EPT[Patch 5.15] Fiora Remake General Discussion - Page 11
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2015 10:05 cLutZ wrote: Can't they just make sandbox mode a child that inherits from summoners rift? Then it can't affect it and you have functions that then are only referenced to the child. It's far more complicated than that. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On August 06 2015 09:13 Sufficiency wrote: 1. I get paid for doing it. 2. It builds my experience and my resume. 3. I believe it played a positive role in obtaining my current job. 1. More people get paid to play this game, than people to make stats for it. 2. It would build the experience not only of current players, but those who are trying to break into the scene. 3. Positive is all it would be for people trying to obtain a current job in professional league of legends, not only as a player, but as casters, YouTube streamers, PBE sites like s@20 etc. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
More directly, are you even playing the game anymore? Collision size is important ever since Riot fucked something up last season and apparently increased minions' collision size and/or modified pathing. You bet your ass I'd like to have full info on why sometimes I spend a full 4 seconds pacing back and from 2 minions with an apparently wide space between them, instead of just going through, or directly around if it's too narrow. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2015 10:07 JonGalt wrote: 1. More people get paid to play this game, than people to make stats for it. 2. It would build the experience not only of current players, but those who are trying to break into the scene. 3. Positive is all it would be for people trying to obtain a current job in professional league of legends, not only as a player, but as casters, YouTube streamers, PBE sites like s@20 etc. 1. I am not good enough as a professional streamer because I am not that good and I don't have boobs. 2. ??? 3. It's an interesting comment, but I have already eluded to the fact that my job has an esport component. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Probably, but that is the general idea of what they would do. Surely that is how they built URF and Doombots? Or did they really just CTRL-C>CTRL-V and then manually change values in the second iteration? That seems absurd. ^*alluded not eluded. You are not running from a rabid dog. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2015 10:07 Alaric wrote: Just look at the current Darius rework: introducing a 0.75s delay on his Q is huge, even if you don't take into account the ability's parameters (it has barely over 400 range, and the whole blade mechanic, along with it being made critical in the rework), but Riot wouldn't giive you that info on the tooltips and stuff, you'll need to look at the PBE boards (which always include the "tentative" disclaimer) and later maybe the patch notes, but that's all. Nothing centralised. More directly, are you even playing the game anymore? Collision size is important ever since Riot fucked something up last season and apparently increased minions' collision size and/or modified pathing. You bet your ass I'd like to have full info on why sometimes I spend a full 4 seconds pacing back and from 2 minions with an apparently wide space between them, instead of just going through, or directly around if it's too narrow. You can't prevent minion blocking simply because you know your collision size is 240. Minion blocking is more-or-less a bug. Collision size is very important in Warcraft 3 because collision differences allow you to make certain kinds of surrounds. Knowing your collision in LoL yields you 0 useful information unless you are a human computer. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2015 10:13 cLutZ wrote: Probably, but that is the general idea of what they would do. Surely that is how they built URF and Doombots? Or did they really just CTRL-C>CTRL-V and then manually change values in the second iteration? That seems absurd. ^*alluded not eluded. You are not running from a rabid dog. The difference is that you are making a mod with an UI such that the USER CAN CHANGE GLOBAL CDR, etc. That's vastly different from URF where the parameters are already set and the game works ootb. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Riot didn't say that sandbox mode is too hard to implement sufficiency they said they don't want to.They said replays are too hard to implement so clearly it isn't a pride thing. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 06 2015 08:44 Sufficiency wrote: That's not my point. Imagine there is a rally for McDonald's to give away free Big Macs 365 days a year - because Big Macs are so darned delicious and everyone likes Big Macs. Then McDonald's will just be quiet about it instead of making some BS PR reasons - since the request to give away free Big Macs is so ridiculous that it's not worth making a statement for. Riot making a sandbox is about equally ridiculous. Fundamentally, League of Legends is a game and you play it to have fun - singleplayer sandbox training wheel is NOT FUN. If you think sandbox training is fun, you are almost certainly too addicted to the game and you should re-evaluate your life choices. There is absolutely no reasons whatsoever that Riot should spend the resources to make something that is intrinsically not fun. Fundamentally, sports are games, so the same logic follows (except that no one has to create the sandbox mode). But if someone enjoys kicking a ball between their feet and practicing soccer skills for pickup games on the weekend, how can you tell them that they need to re-evaluate their entire life? Wasting time is a matter of shirking responsibilities and excess more than it is a matter of what exactly you're doing. People practice all kinds of practically useless skills all the time so I don't see why a training mode in a video game is so bad by comparison. As for "it's too difficult for Riot to do given the expected gain" I would be fine with that argument if it was Riot making it. They're the ones in the best position to know given their code. But they didn't make the slightest mention of it. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn77p1 | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
lol.Did pwyff even read what it says in the riot pls post??? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 06 2015 11:35 phyvo wrote: IDK, that longer twitter post more or less clears up the matter for me. You can nitpick or be cynical about little things he says but "it's a good idea but not a priority at the moment" is a decent, if still disappointing response. obviously.Saying they can't do it properly would be a good excuse too.But they didn't. Also keep in mind that was released as an official statement from riot.I doubt that would go through without countless editing and making sure it says exactly what they want to lol. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On August 06 2015 11:35 phyvo wrote: IDK, that longer twitter post more or less clears up the matter for me. You can nitpick or be cynical about little things he says but "it's a good idea but not a priority at the moment" is a decent, if still disappointing response. I agree it's a good response / reasonable position, but is it actually an accurate representation of what actually happened? | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On August 06 2015 11:39 Gahlo wrote: Well, the "1 matchmade gangplank game for a skin" made me feel gross. Luckily my poor play didn't matter because the rest of my team was ass too. i played mine today in TB as jungle gp and got carried by chuuper's braum i learned that the barrels are hard to use for actual damage to champions | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 06 2015 11:37 TheHumanSensation wrote: I agree it's a good response / reasonable position, but is it actually an accurate representation of what actually happened? Impossible to know with certainty but my impression of Rioters is more well-meaning bumbler than slimy politician. I tend to give people the benefit of doubt though. edit: also, coop AI games count for GP skin. Play on TT and you don't have to fight as many people to pick him. | ||
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