EPTLucky that there's lots of western teams . NA and EU can practice together to defeat Asians.
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Lucky that there's lots of western teams . NA and EU can practice together to defeat Asians. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 11 2015 09:12 Mensol wrote: I just read on reddit that Korean teams are charging around 5.000$ Dollars for scrims, thats insane. Lucky that there's lots of western teams . NA and EU can practice together to defeat Asians. It's not clear if it's just one game, a set of 5, or X games. Either way, I am not too surprised. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I somehow doubt that the KR teams would charge anyone who they consider worth scrimming that obscene amount. There is also now a reddit thread that has KR coach comments where they said they would never do that kind of thing, and that it might have been a scammer. Well, if you're not at worlds, you probably aren't keeping the team together anyways, so its not really much use to Jin Air or CJ to scrim, but some beer money makes it worthwhile. Scrimming is always a good idea, even if they don't keep the full team it means they can test players out, try out strategies, and gain synergy between whoever they do keep. I can see CJ and Jin Air getting changes, but I don't think it'll be extreme changes, maybe one or two out. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
Supposedly it's bullshit. Though I am curious of the translation listing Easyhoon at KT's head coach. lol e. His name is Lee JiHoon. I could Lee Jily see the mistake Suz is denying it in the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3kitnm/korean_coaches_stating_asking_money_for_scrim_is/cuxs4wa | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
honestly the thread should be closed at this point, it's based on a baseless accusation that any and all actual detective work has concluded is false. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 11 2015 20:50 DarkCore wrote: Don't forget that it was BR player who stated that. I could understand that most KR teams, especially those going to worlds, wouldn't see the point in scrimming with a team that has no chance of making it far. It's essentially a waste of time. I somehow doubt that the KR teams would charge anyone who they consider worth scrimming that obscene amount. There is also now a reddit thread that has KR coach comments where they said they would never do that kind of thing, and that it might have been a scammer. Scrimming is always a good idea, even if they don't keep the full team it means they can test players out, try out strategies, and gain synergy between whoever they do keep. I can see CJ and Jin Air getting changes, but I don't think it'll be extreme changes, maybe one or two out. CJ should keep Coco and maybe the botlane (with subs for both), and jin air can go many ways, but they need to change the dynamic of the team. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
Went on for 58 minutes with almost 150 kills going back and forth. It was the most real and fun game I've played in a long, long time. Laning phase was unspectacular: vlad got dumpstered by Yorick and lost his tower, J4 camped mid lane and kept Zed and Heimer even. Bot lane won a fight and took the tower, but didn't secure the kills and ended up getting killed by a Magical Journeyed Volibear in the back. We secured an early dragon, but paid for it with a 1 for 4. From that point, it was pretty much just back to back posturing/warding followed by teamfights. We had a couple of teamfight losses where a spectacular bard ult set up Voli and Yorick to sit on top of the team and destroy us, then won a few where I managed to Solar Flare Jinx and Yorick then peel Voli off cait while our carries did work to their backline. We ended up taking an inhib after a fight, but overstayed for a brush gank in the jungle and lost baron. They spent the entire baron keeping us off 5th dragon, winning a fight, but being forced to defend. They got our mid inhib turret, but not the actual inhibitor. We ended up losing yet another fight with them being able to double inhib us, but they overstayed to do it and we punished by acing them and re-taking the top inhib. The last fight came down to me catching Volibear warding dragon, us taking the 5th dragon, baron, then shoving in top (inhib had respawned again). We then aced them in their base because Jinx was in front of her frontline and I Solar Flared her and E'd in. I died, but Jinx did too and Yorick ult was either down or just not used on her, so we took the rest of the fight fairly easily. It was goddamned close and back and forth, with each team losing several teamfights in a row before winning one. I had such a blast playing it, couldn't help but post here. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
team fights on KR ladder is just insane. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On September 12 2015 04:47 Mensol wrote: I just watched Rush and Incarnati0n duoing against imp and godv. team fights on KR ladder is just insane. when you get up to challenger in KR the soloq games look like disorganized OGN games lol | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On September 13 2015 00:31 Slusher wrote: Sometimes I think I'm not terrible at this game, then I watch Saint go legendary in a d1 game as jungle Teemo. scarra goes jungle tf in master/challenger games | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
Kaceytron. She intentionally feeds and throws games under the guise of being bad. Videos on youtube show her playing WoW, talking to a friend who asked her why she pretends to be so stupid on stream. She basically said she's putting on a show. Not that her actions even need proof, they speak for themselves. She's been intentionally losing games and feeding on stream for, what, two years? The message is: as long as you pretend you're stupid and bad no one can prove you're doing it on purpose. My opinion? I'd much rather people get called out for bad plays they make and feel bad about it than people thinking it's ok to play like shit on purpose while putting on a facade that you're stupid or bad at the game. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
edit: It was a reddit comment in reply to his tweet whining about her, the comment said she was subhuman/satanist. idk what's going on there | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On September 13 2015 11:22 Sonnington wrote: So about the Dunkey being banned thing. Maybe he deserved it. I don't know for sure. You know who definitely deserves it though? Kaceytron. She intentionally feeds and throws games under the guise of being bad. Videos on youtube show her playing WoW, talking to a friend who asked her why she pretends to be so stupid on stream. She basically said she's putting on a show. Not that her actions even need proof, they speak for themselves. She's been intentionally losing games and feeding on stream for, what, two years? The message is: as long as you pretend you're stupid and bad no one can prove you're doing it on purpose. My opinion? I'd much rather people get called out for bad plays they make and feel bad about it than people thinking it's ok to play like shit on purpose while putting on a facade that you're stupid or bad at the game. I hate when things like Dunkey gets banned become this big thing, because there's a lovely group of people that make stupid arguements to change the topic. Dunkey's ban has nothing to do with Kaceytron. Who else "deserves it" or "deserves it more" doesn't fucking matter. The only thing that matters is that Dunkey was being a cunt, often, got char restricted, often, and continued to be a cunt until he got a 2 week ban. Then he makes a sob story video where he Dunning Kreuger's his own fucked mental state after Riot gives him a short ban that he easily deserves and then quits. I'm a big fan of his, been watching his videos as long as I've played this game, maybe even longer, but he's behaving like a child when it comes to this. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On September 13 2015 11:51 Gahlo wrote: I hate when things like Dunkey gets banned become this big thing, because there's a lovely group of people that make stupid arguements to change the topic. Dunkey's ban has nothing to do with Kaceytron. Who else "deserves it" or "deserves it more" doesn't fucking matter. The only thing that matters is that Dunkey was being a cunt, often, got char restricted, often, and continued to be a cunt until he got a 2 week ban. Then he makes a sob story video where he Dunning Kreuger's his own fucked mental state after Riot gives him a short ban that he easily deserves and then quits. I'm a big fan of his, been watching his videos as long as I've played this game, maybe even longer, but he's behaving like a child when it comes to this. Well, I guess you're going to have to deal with people taking the opportunity to bring up tangential topics. Honestly? I don't even know the Dunkey story. I don't really care. I read a reddit post that had 7k upvotes, hit r/all, and a few comments about how he's a dick to people. I've never been a big fan of his work. Like I said, he may deserve it. He probably does and it's clever of him to exploit the situation. But far more despicable is a person that purposefully ruins games and gets away with it because they're putting on a facade of stupidity. What kind of message is that sending kids and teens? If you offend people because you're upset with others incompetence: you'll be punished. If you feign incompetence while making other people's lives harder: you'll be coddled and accepted. That's truly a disgusting message Riot is sending, but I think it's actually emblematic of today's culture and values. | ||
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Llama
United Kingdom69 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On September 13 2015 13:41 Llama wrote: Doesn't Hanlon's razor apply here? The vast majority of people who are bad in League aren't pretending to be bad for the sake of a stream (or for any reason really), they're just... actually... bad. What are you getting at? Are you trying to say Kaceytron isn't acting? | ||
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Llama
United Kingdom69 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On September 13 2015 13:50 Llama wrote: Just that it's not really a relevant thing because there isn't some epidemic of people who are pretending to be not good at league of legends that needs to be addressed -- whereas chat toxicity bans like the one dunkey got hit by are one of their stated priorities I see. That's not the point I was making. I was saying it was disgusting in a more grandiose sense. But lets stay within the confines of the game then. Out of curiosity, do you feel like it's ok to let one of the top streamers intentionally feed and ruin games? And how do you know people don't intentionally play badly and feign stupidity to ruin games? I think that happens quite often. The biggest difference is, you can't always discern the difference between someone who is bad and someone faking it. In the case of Kaceytron, you absolutely can. Or are you just saying they should let her ruin games for the last 2 years and continue to do so because they never said it's their mission to stop intentional feeders? | ||
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