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Reminder the PBE thread has been revived - please take PBE discussion there, thanks! http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/491813-pbe-515-juggernaughts-general-discussion
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
August 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#281
Havent been following the thread at all in the last weeks since its exam time, so its prob been discussed already. But with the discussion about sandbox mode, isnt the skill ceiling already really low in this game and sandbox mode would only diminish the skill differences ?
If every player can just train for hours last hitting under tower like Bjergsen. He would lose that edge.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:16:59
August 06 2015 22:58 GMT
#282
On August 07 2015 07:55 Kenpark wrote:
Havent been following the thread at all in the last weeks since its exam time, so its prob been discussed already. But with the discussion about sandbox mode, isnt the skill ceiling already really low in this game and sandbox mode would only diminish the skill differences ?
If every player can just train for hours last hitting under tower like Bjergsen. He would lose that edge.


I don't think so.

edit:

So the servers are moving to Chicago and they were apparently in Portland for an entirely inexplicable reason. edit: No wonder the East Coast was complaining. As far as i can tell Portland is basically the least accessible place on the coast. You probably go through LA or Seattle to get there
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:16:46
August 06 2015 23:11 GMT
#283
Did not think that would be a double post. Editing prior post
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
August 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#284
On August 07 2015 07:58 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:55 Kenpark wrote:
Havent been following the thread at all in the last weeks since its exam time, so its prob been discussed already. But with the discussion about sandbox mode, isnt the skill ceiling already really low in this game and sandbox mode would only diminish the skill differences ?
If every player can just train for hours last hitting under tower like Bjergsen. He would lose that edge.


I don't think so.


Can you elaborate ? Skill ceiling not high or sandbox mode equalizing the skill level ? Good players wont fail flashes over walls even right now. Good Nidas dont miss jumpes etc.
Sure the general skill would go up, but the differences should diminish ?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 06 2015 23:24 GMT
#285
Skill ceiling is legitimately high(especially for champions like yasuo) and sandbox mode will probably not really equalize skill levels.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
August 06 2015 23:36 GMT
#286
On August 07 2015 08:24 Goumindong wrote:
Skill ceiling is legitimately high(especially for champions like yasuo) and sandbox mode will probably not really equalize skill levels.


Well there ARE differences in like I said last hitting under tower between Bjergsen or XWX and say Shiphtur. With sandbox mode I would argue that Shiphtur will improve more than the former, cause they are already at a near perfect level.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:41:35
August 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#287
On August 07 2015 07:58 Goumindong wrote:
So the servers are moving to Chicago and they were apparently in Portland for an entirely inexplicable reason. edit: No wonder the East Coast was complaining. As far as i can tell Portland is basically the least accessible place on the coast. You probably go through LA or Seattle to get there


If I remember a routing map I saw a long time ago there is no direct major pipe from Portland to the east coast like LA to NY would be. It would have to jump to either LA, Chicago, or Texas/St Louis if I am not mistaken. It was a long long time ago.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 07 2015 00:26 GMT
#288
On August 07 2015 08:36 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:24 Goumindong wrote:
Skill ceiling is legitimately high(especially for champions like yasuo) and sandbox mode will probably not really equalize skill levels.


Well there ARE differences in like I said last hitting under tower between Bjergsen or XWX and say Shiphtur. With sandbox mode I would argue that Shiphtur will improve more than the former, cause they are already at a near perfect level.


They really aren't near perfect at all, everyone misses plenty of CS, but more importantly there is way way more to laning than just CSing under turret. You can get 100% of CS and still be laning incredibly suboptimally.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 07 2015 00:53 GMT
#289
Shiptur's problem isn't csing under tower, its that he is the NA gankedbymom, and cedes too much lane pressure.
Freeeeeeedom
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 07 2015 02:04 GMT
#290
how do you get the capt gp skin? just use gp in any game mode?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 07 2015 02:10 GMT
#291
On August 07 2015 11:04 justiceknight wrote:
how do you get the capt gp skin? just use gp in any game mode?

Any non custom game once.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 07 2015 02:21 GMT
#292
On August 07 2015 01:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:17 Nos- wrote:
Aren't the majority of ranked players in silver/gold? And I'm pretty sure ranked players are in the majority of the total playerbase.

Bronze and Silver make up the largest player % in ranked, not Silver and Gold.

And no, the overwhelming majority of players do not play ranked. Lolsummoners' total for global ranked players is ~10.5 million players, while Riot's most recent report for total playerbase size is 65+ million monthly unique players.

really it seems I am grossly misinformed then.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 07 2015 02:25 GMT
#293
Yeah even if you are like, gold 5, you're in the top 3% of all players or something like that if you count unranked players.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 07 2015 02:36 GMT
#294
On August 07 2015 11:25 Ketara wrote:
Yeah even if you are like, gold 5, you're in the top 3% of all players or something like that if you count unranked players.

I believe it was top 30%.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 07 2015 02:38 GMT
#295
Well since only 15% of players play ranked according to Yangos numbers, that couldn't be possible could it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 07 2015 02:45 GMT
#296
On August 07 2015 11:38 Ketara wrote:
Well since only 15% of players play ranked according to Yangos numbers, that couldn't be possible could it.

It's pointless to count them because that assumes that nobody in normal games is gold+.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 07 2015 02:46 GMT
#297
It's not pointless if you want to illustrate that high ranked players are an incredibly tiny minority of the total population.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 02:58:05
August 07 2015 02:55 GMT
#298
I haven't been very active in LoL lately, but I have an interesting tangent of thought, bare with me here. I just played a game that illustrated why we need voice chat. I was playing MF, pushing top lane and baiting in Gnar. At least, I thought I was. Lee Sin and Blitz were in the intersection of blue buff(we started on red side). They were literally on my screen. So I said, fuck it, I'm going to bait Gnar in and kill him. Only problem was, my team didn't respond to the bait. I had another instance in a previous game where my jungler got pissed because no one would tank baron for him and it became a huge mess because of that.

My point being, voice chat would make this game -so- much easier and fun to play. Which leads me to another thought: replays on op.gg only take up 7-10 kb. Voice chat has to take up several megs of data per game or, conservatively, 1 meg per game. If it's even used/ Dota 2 has both voice chat and replays. How the fuck does having replays take up too much server resource?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 07 2015 02:56 GMT
#299
On August 07 2015 11:46 Ketara wrote:
It's not pointless if you want to illustrate that high ranked players are an incredibly tiny minority of the total population.

It is if you don't know where to put those players in the ranking system. Meteos used to be an unranked only player, but even then he was still ridiculously good compared to the server in general. Granted, somebody being as good as Meteos is an outlier, but when the bar is lowered from potential professional to Gold 5 0LP, there's more than outliers.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 07 2015 03:14 GMT
#300
Meteos is such an outlier that people greatly exaggerate the story. The thorin interview clarified that he did play ranked and was a top %, just not diamond 1, player, and preferred normals because he would queue with 3-5 friends.
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