to the message below the mask, I can spot that emotion. Human beings have things that we want to hide from us, we feel shame about specific things in our lives, we are controlled by certain people, and under the control of other people, razionalisamos the feelings that other express toward us, and vice versa, I'm gonna spend the rest Of my life trying to connect with others and feel these emotions with them, and I hope to help heal your pain, and to heal the people from the pain that I was very present, and I was depressed from these human emotions all my life.

It made my head hurt. But based on what he wrote he's obviously suffering from severe depression.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 22 2015 02:39 GMT
#62
On December 22 2015 03:51 geechua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.



This is the translated one (I forgot the name of the translator)
+ Show Spoiler +
I want to write to my fans venezuelans, my countrymen, my comrades, my brothers, the indescribable the realization that I've ever had in my life in my last days. I've lived most of my life, disconnected from the other people, thinking that there was something wrong about my, depressed, with resentment. The Venezuelans are beautiful people I've noticed, they are human beings who can feel so many feelings. I grew up when Hugo Chavez ruled, there was a breakthrough in the country, Chavez and opposition, still the same system is in Venezuela in any way possible, and what I realized is that come from feelings, emotions completely different. And hatred between one and another, with your brothers venezuelans, for me, it was because of how people acted Chavez, were unreasonable, controllers, aggressive, full of anger. In my opinion, Hugo Chavez was a human being extremely intelligent, and I don't mean about what I would have studied, nor the events that I knew, he was a human being who was connected with their emotions of anger, in a way, that could transmit Feelings to the people who follow him, he knew how to turn the anger of the people that they had on the inside, most of them poor, both of which are people constantly judged, and made to feel in some way by their economic situations. Anyway, he learned how to control the amount of people, through this, no matter the facts, anything to say, of course some neither they needed to be certain, it was irrelevant to the words he said, was the sensations, the manner in which The expressed, which formed to their base of supporters. The control people, and I didn't have nothing to fear, because I didn't really have anything that was bothering him, not personalizaba feelings of hatred that people gave him, nor the people that called him stupid, not a dump, didn't care , for which the power that I felt was incredible and he learned to control the people who left with this feeling, this that exceeded in his life, that I leave to justify, or reason, they only let you feel and connect with the rest of the People. He was a leader among men incredible, for his ability to connect with that anger in a way that would move to his followers, of course not only with this, also with his charisma and his other emotions, they were so solid, so inmobibles, that didn't matter of He was talking about, people who felt a certain way towards the, they pudian connect with their emotions, they are human feelings. The volume of this power and abuse of the people, and with this I'm not okay, compassion, with others is much more beautiful to me, and I can see it that way, even if I finish by expressing anger through my feelings, I've only begun To feel this lately. I've been a human being smart enough to grow, others saw a potential in me, but I also knew that things affect me, learned how to make me feel in certain ways, and when I spoke with a lot of emotions, frequently desconexion honors, and the interiorizaba , such as anger, but without express it, only I stayed with the resentment inside of me, and act out with different behaviors, acting more important, more intelligent than them, or simply logging off of them, human beings are so, we internalize these feelings that We receive from others, in order to justify our own doubts, we judge others, we make fun of others, we don't have compassion for others as human beings, and that comes disconnection, war, suicides, lives filled with depression. IN THE LAST 3 days of my life, I've shared, and I've connected with people in ways that I hadn't done, nor had believed possible, I can feel what people try to express myself, anger, fear, pain, doubts, I can compare Something that doesn't sound right to me, and by doing this, I'm forging a relationship indescribable, for which I can listen to the message below the mask, I can spot that emotion. Human beings have things that we want to hide from us, we feel shame about specific things in our lives, we are controlled by certain people, and under the control of other people, razionalisamos the feelings that other express toward us, and vice versa, I'm gonna spend the rest Of my life trying to connect with others and feel these emotions with them, and I hope to help heal your pain, and to heal the people from the pain that I was very present, and I was depressed from these human emotions all my life.


It made my head hurt. But based on what he wrote he's obviously suffering from severe depression.

I wrote a better translation here:
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/499325-quas-retires?page=2#40
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
December 22 2015 05:34 GMT
#63
On December 22 2015 03:51 geechua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2015 18:48 739 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/CrsQuas/posts/529237557235527

Anyone with Spanish and can translate? Maybe this is related.



This is the translated one (I forgot the name of the translator)
+ Show Spoiler +
I want to write to my fans venezuelans, my countrymen, my comrades, my brothers, the indescribable the realization that I've ever had in my life in my last days. I've lived most of my life, disconnected from the other people, thinking that there was something wrong about my, depressed, with resentment. The Venezuelans are beautiful people I've noticed, they are human beings who can feel so many feelings. I grew up when Hugo Chavez ruled, there was a breakthrough in the country, Chavez and opposition, still the same system is in Venezuela in any way possible, and what I realized is that come from feelings, emotions completely different. And hatred between one and another, with your brothers venezuelans, for me, it was because of how people acted Chavez, were unreasonable, controllers, aggressive, full of anger. In my opinion, Hugo Chavez was a human being extremely intelligent, and I don't mean about what I would have studied, nor the events that I knew, he was a human being who was connected with their emotions of anger, in a way, that could transmit Feelings to the people who follow him, he knew how to turn the anger of the people that they had on the inside, most of them poor, both of which are people constantly judged, and made to feel in some way by their economic situations. Anyway, he learned how to control the amount of people, through this, no matter the facts, anything to say, of course some neither they needed to be certain, it was irrelevant to the words he said, was the sensations, the manner in which The expressed, which formed to their base of supporters. The control people, and I didn't have nothing to fear, because I didn't really have anything that was bothering him, not personalizaba feelings of hatred that people gave him, nor the people that called him stupid, not a dump, didn't care , for which the power that I felt was incredible and he learned to control the people who left with this feeling, this that exceeded in his life, that I leave to justify, or reason, they only let you feel and connect with the rest of the People. He was a leader among men incredible, for his ability to connect with that anger in a way that would move to his followers, of course not only with this, also with his charisma and his other emotions, they were so solid, so inmobibles, that didn't matter of He was talking about, people who felt a certain way towards the, they pudian connect with their emotions, they are human feelings. The volume of this power and abuse of the people, and with this I'm not okay, compassion, with others is much more beautiful to me, and I can see it that way, even if I finish by expressing anger through my feelings, I've only begun To feel this lately. I've been a human being smart enough to grow, others saw a potential in me, but I also knew that things affect me, learned how to make me feel in certain ways, and when I spoke with a lot of emotions, frequently desconexion honors, and the interiorizaba , such as anger, but without express it, only I stayed with the resentment inside of me, and act out with different behaviors, acting more important, more intelligent than them, or simply logging off of them, human beings are so, we internalize these feelings that We receive from others, in order to justify our own doubts, we judge others, we make fun of others, we don't have compassion for others as human beings, and that comes disconnection, war, suicides, lives filled with depression. IN THE LAST 3 days of my life, I've shared, and I've connected with people in ways that I hadn't done, nor had believed possible, I can feel what people try to express myself, anger, fear, pain, doubts, I can compare Something that doesn't sound right to me, and by doing this, I'm forging a relationship indescribable, for which I can listen to the message below the mask, I can spot that emotion. Human beings have things that we want to hide from us, we feel shame about specific things in our lives, we are controlled by certain people, and under the control of other people, razionalisamos the feelings that other express toward us, and vice versa, I'm gonna spend the rest Of my life trying to connect with others and feel these emotions with them, and I hope to help heal your pain, and to heal the people from the pain that I was very present, and I was depressed from these human emotions all my life.


It made my head hurt. But based on what he wrote he's obviously suffering from severe depression.

To me it seems much more like a hypomania to be honest, but that doesn't exclude depressions earlier. It's too easy for us to be armchair psychiatrists when all we know is a facebook post tho.
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