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Llama
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom69 Posts
September 13 2015 05:09 GMT
#401
I don't think people in general will "feign stupidity" to ruin games because nobody actually likes to look stupid. Or to lose games by playing worse than they usually would. In my experience people who try to ruin games do so in such a way that is distinguishable from simple bad play.

I suspect the reason Kaceytron isn't banned yet (and she should be) is that Riot are just disorganized and don't have a good system in place for dealing with streamers specifically. Maybe they're afraid of making some PR blunder wrt streamers, like when the spectatefaker stream thing blew up on reddit and their stance was met with a very cold reception
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
September 13 2015 05:28 GMT
#402
On September 13 2015 14:09 Llama wrote:
I don't think people in general will "feign stupidity" to ruin games because nobody actually likes to look stupid. Or to lose games by playing worse than they usually would. In my experience people who try to ruin games do so in such a way that is distinguishable from simple bad play.

I suspect the reason Kaceytron isn't banned yet (and she should be) is that Riot are just disorganized and don't have a good system in place for dealing with streamers specifically. Maybe they're afraid of making some PR blunder wrt streamers, like when the spectatefaker stream thing blew up on reddit and their stance was met with a very cold reception

That's a very noble view of the internet community. The truth is there are quite a few trolls out there and it doesn't take long to figure out that pretending you're stupid to ruin games means you won't get in trouble. While intentionally feeding will. I actually had a friend from EUW who would tell me about the shit he'd pull in game. Like specifically baiting low mobility champs into bad positions and running away. In any event, it's difficult to discern what's stupid and what's pretending to be stupid.

In any event, I feel like she's sending a reprehensible message to kids that it's acceptable to pretend to be stupid while setting others behind.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 13 2015 06:48 GMT
#403
On September 13 2015 14:00 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 13:50 Llama wrote:
Just that it's not really a relevant thing because there isn't some epidemic of people who are pretending to be not good at league of legends that needs to be addressed -- whereas chat toxicity bans like the one dunkey got hit by are one of their stated priorities

I see. That's not the point I was making. I was saying it was disgusting in a more grandiose sense. But lets stay within the confines of the game then.

Out of curiosity, do you feel like it's ok to let one of the top streamers intentionally feed and ruin games? And how do you know people don't intentionally play badly and feign stupidity to ruin games? I think that happens quite often. The biggest difference is, you can't always discern the difference between someone who is bad and someone faking it. In the case of Kaceytron, you absolutely can. Or are you just saying they should let her ruin games for the last 2 years and continue to do so because they never said it's their mission to stop intentional feeders?


Im pretty sure if you're matched with kaceytron you're probably so bad yourself it doesn't matter.

The only time I ever watched her stream she was blatantly trying to feed / die and she was getting double kills. Lol. It was like watching someone try to lose to beginner bots.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 13 2015 09:27 GMT
#404
how do i click people behind turret, not the first time i botched dive because turret was on the way and i coudlnt click on them
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 13 2015 11:20 GMT
#405
Move the camera.
If you hold tilda then the game will only target champions and ignore clicks on anything else.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 13 2015 13:00 GMT
#406
On September 13 2015 18:27 kongoline wrote:
how do i click people behind turret, not the first time i botched dive because turret was on the way and i coudlnt click on them

Player only click.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 13 2015 13:36 GMT
#407
at any rate, this game started its decline when it introduced the trinbunal/bans being commonplace. It's around the same time they started to homogenize champions and builds and turned a game into something super serious and stale. Looks like they are finally trying to revert that starting with these juggernaut things and making champs be able to do crazy shit again but its gonna take a while to fix.
I come in for the scraps
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 14:10:24
September 13 2015 14:10 GMT
#408
If bans/chat restrictions being more commonplace make people quit, thank fucking God. Mission accomplished.
XDG Mata
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 13 2015 14:15 GMT
#409
I wish there was something like anti-riot for LL and reddit that would action all self-righteous whiners
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
September 13 2015 15:59 GMT
#410
How would you guys build vlad toplane? I have been going Dshield -->revolver-->completely lost. Wota first? Sorcs or lucidity boots? Liandry, Dcap or Rylai's after?
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 13 2015 16:11 GMT
#411
On September 14 2015 00:59 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How would you guys build vlad toplane? I have been going Dshield -->revolver-->completely lost. Wota first? Sorcs or lucidity boots? Liandry, Dcap or Rylai's after?

Theoretically, Revolver => Guise/Sorc => WotA.

Vlad has really low cds as it is to the point where I don't see much value in Lucidity boots on him.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 13 2015 16:16 GMT
#412
On September 13 2015 23:10 Caiada wrote:
If bans/chat restrictions being more commonplace make people quit, thank fucking God. Mission accomplished.


you're focusing on the wrong part of it. They took the fun part out of a game and they are trying to be more important then they actually are. this is a video game not the UN. every champion does not need to come in with a set role and have only one build path, in fact it makes the game a lot more boring.
I come in for the scraps
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 16:32:52
September 13 2015 16:23 GMT
#413
Lucidity boots are usually a question of 'do I need my utility spells up more often?' On Vlad, the answer is, yeah, sometimes.

Low cooldown champs are also sustained damage champs more often than not and thus benefit a lot from getting 1 or 2 more casts of each spell off per fight.

Think an ideal Vlad build is something like WotA/Rylai's/Liandry's into two of Dcap/Zhonya's/SV/Abyssal/Void.

On September 14 2015 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:10 Caiada wrote:
If bans/chat restrictions being more commonplace make people quit, thank fucking God. Mission accomplished.


you're focusing on the wrong part of it. They took the fun part out of a game and they are trying to be more important then they actually are. this is a video game not the UN. every champion does not need to come in with a set role and have only one build path, in fact it makes the game a lot more boring.


I agreed with that, hence not mentioning it. The tribunal thing was still stupid. Bans are great.
XDG Mata
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 13 2015 16:25 GMT
#414
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 13 2015 23:43 GMT
#415
how the fuck do you deal with azir in soloq this guy is so annoying
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 23:46:48
September 13 2015 23:46 GMT
#416
Pick an early game mid/jungler and crush him.

On that note all strong laning mids got nerfed recently and he's been playing more conservatively since the e nerf and new build gl
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 13 2015 23:47 GMT
#417
Riot has a boner for lategame scaling. See 3 of the juggernauts, Viktor, etc.
RIP Pantheon and Renekton.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2015 01:47 GMT
#418
I actually think CDR boots are better for top lane Vlad.

Scaling CDR blues are cute and all, keep in mind you won't be able to hit 40% CDR until you are level 18. Sometimes you just want power NOW, and CDR boots (subject to certain matchups) are one of your best items to get beside wota.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 02:24:11
September 14 2015 02:19 GMT
#419
Most common build for Renek still doesn't pick up Titanic l0l

Builds are really not that complicated. I don't think there's any more obvious buy in the game than Titanic on Renekton.

Azir? Something that either outpressures him or kills him early. There's a lot of options.
XDG Mata
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 14 2015 02:40 GMT
#420
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